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2003 was a very diffcult year for him. yeah, I remember him getting invited for shows in Guinee Conakry, Niger and Angola, who were a huge succes getting received by the presidents of those countries and giving also private shows for them. Mbuta Kis made a similair interview in the autumn of 2003 attacking then Koffi Olomide for blocking them and claiming that he was reponsible for Zaiko being blocked for 3 years in Kinshasa. They were then claiming that the embassady of Belgium gave them visa's, but they didn't travel on the end.

kiekiekie Sankara made me laugh when said that. He also called JB Mpiana "wiskey JB" and that they had to pay Zaiko money. Since that they were making plagiarism of Zaiko. But he was a little bit right. Because that animation of "aza muana congo", which Genta did in Bongolowayi on end is a derived from an animation Zaiko did back in 1997. In the song of Betu Bayaya, but it was a not a succes.




I tought that JB Mpiana was making a big comeback, when the dance Mpunda started to be a big succes announcing Soyons Serieux and Chemin de Fer. I guess that the combattans-affaire in 2011 made him disinterest more in music.

I think that JB Mpiana's situation would a little bit different if Primus didn't interrup his tour in 2002. Because they were then already recording Anti-Terro, which was meant for the PPU. With the release of album being scheduled for November 2002. But they were forced to interrup the tour for summer-concerts (FIKIN, kermesse de Stade des Martyrs, etc.), 24 communes de Kinshasa and a big tour in Congo. Primus and Skol disturbed the Congolese music by interrputing tours and forcing them to record singles/EP's, while they were concentrated on recording their albums. All that because of the succes of Tindika Lokito and Pelisa Nguasuma.I remember Koffi being forced by Skol to interrup his tour in 2006 and being imposed to bring with him Fally Ipupa & Ferre Gola for some concerts in Kinshasa. Werrason had the same situation in 2010. He had to stop his activities in Europe 6 months longs. They interrupted his tour and the recording of Malewa Suite et Fin for a big tour in Congo, concerts in Kinshasa and summer-activities and imposed him also to record a single (Diatabawu) for them. Which made Malewa getting delayed, while it was scheduled for December 2010.

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that cameraman around 1 35 in the old quartier latin vid :D :D :D

kiekiekiekie.

What made always made laughs is the reaction of the spectators during Papa Wemba's Zenith of 2000. When those Fioti Fioti's are dancing to Analengo. I wonder what their wives taught about that, after seeing that image hahahaha from 6:14 min.




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Congolese Music / Re: FOLK SONGS ARE FANTASTIC
« on: February 24, 2018, 21:19 »
Many people think that Sam Tshintu sung on Magie. But he didn't sing. It was Aladji HC who did all those vocals, while many people think that they are of Sam. The same Aladji sung on Pas de Faux Pas he can hear him on Ma Fille. Koffi gave Sam just the opportunity to put a song in Quartier Latin, because he had alot of respect for him, since that he was the president of Flash Musica. Flash Musica is the band where Suzuki, Modogo, Blanchard Miantezolo, Lebou Kabuya and Willy Bula came from. Sam worked very hard to get a place in Quartier Latin, which he finally got in Ultimatum.

Really ?? But in the Magie's booklet he is credited among the musicians who participated in the album

Sam himself said that 5 or 4 years ago. That he didn't had any vocal in Magie and he didn't participate in the studio. But only gave a song and gavr Beevans some animations.

Speaking of Beevans did Koffi let him animate Magie alone to get closer to Wenge sound ? Instead of letting the duo Beevans-Jean-Louis Mazungidi. Even if we can hear Mazungidi in the generique.

It could be. It's crazy how he dissapeard so quickly after V12. He hadn't the inspiration anymore to compete against Somono Dolce and the arrival of Mboshi made his situation worser.  While in the beginning he was mocking Somono, when he came back from Magie. Insulting him and he didn't want to talk to him, since that he didn't came from Europe.

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@mvulusi Zorro has acted like an internet journalist before YouTube. I'm convinced he has some mental issues. Sad as it was, I guess he had Kakol's directed beating coming his way.

The only decent work I can remember from him is his interview with Didier Masela. People don't respect him like his esteemed colleague, Cesar Ngadi.

Side note, damn Lokassa ya Mbongo has aged. I didn't recognize him at first. The most prolific rhymist

A guy called Patrick Igo who is making alot of buzz on Facebook admitted it and dissapeard for some weeks on internet. Grace Mbizi was a normal person when she was working with Drigombaki along with Anelka ba Faussette. But she became suddenly crazy when she starting to work with Congomikili, getting close to those sapeurs (Tresor Ngando, Nickens Bayaka, Akim Prince de Laussane, etc.).

