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Congolese Music / Re: Nice acoustic piece from 1993
« on: January 16, 2018, 17:30 »

Nolstagic tune.

There is something about the acoustic guitar and a good tune.....

I’m shocked it’s this low... this means lots of African artists are making peanuts. Well if they’re even making anything, with all the dead production houses that came back to make streaming money. Now I really see why concerts and tours are vital

You are right Matebu.

For a musician, the only profitable revenue stream is live shows. At least with that the musician can get to negotiate a rate for appearance, get paid a serious deposit to mobilise and a  balance after the show.

With the current ease of pirating and casual copying of music, I am surprised if artists are depending on these revenue streams. Unless a song goes very seriously viral ( talking millions of views) there is not much to be made especially a group like the typical African group which has  a very large number of musicians and splitting the revenue makes it even worse.

Hence why the lack of shows in Europe has taken a serious toll on the groups.


The Victoria Elleison Generique sounds very Good!

Clearly the team is maintaining the standards.

I Like it....

Many bands today couldn't play with this expertise and technical perfectness. I love how the chorus sounds, these people were very good singers.

You are Right Bencuri:

You will have to travel a bit to get a group that can perform or compose like this nowadays.
So much of today's music is mabanga and  little of lyrics with any kind of message.
Also the group mixing horns, guitar and vocals to such effect is rare.

Consider this Hit - Mimba to illustrate my point :

Happy New Year 2018 - Hope to dig up some classics in the new year...


There are some classics from Zairean Musicians that get the old bones creaking when they are played today.
The hits below managed to create Christmass cheer in Nairobi and East Africa in the 70's.

The First one in the list is by the Father of Zairean Music in East Africa.

Baba Gaston ( Ilunga Wa Ilunga) is arguably the most influential man who brought Zairean musicians to East Africa through his group Orchestre Baba National. Through him groups like Mangelepa, Bwambe Bwambe and others came to the Centre of Music in East Africa looking to make their mark.

This hit was done in the Mid 70's, I think 1975 (Apologies for the poor sound due to age )

Kakolele Viva Christmas:

Here is an incomplete but better copy :

The vocalist in this song I think is Kasongo Wa Kanema who came to East Africa through Baba National. Kasongo and the whole crew left Baba National to form Orchestre Bwambe Bwambe and after that group disintegrated he went on to join Super Mazembe.

I will try and get to do a feature of Ilunga Wa Ilunga later.

The second hit is by Samba Mapangala's Les Kinios called Furaha ya Christmas done in 1977 :

Orchestre Jobiso was not strictly a Zairean Band. It was an off-shoot of  Tanzania's Simba Wa Nyika. One of the three founders of simba Wa Nyika formed Jobiso after the fallout.

Enjoy !!

I am guess this was in 1980 when Samba left the band, right?

This was  Maybe 1979, but it could also be early 1980.

By the way, Samba was never in Les Mangelepa.

Samba Mapangala was  the Founder of Les Kinois until 1980 when he left to start Orchestre Virunga.

Too sum it up

Reason #1 - He is American. Since the beginning of recorded music, Americans get preferential treatment because of media outlet power.

Reason #2 - He played guitar for the all-time most popular music genre - Rock. Aka white people music

I agree fully.

Exposure is everything. Rock and Roll is the white man's music and originated in the US. In the US the little villages have their own local radio stations that promote their music. Then you have statewide Radios, and finally you have the Mega National Media. This fuels the need for recording studios to feed these stations with content ( music). Advertisers then pay to reach these markets with their merchandise.

So in America you have a musician starting on a local level, being played locally then if they are good, they are noticed, promoted and go National into the big stage. This has also led to the development of niche areas of music for example Country music in Nashville,  Soul in Motown (Georgia) and other genres of music like bluegrass, e.t.c.

A genre of music typically starts on these small roots, gains a following, and the following grows to the point where it becomes significant to attract the Mainstream National stations who then promote it to national and international prominence.

We have very little exposure for African music in such a scenario and so we are not likely to attract such attention. The Web is helping expose African and other foreign musicians to America and Europe outside the establishment I detailed above, but it will take time and consistent effort.

I know of a few Radio stations in America that dedicate some airtime to African Music, like Daudi of Ambiance Congo. Ambiance Congo broadcasts every other Sunday on WRIR 97.3 FM Richmond Virginia, USA from 3:00-5:00 PM. You can also listen to him online here:

The Growing African Diaspora community promoting tours by musicians to the US will also expose this, as will the collaborations like Fally, Dbanj and co are having with the big guns of American Pop stars.

This may give some exposure but like you noted, it is very little and it may take very long.

« on: November 27, 2017, 10:52 »

For Sebenes, please refer to the leaders of the Second Generation in the Veve clan of Bands

Orchestre Kiam :

The guitars of Lele Nsudi, Djuke and Sonora ( solo ) combined very well with Desai and Morema ( Rythm) with Kady on Bass.

Sample these Gems :

Kamiki :


Moni Afinda :

Another group known as Lipua Lipua also rocked the scene :
This group had  Vata Mombassa  and dizzy Mandjeku  among its membership :

Nouvelle Generation ( Onyango Shika Dame, Kamata - HA! ) :

another Notable hit :

This group also had  Nyboma Mwandido before he broke off to form Les Kamale. In fact Kamale was the name of one of
Lipu Lipua's hits which Nyboma adopted for his group when he left.

Kamale :

Damn, killed it ;D

Ha Ha Ha!!

Saw this around here being circulated on Whatsapp.
The caption is that this is a Mzungu farmer who has just received news of
Robert Mugabe resigning.....

Old School Music / Another one from the Archives - Stage Marshall
« on: November 20, 2017, 17:49 »

This is a recording from the Old Voice of Kenya ( Now Kenya Broadcasting Corporation)

Orchestre Les Mangelepa were ruling the airwaves :

Bwamy Wa Lumona is the bearded guitarist wizard.

Bandibanga Wa Tshilumba (KaiKai)  is the lead singer on most of the Songs

Notice the Dance and the footwork - Michael Jackson had not even gone solo and they were showing his moves...

Apologies for the poor sound quality, I think the recording was not from the original studio works. Hope you can tell the quality of the horns in those days.

« on: November 07, 2017, 05:29 »

Another Guitar from Diblo Dibala :


« on: November 07, 2017, 05:27 »

This is what was ruling the airwaves in the early nineties

The Guitar was a must - Jean Baron here :

« on: November 05, 2017, 16:11 »

Especially in the first minutes, I have recognized the voice of Awilo Longomba, but I don't know much about the guitarist Diblo Dibala why he is so popular in terms of views even though the video is not the best in quality and creativity?

The Early 90's belonged to them: Arlus Mabele and the Group Loketo

In that group Was Arlus Mabele, Diblo Dibala, Jean Baron, Sahlomon, and Awilo Longomba was their Drummer.

After some time, Diblo Dibala broke off to from Matchatcha


On Koffi and QL, Give me V12 Any time....

In my opinion this album was on teh very height of the Ndombolo craze and took the Africa music secene by storm.
On musical creativity and perfromance though, I rate V12 above this one.

Other Albums worth mention are Maggie and Faux..  (Enough I sound too old already !! )

« on: November 03, 2017, 04:44 »

Thanks Matebu.

You are right, King Kester was  one in a million.

I wonder what happened to the Victoria Dream Team Dream Band after his demise. I read a few posts about Jolly Mubialai and later saw one of the singers auditioning for Werra....

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