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Exactly! All it takes is something new to change the genre once again. It took Karmapa’s album to change the landscape back then. Now it has to happen again at some point. Why can’t fally or Ferre take that initiative? I just think they don’t want to take that risk and are complacent about where they are. They’re not thinking for the long term

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To be honest, he was just not that good. I’m sure he wanted to be the main solo guy after Makaba, but that wasn’t going to work. The current guy they have, though not as good as Makaba, is a lot better than this guy

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SYMPLICITY And Archos, you guys are completely spot on. I however think Archos is more correct. I think the reason why rhumba is more popular than sebene now is because they promote it waay more than they would a sebene/generique song. The rhumba wave feels more forced and artificial, and now the crowd/market has accepted it as the main standard in the genre. This all started because guys like Koffi started to force more rhumba in the albums in the mid 2000s.

SYMPLICITY, I do agree that it may be hard to go back to the generique/seben route, but what if they really tried? What if they took it seriously and released fire? Like Archos said, we haven’t seen a fire generique from Fally since Libre Parcour 2 which was almost 10 years ago. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to try in this landscape. You never know, it could change this current market.

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I thought about this the other day and after listening to Heritier’s new Chemin album, I have to say this. I really think guys like Fally or Ferre could save this genre if they really wanted to. If you know me, you know exactly where I’m going with this but hear me out.

Fally and Ferre are the ones that are at the top right now and everybody follows suit. Whatever they do, the rest of the artists and bands follow them. So right now, they both create 1 or 2 generiques, and the rest are rhumbas mostly for their albums. That’s the standard format for the last 20 years almost and albums like Droit Chemin solidified it. By the mid 2010s, it kind of changed a little bit. When Fally released power 001 in 2013. It had like 3 or 4 generiques. Then you saw artists release numerous generiques for their albums and it was a great time during that period. Even guys like werra and Koffi released a good number of generiques and even seben songs in their albums in those years.

By the time Ecole releases in 2018, the format goes back to 1-2 generiques, the rest rhumba. The rest of the genre follows suit and it has been downhill from there. Now here we are today.

Now, Fally or Ferre have the power to change things. They could just aim for their next album to have fully generiques and seben, very little rhumba. Not just plain seben songs. Really strong seben songs, with strong animations and partitions that are on the level of the golden days, and to top it off with a new modern and innovative approach. If they did that, I bet everyone would follow suit too. Guys like werra and Koffi would definitely go back to that format too. Then the genre is saved, and fally or Ferre would truly be the GOATS.

The donors.. yes the donors. I think if fally/ferre really wanted to do a seben album, they could convince the donors. The fact that fally/ferre and the other artist don’t see the value in seben is what led to the donors to believe that as well. Now I know they wouldn’t take this risk because they would rather play it safe, that’s why I’m so disappointed in this generation. They have the power, but they just don’t use it the right way. Time will pass them by and they will lose this opportunity. Just like with the last generation in the late 2000s(werra,Koffi,JB). They don’t have the same power now that they did 20 years ago. The same thing will happen to Fally/Ferre.

Let me know what you guys think. I know I might be ridiculous here but I wanted to throw this out there and hear your thoughts on this.

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Congolese Music / Re: CHEMIN DE LA GLOIRE IS OUT
« on: March 15, 2024, 04:49 »
Only one replayable song which is just the generique which is okay I guess. I’m not surprised with the rhumba format once again, but I’m just wondering is it ever going to change? It just seems to be getting worse-all the songs sound the same. I still think his first album was his best

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Congolese Music / Re: Nouvel Horizon new headquarters almost ready
« on: February 29, 2024, 13:57 »
Nice! Is this where they’re gonna rehearse and record albums?

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Congolese Music / Re: WASABO SHAKING THINGS UP!
« on: February 24, 2024, 00:20 »
Am I the only that think this is a better venue? La zamba was bigger and it has history, but this at least has better sound and a little more professional

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Congolese Music / Re: MULALA'S LAST CONCERT BEFORE DEATH
« on: February 12, 2024, 16:30 »
Oh wow I didn't know that. He always looked like he was in a good mood. That is really sad

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Congolese Music / Re: MULALA'S LAST CONCERT BEFORE DEATH
« on: February 12, 2024, 00:29 »
RIP... What happened to him? Was he sick?

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I didnt know he left again recently lol

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Congolese Music / Re: NOUVEL HORIZON NEW EP IS OUT
« on: December 17, 2023, 23:46 »
In the recent releases i notice they seem to do better in lives once album is released,they have a weird habit now that all of sudden when album is out zaparo finds good animation and by the time next album come,it will have been released as a single but done with less energy than in lives

Very true but honestly that’s every band these days lol

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY'S BELGIUM CONCERT WAS AWESOME
« on: December 17, 2023, 23:43 »
Sorry off topic question. But will guys like Werra and Koffi finally be able to perform in France and London now? Or will there still be issues with them? I appreciate Fally being able to have his concerts back but what about the other guys?
Tbh I don't know how Werra was with his concert in London but Fally as  Bigbang says has a crazy amount of connection, and tbh if anyone tried that combattant thing there it would have ended really bad for them. With that said Koffi and Werra despite being legends are unfortunately the face of singing for Guesso and Kabila so unlike Fally who somehow managed to stay outside of the controversy to sing for president they still have the brand that they worked with someone who oppressed the people.

Ahh I see but remember what happened with Fally’s Bercy 2020? How much has changed since then? The only thing I can think of is that the combatants have calmed down. Guys like Koffi and werra must feel some kind of way about fally being able to perform now

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY'S BELGIUM CONCERT WAS AWESOME
« on: December 17, 2023, 17:50 »
Werra did perform in London back in August

I know but he had some trouble with the combatants which made him change the venue and perform in a gym. It didn’t go as planned. It should’ve went like how it did with Fally

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY'S BELGIUM CONCERT WAS AWESOME
« on: December 17, 2023, 15:48 »
Sorry off topic question. But will guys like Werra and Koffi finally be able to perform in France and London now? Or will there still be issues with them? I appreciate Fally being able to have his concerts back but what about the other guys?

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Congolese Music / Re: NOUVEL HORIZON NEW EP IS OUT
« on: December 15, 2023, 18:03 »
That makes sense Archos. It’s amazing how the fuel runs out after just one album usually and they groups become more complacent. That’s how they eventually break up unfortunately. They need to avoid that and find their source of motivation elsewhere

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