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I don't know. I only that he invited guitarists like Yves Ndjock, Saladin Feirrera & Rigo Star for those crossover songs. I think that it is Rigo Star. Because he already played those Spanish guitars in Coucou and Monopole. Attentat was Rigo's last album with Koffi.

Attentat has better rumba's than those of Sanction. Ask people if they can sing you rumba's of Sanction from the beginning till the end. Many people doesn't even remember the songs. While Non Assistance & Sans Anestshie are now considered as classics. I remember those Loi & Attentat days, when he was teasing people with Non Assistance.

It took Koffi alot of time to convice people with Attentat, because many buyed at that time "version radio". It made people doubting if that gold record received at Bercy was real. But after 3 months people started to like it. But till this day you got people who don't like Attentat.

I like the way how some songs were recorded in live. (Victoire, Malanda Ngombe, Number One, Nul n'est Parfait and the generic). Because the all his album have a studio-sound with some sebenes and even generics being copypast. It always amaze me how they recorded the sebenes of Loi and the generic on the last minute. Loi was already finished, since that they recorded at that same moment with Ultimatum. But the succes of Feux de L'Amour made Koffi bring Champion, Do Akongo, Felly Tyson, Lebou Kabuya, Pathy Bass, Somono and Mboshi quickly to France in Novembre 1997. In order to rework the sebenes they recorded, inviting also Ikonola, who was a mbonda-player in Viva La Musica. With Mboshi animating some animations of Wenge, which they never animated in concerts of Quartier Latin hahahaha (Bayeba te, somo and that of La Reference). Tabu Ley was right about Koffi wanting to copying Wenge hahaha. Waiting their albums, while that of him already finished and then putting their cries in his album. Affaire d'Etat is the only album with not a Clan Wenge crie from the 1992-2006 period. Maybe it was better for him to use some Maison Mere cries in Affaire d'Etat (Koyimbi-Ko), like the way they used alot of cries from Affaire Tonya Tonya in Effrakata.

Spinoff groups makes those mistakes of recruiting alot musicians and girldancers. Because they want to prove their ex'bosses. But they forget that their ex'bosses had already 20 years or 10 years experience as solo artist, alot of donors behind and a good amount of money. Which made it possible to pay some keymembers. While they have nothing and just are in the beginning of the game. The thing about returning to Kinshasa is to prove that they are a big band. But those things always creates problems, we saw that with Wenge Aile Paris & Les Marquis. The reasons of spinoff groups splitting quickly is that the members were already known in their previous band. So when they create a spinnoff leadership wars appears. While bands who coming from nowwhere last long, because their objective is to break trought in the Congolese musicscene. Which made them last a least 5 years with from then leaderships war starting. We saw that with Zaiko, Wenge Musica, Extra Musica, who all came from nowhere.

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Congolese Music / Re: Kaps Kapangala
« on: February 24, 2018, 08:06 »









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Congolese Music / Re: Kaps Kapangala
« on: February 24, 2018, 07:47 »
Most donors of the 90's and early '00s were drugsdealers, thiefs of clohting stores amd bank fraudsters. In the mid 90's you had a war in Kinshasa of Bana Londres against Bana Lunda. Bana Lunda were Congolese migrants who went to the Lunda province in Angola-province in search for diamonds.










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Japonais started to play bass. They recruited Patient, because they wanted a real rhythm player. But he didn't last long.

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Congolese Music / Re: FOLK SONGS ARE FANTASTIC
« on: February 24, 2018, 00:21 »
Many people think that Sam Tshintu sung on Magie. But he didn't sing. It was Aladji HC who did all those vocals, while many people think that they are of Sam. The same Aladji sung on Pas de Faux Pas he can hear him on Ma Fille. Koffi gave Sam just the opportunity to put a song in Quartier Latin, because he had alot of respect for him, since that he was the president of Flash Musica. Flash Musica is the band where Suzuki, Modogo, Blanchard Miantezolo, Lebou Kabuya and Willy Bula came from. Sam worked very hard to get a place in Quartier Latin, which he finally got in Ultimatum.

Really ?? But in the Magie's booklet he is credited among the musicians who participated in the album

Sam himself said that 5 or 4 years ago. That he didn't had any vocal in Magie and he didn't participate in the studio. But only gave a song and gavr Beevans some animations.

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Congolese Music / Re: FOLK SONGS ARE FANTASTIC
« on: February 23, 2018, 22:22 »
Many people think that Sam Tshintu sung on Magie. But he didn't sing. It was Aladji HC who did all those vocals, while many people think that they are of Sam. The same Aladji sung on Pas de Faux Pas he can hear him on Ma Fille. Koffi gave Sam just the opportunity to put a song in Quartier Latin, because he had alot of respect for him, since that he was the president of Flash Musica. Flash Musica is the band where Suzuki, Modogo, Blanchard Miantezolo, Lebou Kabuya and Willy Bula came from. Sam worked very hard to get a place in Quartier Latin, which he finally got in Ultimatum.

