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 i feel for gesac lol two times he has done that and nothing he has done in solo career has been succesful

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Congolese Music / Re: CELEO ATTACKS KOFFI AND FALLY
« on: Today at 19:14 »
by the way on the marius thing,if people can bring back some memories,that has always been marius secret weapon to make some buzz when he is starting to be forgotten,fans can argue that it was prepared and so on,but history proves a lot of times in his career marius did that trick of bringing the rival's name a lot then act like he wants to go to next question while having teased artist enough to drop a bomb,you'll notice that curiously  he was "deciding who fally can be friends with" starting with the three guys fally is known for having beef with ferre fabregas heritier
i remember an interview of him with kester who did not want to talk about wemba and koffi but marius managed to get him saying stuff against them or the interview of werra vs koffi at the time shaggy came to kin and many many other examples
even with ferre himself marius did that trick in interview

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Congolese Music / Re: CELEO ATTACKS KOFFI AND FALLY
« on: Today at 15:24 »
This irrelevant guy again smh i bet on a few months he'll turn around and attack ferre I said this was gonna happen that former MM guys and former QL guys would jump in insaid it

So he’s irrelevant for speaking the truth about a weak minded so called man Koffi likes to think of himself...leave it out mate
I'm not saying he didn't speak the truth he's right in what he's saying but I don't trust him cause like I said he's very capable of switching sides you get me?

exactly and he is starting to build his image on those situations and thats bloody unfair to himself with the talent he has

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Congolese Music / Re: CELEO ATTACKS KOFFI AND FALLY
« on: Today at 13:20 »
honestly i could not care less which camp wins or whatever fans like to consider the issue of those silly beefs but one thing got me very very shocked is how merveille rambo said that nicodem falled out with ferre because ferre found out that nicodem did with other guys a gangbang on ma marie makiese
this is way way way over the top and beyond polemic,but strangely enough i have never seen any of the guys of the camp of koffi under custody

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Congolese Music / CELEO ATTACKS KOFFI AND FALLY
« on: Today at 12:22 »


He says all former maison mere guys should be behind ferre,koffi is a coward for taking ferre to court while himself sends merveille to insult people including himself celeo and fally who try to replicate behavior of american artists must know they are oversensitive guys they know polemic include a lot of things and they accept it like that while koffi and fally like to tease but  get sensitive when attacked
and if koffi has balls he should come to europe and deal with justice and he is ready if koffi will send people to beat him like he did several times in his rivalries he'll show koffi he is a true man

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Congolese Music / Re: Is it true that they arrested Ferre Gola ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 19:48 »
i saw that angelucentral posted proudly that ferre would spend the night under custody and the rest tomorrow(i guess if true they try to get a photo of him to humiliate him like in previous cases of ken makizembe,mosaka,sankara..."

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if you listen for example to yanki in his lives he always insisted several times that werra wanted to prove some of the musicians who think they are the ones who are making werra's career so he sang that much to remind them that its his group
and ever since heritier's last days in maison mere there was always a theory of conspiracy to create a rebel group also so werra postponed the original project of solo album which was arche de noe to do the 7 jours one and surprise musicians who thouht they'd fool him once again in doing 14 vocals or so each on album and leave on that hype

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Congolese Music / Re: Is it true that they arrested Ferre Gola ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 19:04 »
not arrested (surely since its ferre) but he was under police custody on koffi's complaint it seems and i hear they plan some action against carine aswell

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exactly werra had that "plan b" for ages  although not in the folklore format that one day  when he sees musicians are messing with him too much he'll start a much more self centered solo career it all started from les marquis and the remaining members  days

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they were against  werra going into a way which will make him a dominant lead singer,just somehow like a whole bunch left when werra did 7 jours because they did not have their usual number of vocals,mabanga and so on

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congrats to them, its an award  from where never heard about it

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Congolese Music / MUTUASHI IS SOOO SWEET
« on: November 20, 2017, 18:22 »


for those who do not know this woman monik tenday she was among the teachers of the generation of the likes of mirage,cindy,olivier tshimanga,patou solo and co at INA,she sings,plays instruments and is also an arranger

