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Messages - Mfumu Vata

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We always compare albums that had succes. So I thought why not compare albums that didn't got alot of attention.




I go for Suzuki's Décompte Finale

Suzuki and Aimelia should more performing their own songs instead of performing with songs of other leaders and their former bosses.

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Yeah. Pathy Bass also played rhythm. He played rhythm on the generique of Volte Face. In Congolese music all bass-players and lead guitarist know how to play rhythm. They know it because its the base. Before learning bass or lead, they are forced to master the rhythm guitar first.


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Congolese Music / Re: I DIDN'T KNOW KIBENS MOTHER PASSED AWAY
« on: February 05, 2023, 00:45 »
Rest in Peace

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Clovis joined Quartier Latin Integral and participated to the Volte EP playing bass on the generique and playing rhythm on Cessez Le Feu. About Mustapha I don’t know

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Congolese Music / Re: Collégien Zola & Mbuta Likasu
« on: February 02, 2023, 10:04 »
Marie Paul didn’t lake vision. It’s because the trips to Kinshasa that people respected El Paris. His name became strong while people quickly forgot about Ricoco who until this day regret about it. The problem was just about El Paris not being a proper band, like people thought in Kinshasa. Some living in Paris, others in Belgium, some in other French cities. Maradona, Dello Bass and Collegien were surprised when coming from Kinshasa in Paris. Because El Paris had crazy succes in Kinshasa and they thought that they would perform often when coming France only to discover that the band didn’t exist in reality and just being like a nzong-nzong. This made Collegien join Nouvelle Generation. Maradona sometimes performing with Victoria Eleison and Viva la Musica who didn’t had a proper drummer anymore. Dello Bass performing with soukous artists and sometimes with Tabu Ley. It’s only after like 1,5 year that they reunited quickly to rehearse and prepare the second trip which had bad consequences.

Manda Chante had the same thing like Maradona and co when arriving in France after that Kongolo Mobutu paid a ticket for him to arrive in France. He was fed up to wait for months and joined Viva la Musica, only to return when Kongolo heard about Viva la Musica to preparing a show at LSC to present him as a new member while El Paris was preparing a new trip to Kinshasa.

The problem with El Paris was that they hadn’t papers. It were one of the reasons why Aime Buanga and Ricoco refused to go to Kinshasa with them although Kongolo doing his best to reconcile them with Marie Paul’s camp and perform together for some concerts and his sister’s wedding. Ricoco ended up accepting but changed his mind on last minute. Marie Paul and co took the risk to go to Kinshasa and managed to come back to Europe, because Kongolo made them travel to Europe like his family members and those working at the airport not controlling the passports, just stamp those 20+ passeports thinking that they were all part of the presidential family. In 1993, they had bad luck because Kongolo Mobutu took all their passports after a conflict,  threw them out his brother’s villa (late Konga Mobutu) and all problems starting from then.

The musicians of El Paris could have ended up like those of Academia, if they returned back to Kinshasa.El Paris was killed when coming back in 2000 after 7 years. The first concert at LSC being mpiaka and the next one following week at Theatre Marie Bell also. It ruined them and all concerts during the tour flopping. They had two options, returning quickly back to Kinshasa where they a big fanbase at that era or stay in Europe. The majority (the band, influential donors and fans) wanted El Paris to go back, but Marie Paul preferred to stay, knowing that it may be difficult to get visa’s again for a next tour and prepare a new album (Eboulement Total) to return back to Kinshasa with fire. Musicians started to lose patience leaving the band one by one life started to become hard for them, late Jean Pierre Saah not wanting to sign him anymore, etc.



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Congolese Music / Coming Soon; Didi Stone & Ado Yuhe
« on: February 01, 2023, 21:38 »


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Is it possible to have succes in the Congolese music-scene for +10 years without doing nkisi or having pacts ? Because all those who lasted atleast 5 years being on the top all being rumored to have done bad stuff.

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I dont know any that was part of the team b. I only discovered that singer Ladi Miyembe and solist Champion Vualu "Dracula" (who used to play with Aime Buanga and Pierette Adams) were part of it through their interviews. It were only Assow Ngolé and Junior Kingombe who finally made it to the first team because of some departures, their patience and also their hard work.

