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What made those 5eme Generation artists Fally Ipupa, Ferre Gola, Bill Clinton and Didier Lacoste (who was famous back in 2010) not being present during those 2011 presidential campaign ? Because they are close to those policitians of PPRD and some even to their daughters. Were they blocked by their elders, who didn't what to share money ? (I heard that Manda Chante and some others weren't even paid). Or weren't they contacted ? They weren't also present in that Bomoko-association in 2013-14 (where they excluded Koffi), which was like Maisha Parc-2. They were lucky on the other side that they didn't participate to that, because if they participated then they would have a tought life for 2 years long in Europe, like Werrason, Reddy, etc. who were running for their lives, dressing like women to not be recongnized. Compared to 2006 when JB Mpiana & Felix Wazekwa also supported JP Bemba, nobody from those bandleaders supported Etienne Tshisekedi in 2011.

It would be fair if they were allowed by the combattans to perform in Europe and espcially Marie Paul who risked his life by supporting Etienne Tshisekedi. Being jailed by ANR (congelese secret-service) and blocked in Kinshasa. Bill Clinton went to Brazzaville with his house in Kinshasa being attacked by kuluna's who were under PPRD-control with Francis Kalombo controlling it (who now pro-Katumbi) after rumors being speard that he sung for Tshisekedi. Some combattans (mostly youngsters) agreed with artists who didn't support Kabila performing in Europe. But the majority were against . This because alot were victims of scam from musicians for the ngulu-business, some being victims of musicians who staying in their house during tours making their women/daughters pregnant to get European-papers or just by accident, some of them being ex'drugdealers, fraudsters who went broke, others being hurt how Werrason insulted them they work in the construction and some being women/girls who were dumped by those musicians after a love-affair (some being left alone with the kids without financial suppport).

 I found it crazy how Fally Ipupa & Ferre Gola returned in Kinshasa without problem giving soldout-vip concerts in Kinshasa and also Bill Clinton Kalonji who spend months in Brazzaville. With him then mentioning Papy Tamba (member of PPRD) alot.

The true behind of all this behind the scene was to prepare them slowly for the presidential campaign of Joseph Kabila who wasn't really popular in Kinshasa, Equateur, Bandundu, the two Kasai's and Bas Congo. Only the east of the country. So he wanted their support for his presidential campaign with them getting modern studio's, real fight against piracy and a proper copyright society who would pay those royalties correcly like SACEM, SABAM,etc. in return. But the musicians themselves messed it up during the second meeting with Joseph Kabila, which was meant to talk about that. Only for 4 leaders (Koffi, JB, Wemba and Werrason) and Tshala Muana of all musicians invited that day were allowed to talk with Joseph Kabila. But when they came instead to talk about those projects they started to talk about their own business saying that they need some money to finish those business with Jospeh Kabila seeing that they are clowns. Giving them then 15.000 dollars to share between themselves. When other musicians heard that story it created havoc and the press and Congolese music-scene being divided and alot of musicians deciding to leave Maisha Parc. With Emeneya doing that famous interview with journalist Francis Kakonde to talk about that problem and Koffi Olomide & Wemba denieying it and later on in interviews mocking Emeneya that he's finished, jealous and a comedian.

 It became worser when Ferre joined Quartier Latin which brought the polemic between Werrason & Koffi Olomide back and the FIKIN-affaire of Werrason and JB Mpiana which brought tribalism back with the press and Congolese music-scene being more divided with people of Kasai being behind JB Mpiana, Papa Wemba, Tshala Muana, Koffi Olomide who were pro-Maisha Parc and people of Bandundu & Bas Congo being behind Emeneya, Werrason, Karmapa, Shakakongo who were anti-Maisha Parc. But people forget it quickly during the elections of JP Bemba against Joseph Kabila.

This all created anger in the Congolese diaspora in Brussels & London against musicians, where a big part was already anti-Kabila since day 1 when he became president in 2001. Especially against Werrason, which was because of the 'Massacre Fikin 2005-dvd". It made people think that Werrason was close to PPRD and Kabila's regime. They didn't also like how all those bandleaders were present at Kabila's wedding with Olive Lembe. With those combattans in Brussels promising that all those musicians who were present wouldn't perform anymore in the Schengen-area. With then the combattans-campaign starting in 2006 in London with JB Mpiana's concerts in London being sabotated. Then in November 2006 Werrason's double concerts at Dock Eiffel & Dock Haussman were cancelled after that combattans saboted it. Werrason didn't give up and performed in Brussels with help of the police, but it was in an empty musichall. After that he saw that he had to talk with them and they reconciled with him performing at Elysee Montmarte and all musicians allowed who participated to Kabila's presidential campaign being allowed to perform in the Schengen-area. But in London they didn't change their opinion towards musicians and beating politicians like Manda Chante very hard and getting a "mutakalisation". Koffi Olomide tried to perform in 2007 there, but those combattans blocked his concerts with him running away. With his rivals in Kinshasa being happy the way they blocked his concerts and supporting those combattans behind the scene.He tried to return in 2008 but it didn't work.