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@mvulusi96

That's tragic, had he been drinking and driving or joy riding at fast speeds? Definately understandable why JB Mpiana was furious!

I suppose the split was inevitable, by the time they toured in America most of the longtime Wenge Members had been unsettled (Alain Makaba left following Zenith, then Blaise Bula and Patient Kusangila).

 We may disagree, but I believe it's poetic justice that Blasie Bula got froze out the band. This was the same guy whose slick comments during the Feux De L' Amour concert with Wemba.

Not to mention that he help facilitate the split by having rehearsals at his house and demand that Werrason, Masela, and Adolphe would have to do tests to maintain their place in Wenge.

What caused that fight with Ficcare? All I know is that it was serious since he broke his foot while Ficcare broke his hand, if I'm not mistaken. Apparently he was chief of orchestra at the time, so it must have been embarrasing moment.

It's Aimelia's friend who drove.

Blaise Bula left before Alain Makaba. That show in Abidjan was his last concert, then he got suspended and was abandoned in the hospital with nobody of BCBG visiting. Which made him decided to leave BCBG and start his band and record his solo album Ponderation8. JB Mpiana wasn't happy when Blaise asked him if he could record an solo album before Abidjan.

Blaise Bula wanted to finish Werrason, because he was fes up with his bad gestion and he wasn't scared like JB to say the truth in his eyes.

Patient Kusangila last concert in BCBG that of Zenith, that was also the moment that he rejoined them. because he stayed in Europe for medical reasons. After Zenith he stayed months at home thinking about his future and then Patcho Panda contacted him to join Maison Mere.

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@mvulusi96

Thanks for the info, Burkina Faso did amazing solos on that album! That's too bad about Aimelia's fallout with JB Mpiana, what accident happened in Canada? I thought it was growing egos that made them part ways.

Aimelia was not a yes man and he was already big headed with the succes he had, espcially with the succes of the song Liberation.

Aimelia asked Miette Shegue and Patrica Bingetox if they wanted to go with him in the car to the concert. But they made then a big car-accident,which made Patricia paralyzed. This made JB Mpiana very angry. So he decided to punish him by not letting him participate in TH. So that he could humilate him in Kinshasa and punish again with a big suspension. But not particpating in TH was already to much for Aimelia, which made him decide to stay in Kinshasa against his heart.


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Congolese Music / Re: ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL SONG IN THE MAKING
« on: February 23, 2018, 18:36 »
What did you hear about him ?

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it's Burkina Faso who played lead on Jeannpy Pipina. Fi-Carre only played on Kinshasa & Walay Danico. They invited Caien Madoka to rework some parts.

Genta did tour with BCBG, but he shared room with Aimelia Lias. So didn't let him participate on the most songs of TH. Because they didn't want to let Aimelia participate to punish him for that accident in Canada. Otherwise he would do those animations he did in Papito Mbala remix. He had to put his animations on TH, when JB went to Paris with Titina, Calugi and Mpela for the mixing. But they left him behind with Burkina Faso & Fi-Carre, because they apparently preferred to bring ngulu's. Which made Genta getting problems with people who payed him money to mabanga's.

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@Matebu

CNN was a one man powerhouse on that album! He's definately hall of fame material in terms of atalakus. But I'll never forget that footage of Spino dancing, he was trying to mix ndombolo with Rhumba dancing????????????!

Good picks! Mine is 12 Balles, Moselekete, and Polémique Generale (this was one the first time I heard Roga Roga sing and he did a great job). Whomever was the arranger of Trop C'est Trop deserves much praise because the guitar work (solo, mi-solo, & rhythm) is all audible and sequenced nicely with the remaining instruments.

Roga Roga sung the first time in Confirmation.



The arranger of Trop c'est Trop is Roga Roga himself.

All albums from Nouveau Missiles until La Main Noire were arranged by Roga Roga himself assisted sometimes by Espe Bass and also Durrel Loemba (before the split).

Karen Amour, Papato & Bikissa Nga Kayembe weren't on the cd, because there no space anymore. In my opion it was better to release Trop c'est Trop as a double-cd album, like Shalai.

A big part of Attentat was recorded in South Africa, when they came for the Kora Awards 1999. Extra Musica was also present during that edition but they lost against Biso na Biso. Some parts were done in Paris, which were those crossover songs African Kings, Si Si Si and Chocolat with Philphe Guez adding some ingredients on Sans Anesthesie, Non Assistance, Tchernobyl, Boda Bodack & Kamutshima.

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