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Congolese Music / Re: NYATAQUANCE IS OUT
« on: June 30, 2017, 20:57 »
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there longbluesquid. For some reason the songs on this album seem forgettable

They were at rehearsal yesterday preparing for Olympia.


Where is that Sebene from in the 1st minute? I only heard it at their Fikin 2016 performance. Is it anywhere on the new album?

Congolese Music / Re: ITS OUT!!!!!!!
« on: June 24, 2017, 21:53 »
This may be the best album of the Year!

That are foreigners who are saying that. Yes Temoinage is not like Kibuisa Mpimpa and A La Que Leu Leu. But if you ask Congolese people about Temoinage then they will say that it was a huge succes. The album was number one everywhere in the music-charts of Congo until Fally's departure from Quartier Latin, which made the already 2 months released Droit Chemin getting the number one spot. Everybody danced Kisanola in that era even politicians like Vital Kamerhe, Moise Katumbi, etc.  With the succes of Temoinage Werrason started touring in the big cities of Congo (Matadi, Bukavu, etc.), going to Cabinda, Angola and Togo, performing in the 24 area's of Kinshasa, giving sold-out concerts at GHK, beating Koffi Olomide at Fikin for the second time, getting a "disque d'argent" with Temoinage, Shaggy visiting him in Kinshasa and a jealous Koffi trying to lure Flamme Kapaya, Papy Kakol and Heritier to Quartier Latin.

It was A La Que Leu Leu who was not a really big succes compared to Temoinage. It was the first time Werrason flopped with a generic, with people complaining that Werrason messed the album up by doing to much "mabanga". The songs Maman Mabe and Victime d'Amour are good examples. But since it was the polemic-era with Werrason having the Congolese press in the pocket and himself still giving concerts with huge attendance in Kinshasa & Brazzaville, nobody in the press criticized him. I remember an interview of JB Mpiana with Francis Kakonde, where JB throwed indirect shots to Werra about that.  Albums like Compteur a Zero of Reddy Amisi, Affaire d'Etat of Koffi Olomide and Yo Nani of Wazekwa got a better reception. But the press was camouflaging it by praising Werrason and Wenge Maison Mere alot. That's how they killed our music, by not saying the true, being fans/groupies of artists and acting like musicians with someone like Zacharie Bababaswe giving a meeting in Stade des Martyrs and polemic starting between journalists on tv.

The flop of A La Que Leu Leu was due to having wait to long to release the album and starting the tour to late and staying to long in Europe. Werrason stayed 7 months in Europe, instead of 5 and went after that for some weeks to Angola. The tour started well, but on the end problems started. A La Que Leu Leu was planned for September 2002, but it got delayed to 28 Dec. With people already getting tired with the dance Koyimbi-Ko and the new cries, because they started to promote those dance and cries in the summer of 2001, after the release of Kibuisa Mpimpa. Such a shame, because the dance/cri Koyimbi-Ko was a big succes in 2001 and 2002, before the release of A La Que Leu Leu.

Well said. Also Ligne II was not a good generique especially when compared to operation dragon.

Congolese Music / Re: 7 JOURS VS KIBUISA MPIMPA
« on: May 22, 2017, 20:57 »
for me 7 jours is more on the mould  of malewa and hopefully of the sous sol and co on the few sebene rumba parts
but like stated above albums like kibuisa v12 or titanic to name a few are very very complicated to reproduce because first the secret of those albums is 99 per cent at least of those groups peaking at the same moment perfect conditions to release almost perfect motivation surrounding the artists... and its been one hell of a long time we have seen such context in any album

I agree with this. I atleast hope the generique is good.

« on: May 07, 2017, 04:11 »
Is it even true that werrason had a baby with her, and then he gave her and the baby to kakol? If that was the case then no wonder there are problems like this.

Congolese Music / Re: My favorite Reddy Amisi-album
« on: May 06, 2017, 04:05 »
Oh I see it sucks that it was recorded in kin and it was a commercial flop Matebu. For some reason I always thought it sounded good but it was missing something.

mvulusi96, I don't understand lingala, only French. But I can see where you are coming from. I know if I understood lingala I would probably appreciate arrangments and composition more. But I will give his older albums another listen.

Congolese Music / Re: My favorite Reddy Amisi-album
« on: May 06, 2017, 02:53 »
Am i the only one that thinks compteur a zero is his best one?

Amazing! These people know how to play REAL Seben!

Will it be released this year? If not he needs to stop playing.

Congolese Music / Re: Whats is the best Olympia-show ?
« on: May 02, 2017, 01:41 »
What about king Kesters Olympia in 2008?

Congolese Music / Re: Archive; The Most Worst Zenith ?
« on: April 30, 2017, 01:47 »
I think this may be the worst zenith

@seben-maniac, with all due respect this was a fantastic concert. Just put your distate for Cindy aside for a minute and take a listen again. The sound was one of the best outta all the Bercy, Zenith and Olympia gigs. The rendition of Ikia will remain one of the best!!!

OK it will be hard for me, but I'll try

Congolese Music / Re: Archive; The Most Worst Zenith ?
« on: April 29, 2017, 18:42 »
Hating koffi? LOL Koffi is one of my favorite artists, just because I do not like his music with Cindy does not mean I am hating on him.You may say that I am hating on Cindy, which I am fine with, but what exactly do you mean by "This is music for high class and matured people"? Isn't that kind of thing subjective? 2009 was a year when acoustic music took over, so I am not surprised that it was "successful" at the time. But compared to the other big zenith concerts, no one mentions this one because it wasn't as memorable as the others.   

I began to like this team ever since their great performance at Fikin 2016

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