Quartier Latin already complete there was no musician needed, just a proper keyboard player (gires synthe was limited) and 1 or 2 tenorists. Why add musicians when you already a dream team with guys like Titina, Ramazani, Binda Bass, Bouro Mpela, Fofo le Collegien, Brigade, Soleil Wanga, Fally Ipupa, Kerozène, etc.

Mirage Supersonic participated to Danger de Mort. Its just that he ran away during the tour and Koffi then ending up by deleting his vocals and replacing it by Bouro Mpela who  rejoined Quartier Latin for the 3th time, like the way he did with vocals of Mustapha Nkori in Force de Frappe the moment Montana Kamenga joined. I don't understand musicians why running away while the tour isn't finished yet.

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Congolese Music / Re: BALLE DE MATCH VIDEOS
« on: February 01, 2023, 21:20 »
So the song 50 Ans will not get a videoclip ?

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Because she joined Wenge 4x4 as a dancer and not a singer and Wenge 4x4 isn't Anti Choc of Bozi where female singers get promoted. Wenge 4x4 is a band of men, a good example is that they had a team of 6 male dancers. In Quartier Latin where she's used to sing and doing the role of Deese Mukangi in concerts when promoting Koweit Rive Gauche, she ended up by becoming a dancer because of her liking it more than singing and her height being to small to stand next to men. If Wenge 4x4 ended up by promoting female singers they would end up like Anti Choc. Until this day many people blame Bozi for having promoted female singers instead of male and see it like that of the reason that slowed his succes down and being to late when trying to make a comeback

Why Congolese people are so against having female.singers as main singers? It isn't the same level but I am seeing the same thing with Cindy, yes she is annoying but she isn't a bad singer at all yet for a lot of people she is the cause of every QL Problem

I think because the band will not have the same power anymore like first there are to much female singers or all focus being on one female singer next to the bandleader, unless their role being minimal like Asta Paola and Tina in Viva la Musica and those women who used to sing for Emeneya in the Nzinzi and Mokosa-era 1987-1991 (late Théthé Monganga, Diatezua Denise and the otherone)

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Congolese music since its existence barely promote female singers. Female singers would mostly work in the studio as background singer, doing gospel music. Because they already know that bands would not recruit them, except if the bandleader himself is looking for two or three. 

 V12 compared to Noblesse Oblige and Koweit Rive Gauche didn't had Deese Mukangi as guest to do some chorus or small vocals. They didn't need a woman anymore to do that role . Magie itself didn't had women involved in the chorus. Koffi Olomidé in reality didn't need Scola Miel. It was her who went towards Koffi after a conflict with Bozi. The same Scola became dissapointed because of not getting enough space in her opinion, not knowing that Koffi just accepted her to do Deese's role in concerts and Quartier Latin not being like Viva, Anti Choc where singers get alot of space but everything mostly being focused on Koffi.
Quartier Latin's team was to strong to have female singers in it. It was already hard for male singers that got recruited to get into the team of Babia, Eric Tutsi, Willy Bula, Modogo, Suzuki,.. all big singers. Many singers got unnoticed because of not getting proper chance. Guys like Pompom Miyake, Thomas Lokofe were part of Quartier Latin at that time and left because of not getting any space.


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He lives in Belgium. I saw last week on tiktok that he was in the studio with Alain Makaba to correct the basslines of Wenge Musica's concert at Stade des Martyrs.

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Because she joined Wenge 4x4 as a dancer and not a singer and Wenge 4x4 isn't Anti Choc of Bozi where female singers get promoted. Wenge 4x4 is a band of men, a good example is that they had a team of 6 male dancers. In Quartier Latin where she's used to sing and doing the role of Deese Mukangi in concerts when promoting Koweit Rive Gauche, she ended up by becoming a dancer because of her liking it more than singing and her height being to small to stand next to men. If Wenge 4x4 ended up by promoting female singers they would end up like Anti Choc. Until this day many people blame Bozi for having promoted female singers instead of male and see it like that of the reason that slowed his succes down and being to late when trying to make a comeback

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There was only one female singer. It was Nana Sukali who was also their dancer at the same time. Before joining Wenge 4x4 as dancer in 1993, she used to dance and sing for Quartier Latin. She was the female singer in Quartier Latin's album Pas de Faux Pas, doing Deese Mukangi's role who used to sing in Koffi's album Koweit Rive Gauche.

About their presence you must ask it Makaba,  he was the one who made the concept/arrangement/composition of the song.

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