I remember Zacharie Bababaswe not being happy with this all. Screeming on tv "polemique ekozala !!!!, etc" and saying that it was hypocrisy (which was for a part true).

Then after 5 or 10 years a band will become famous with that style and whites claiming that they created it.

Yeah Koffi was the master at doing that

I hated how he barely included his atalaku in clips
Yeah you're right, I mean Magie bivens was in nearly all the clips.. v12 same thing... ultimatum somono was in all of them except for mboshi who made I think 2 or 3 appearances... same with Loi.... attentat CNN appeared a little bit.... force de frappe nothing, effrakata... was a joke kerozene and brigade barely appeared only for like a couple of seconds in the generique and kerozene in ravisse.... affaire d'edat yeah a couple of clips and then bord ezanga kombo just two clip appearances.

I'm not a fan of when someone's vocals is in the song but they're not in the clip especially when that person is still in the group for example the first part of attentat clips pissed me and a lot of people off because koffi didn't record the singers in clips of victoire and malanda ngombe he should've just recorded the clips in kin

Same for Danger de Mort & Monde Arabe.

All clips of Attentat vol. 1-VHS (except Si Si Si & Boda Bodack) were recorded in Kin. I found it also strange why he didn’t film his singers during those vocals. It looks like he wanted just to show to people his livingroom, his new tv and the part of the kitchen. He made that fault up on the Mokonzi-VHS filming them all on Cameleon, Nul n’est Parfait, Kamutshima & Number One with Soleil & Spino who were in Kinshasa. It would have been intressting if he presented all his singers & dancers on a bonus in the Attentat-vol. 1 VHS since that they were on the way to Bercy.

Yeah Koffi was the master at doing that

But he was also the only bandleader to put only the name of his band on an album cover

My favorite song is Dr F. Okemba.

Koffi Olomide was also doing the same thing on every bandalbum except Ultimatum. On Force deFrappe he didn’t even write Quartier Latin letting look it like a solo album.

Yeah his contract was already finished with Force de Frappe, but he kept extending the contract with one album. The  succes of Loi, Olympia, Zenith, Brixton Academy, Licoln Center & Bercy made American and Britsh musiclabels following him.

I remember how Koffi struggled to get a musiclabel to record Monde Arabe and him returning with nothing to Kinshasa. Which made him do the prodcution  by himself and Somina.

I was talking about the 2009 what made Koffi sued Wemba suddenly ? because they were not on speaking terms before his death. Koffi planned to diss him in 13ème Apôtre. There is a video on YouTube where they sing together in that video we can see Wemba wasn't happy at all.

What Wemba said in the first interview is 100% true. But the problem was then that Koffi started to get alot of calls from music-labels. Don't forget that Koffi Olomide & Papa Wemba were fired in 2003 from their musiclabel Next Music for those activites, but Tabu Ley who is one of the co-founders of Sono/Sonodisc-Editions Esperance/Next Music made them return, but shortly after that Next Music became bankrupt which led to them looking for other musiclabels. To prove people in the musicindustry in France and Africa and not get a bad reputation, Koffi decided to sue Wemba. In the interview with 33 Tshitenge he exaggerated a little how the situation was. Shortly after that they reconciled with Wemba again, but their relation wasn't the same anymore and after that more things happened behind the scenes, which made Wemba say that he would never forgive Koffi.

I was talking about the 2009 what made Koffi sued Wemba suddenly ? because they were not on speaking terms before his death. Koffi planned to diss him in 13ème Apôtre. There is a video on YouTube where they sing together in that video we can see Wemba wasn't happy at all.

Congolese Music / Re: Was Ferre Gola serious here ?
« on: June 17, 2018, 19:00 »
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They asked him about a FIFA  worldcup final not a friendly match

Oh so Papa Wemba and Adolphe Dominguez were guests. What ressurfaces the beef between Koffi and Papa Wemba because Koffi tried to send him in jail right ? I don't know when it was.

It was Wemba’s own fault that he was arrested, because he started to be “lokoso” with that Ngulu-business with the French police starting an investigation from 2001 after that he brought more than 200 peoples to Europe. During his personal trips he was also bringing people claiming that they were musicians of his worldmusic-band Molokai.

Koffi & Wemba already reconcilated in 2001 and they had to perform at Zenith in 2003. Koffi was the only artist who sent him a letter when he was in jail, this while alot who  claimed that he was their idol forgot him even his journalists. But when he came out jail his staff started to say bad stuff about Koffi which made him ask questions. Nevertheless they were very close and became more closer when they formed Maisha Parc, visiting each other alot in Paris & Kinshasa and talking about the moments of the 80’s & 90’s giving each other shout-outs in albums. But things went wrong in 2009 when Koffi sued Wemba and Wemba being almost sended to jail.

Oh so Papa Wemba and Adolphe Dominguez were guests. What ressurfaces the beef between Koffi and Papa Wemba because Koffi tried to send him in jail right ? I don't know when it was.

It’s an extrait of Koffi concert af Grand Hotel when he performed to present his solo album Monde Arabe with him inviting Emeneya, Papa Wemba, JB Mpiana, Bozi Boziana, Adolphe Dominguez and Marie Paul.

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