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Congolese Music / Re: Successful Euro Based Groups
« on: September 26, 2019, 07:00 »
Interesting thread, I feel the younger artists of the diaspora/first gens are left out of the conversation a lot. I think it's mainly because they aren't that big or diluting their musical heritage (Dadju, Maitre Gims, Franglish, etc..)
But they don't have overwhelming support from the Congolese community and aren't great marketing outside of the Francophone bubble. 

 I think artists like Clark Donovan, Les Masques (Kevany/Scotty BK) Jordy, Naza, and Ya Levis have potential if we support them. The Melting Crew awards has potential. Granted their lyricism in Lingala isn't the best, they do cater most of us first gens who appreciate the art of Sebene and Rumba.

And theeeen there's Afro-Congo... which to be honest is hard for me to get into, but I'm willing to support because I understand the need to branch out the musical styles.

I've always loved JDT's vocal in this song, for some reason it reminds of those salsa vocalists. It fits lol

Congolese Music / Re: Women in Congolese Music
« on: May 28, 2019, 08:19 »
I specifically meant Congolese female artists to be writers and producers themselves not having other men producing them/having an attachment to another band. Since you listed male musicians and writers.

Congolese Music / Re: Women in Congolese Music
« on: May 27, 2019, 22:22 »
For sure, I do agree.
 However, I don't think there's been room for Congolese female artists to be writers & producers to start with. They all have really great voices, they just lack creating a sound that fits them.  *cue an amazing producer*

Congolese Music / Re: Women in Congolese Music
« on: May 27, 2019, 17:09 »
The ones I can think of off top are
Tatiana Kruz

Sarah Kalume

Laurette La Perle

I still think Mopao is stretching the truth.
Didi is a beauty influencer/IG model. A lot of IG influencers are invited to these kind of events to promote whatever brand or artist has to sell to create some kind of buzz on social media. Even if it included a photo op.
In this case it's Rihanna clothing line.

Congolese Music / Re: RIP LUTUMBA SIMARO
« on: March 30, 2019, 08:54 »
Wow, just saw this on twitter RIP.

"They shouldn't have given y'all niggas the internet"  is specifically meant for Congolese people lol

I can't believe the two are actually being compared... I mean it's Vita Imana lol

I was born in the late 90's and I still know this song goes hard and was much more successful than Eternellement.

Why are there so many Fally purists trying to revise the rivalry between those two on social media anyways? I feel like they do the same thing between Clan Wenge vs QL.

Congolese Music / Re: Fally Ipupa- Maria PM (clip)
« on: February 22, 2019, 03:31 »

Congolese Music / Re: Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: January 30, 2019, 07:00 »
I've always wondered this.
As far as the lyricism in Congolese rumba, when the singer is taking the perspective of his own or as man vs the perspective as a woman?
Like to they go back and forth switching perspectives?
I've noticed that Franco used to sing from the perspective of a woman sometimes too.


Not sure if it's been posted but great stuff!

A sexual predator is a sexual predator, R. Kelly has been taking advantage of underaged girls for over 20 years and people have been knowing about it. This is not one of those "They are trying to put the black man down" situations.
You can't compare wealthy men to the plight of Black men in this situation because Wealthy men have unfair advantage period.

R Kelly despite his musical genius and impact, is a sack of shit who deserves to go to jail and stay there for the rest of his life.

Congolese Music / Re: Interesting band from Congo
« on: January 03, 2019, 22:14 »
I think don't think issue is whether or not Congolese music is limited, the problem is if other genres are equally promoted and if Congolese people are receptive to it.

Rumba and Ndombolo has saturated/monopolized the Congolese music industry for decades, so other genres are going to fall under the radar if we allow it to.

Congolese Music / Re: This song was excellent.
« on: December 30, 2018, 20:22 »

I don't think so because I see nobody in Werra's, JB's, Fally's or Ferre's who has a big influence like Alain Mpela, Fally Ipupa, Ferre Gola, Heritier, etc. used to have in their former bands. So I see still the same artists dominate until 2023. Our donors don't like to support unknown artists.

Expect Inoss B. who is supported by donors coming from Eastern Congo, Alesh and Gaz Fabulous, etc. have nobody. They always give their tracks for some money or Nkoy-beer to djs and if they are lucky they  get some fame. They don't benefit of their succes.  Anita Mwarabu who used to sing with F-Victeam sung not a long time ago a song with Mbilia Bel, dedicated to Docteur Jeff Ndjadi Leteta, which made her buy a jeep and start her own business in Kinshasa about beauty-products.

The music those djs are making are inspired from Nigerian music and they often samply those hits and put their own lyrics on. They don't use Congolese music anymore.

I think that we will get only rubbish songwriters, because they were raised the last 10 years with the bedroom music of B.E.K., Abacadabra, A2BM, QEDJ, Boite Noire, etc. Also the mentality of people living in Kinshasa is totally different. You have only to look at videos they upload on facebook who are mostly only about sex or insulting parents, etc. Don't you see how people are doing polemic now by insulting wife, familymembers, etc. I think that its to late. Or something must to create an diaspora-artist who create a revolution and change the things in Kinshasa.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
So once we're in 2023, is there a possibility of new bands coming or are the Congolese DJs doing Nigerian music becoming bigger? Will the DJs take the music and change it into something else like the first generations did with Cuban Rumba?

 I really don't like the idea that we're losing our originality in arrangements, melodies and vocals in the way we do it and I believe that Ndombolo can evolve into something new only if we had the money to do so. There so much talent in Kin but there isn't a solid foundation as well as the donors don't want to give the new kids a chance.

Are Fally and Ferre going to manipulate Gaz Mawete and Innoss'B like Koffi and Wemba did with the Wenge generation/Franco and Tabu Ley with Wemba?   


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