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He starts interview about the sad situation in libya saying its a huge shame that in 2017 there are still cases of slavery and as a christian he hopes that everybody responsible of that including "black" african authorities will pay the price one day if they are one of the reasons behind such a drama
 then he talks about his book revealing that he has finished it after 10 months of writing and he presented it to editors and he is lucky to have had the best editor of france who was interested so he signed with them and he will wait for the release
 he says he has restarted studio sessions for next album and he will first release the tribute song to papa wemba which unlike other tributes is not a sad song because he wanted the tribute to be something people can relate to everyday and not just when anniversary arrives so he mixed one of the songs he gave to papa wemba and the rhythm of a papa wemba songs but with his own lyrics and he tried to replicate papa wemba voice at times in the song, he will release also a rumba in december to prove he can also do good rumbas as a lot of people think he is a guy who is only good on generiques but talking about generiques he says they will have 3 generiques for the first time and as usual people will appreciate
he said he owes his career to papa wemba because thanks to him he could learn a lot of things before becoming a musician as papa wemba was even taking him sometimes into his own deal negotiations and he learned while silently observing what was going on
he learned studio experience and thanks to his time with papa wemba he also learned leadership which required him to fight against his shyness ...
when he came back from europe he went at papa wemba's grave to pay tribute but insist he did not talk or ask for power or whatever because talking to dead people is nothing short of sorcery
 he is  asked whether it would be a good idea to bring "maisha park" reunions back and he says from his personal experience its a bad thing because some musicians can salute you and act like you have made peace but still attack you late in the night as their grudge is far from over and he reveals you could even see some musicians jealous of each other over cellphones or clothes or  some did it on purpose to arrive at reunion hide somewhere and be in touch with somebody who told them who has arrived and  when they heard everybody had arrived they'd then arrive the last to feel more powerful than the other ones
so all in all a lot of childish things happened at those reunions so he does not want to hear about it anymore but individually he has good relationship with most musicians and he says the day before interview  he was in touch with ferre on phone and franck asks him what does he think about the beef between ferre and koffi and he first jokes that he is delighted with it because somehow people like it and  they find it boring when everybody is friends and he says somehow polemic over houses or cars helped a lot of musicians to work hard to make sure they can cope with rivals on that field and he says his pal koffi has one "flaw" which is that he hides a lot of stuff and pops up with it when its time for polemic and gives his own example on how the day after his olympia show( and same later at zenith) koffi sent babia with similar gold outfit to attack him and franck hints that ferre disrespected koffi and he says if somebody attacks you and you reply its a "draw" as both parts are guilty and he asks whether he is supporting ferre and he says that beef started when he was not even back in kinshasa yet so he just watched it after and more seriously adds that he advised ferre to slow down a bit and be careful with women and money given how easily musicians go spiritual when they are not satisfied with the answer they gave you
franck asks him about when he said he'd never talk to koffi again but they called and talked to each other recently at their dad's funerals and he says he was misunderstood he meant that it was very very difficult to get them into the same relationship that in maisha park days (because of what happened on spiritual level) where it even happened that both spent a night at the other's house but he would never wish anything bad to koffi and if he saw koffi's children in trouble somewhere he'd step in and he hinted that he knew the real reason behind ferre's anger and that its much more serious than what ferre talked about but  he appreciated how out of respect for koffi ferre did not reveal it but says it might be revealed at some point if both camps do not calm down
and he regretted how koffi replied to ferre's video,for him as the legend he is and the older one he'd have set an example of maturity in ignoring ferre's video,he should know he is mopao one of the greatest artist we ever had and a very respected man but unfortunately  koffi still chooses to follow his ego and fight with people  he should not be fighting with because he hates not having the last word while he is well above that level for all he has done in his career
and frank jumps on that to ask what he thinks of people saying he is a koffi copycat and he answers that people will never give him due respect on that topic because koffi was already a star when he was still helping him behind the scenes so people believe the most popular person can only be the one who was copied but he believes even if its at 1 per cent he had some impact on koffi's music because he brought his style into koffi's  and compares his situation with late papa wemba  and jules masua who if you turned when they were talking would get you confused as they talked the same way but clearly says he'll never ever pretend he made koffi and wemba they were massive stars and would have still been massive star with or without him
he says he is not in any of the alleged camps of polemic(supposedly jb ferre heritier vs werra fally koffi) but he has good individual relationship with them
he briefly talks about europe based artists saying he regrets that they do nothing to help them break the ban they suffer from while they perform in total freedom
he is asked if like werra koffi and other artists he can say he has alumni who can defend his name in solo career he says it was about to happen but those guys (joss gabanna gessac) betrayed him and reveals while he was recently in europe one of them was caught by  guys in the street where him wazekwa leaves burying kindoki stuff in front of wazekwa's house and he says he did nothing to that stuff gesac buried(this is the second time gesac does it before releasing something) because he says to God " God i can only deal with natural problems,all what happens in supernatural i trust you to deal with them"and jokes that  papa wemba used to tell him "we other artists consider you like a pastor"
he finishes interview with legend that he had dead bodies in his car once and reveals that he came back to kin and at airport friends were telling him that somebody had been caught in that situation and he was surprised to hear few days after how the rumour started on his name and wonders if he took the alleged dead bodies from the plane since all the talk started from airport when back to perform at fikin and he adds that  if there are musicians who do that he has nothing to envy them since  without that he has comfortable life like them and in terms of money he'd rather respect a guy like dikembe mutombo who build one of the best african hospitals in our country than musicians politicians  and so on who boast about their wealth and do nothing special of common use
and that there is too much people who like to boast they are the first who did this or that in DRC while he still sees none of them on Guiness book so we should learn to be more humble  which he tries to remain everyday



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Congolese Music / Re: What did Fabregas say in this interview
« on: November 20, 2017, 10:31 »
in short he says he is the same guy that years ago but  people are jealous of him so they try to portray him as a bad guy and that he is  against polemic he is peaceful guy who just wants to talk about music but still in the same interview threw shots at koffi,fally,ferre,carine mokonzi,ibrator,robinio then still mentioned he is a fan of koffi ,fally and co
he is basically saying things and its opposite minutes after which is why many of the comments are saying he is the most hypocritical of our artists

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