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I understood what derailed Celeo's career, biloba-loba and trustijg the wrong people. I mean what he expected by supporting Koffi? When I saw him doing that I was like... Why? And then he should.have never talked about Koffi in this interview he should have Just promoter the album, he still didn't understood that being quiet Is Better than speak a thousands words. That Is the game that Werra and especially Ferrè and Fally have mastered so good. When Celeo had beefs with Fally, Fally never talked once about Celeo but he sento his group members to diss him lowkey. Celeo still thinks like an employee and not like a leader with that said. Celeo just Need to hire a Press Office or Someone Who can tell him what to Say or not.to say, that Is how most Western Artists avoid controversy, even Jordan Kusa understood this when he got reached by Ndombohlinl, being silent and letting his people handle It. Even if It Is too late already Celeo should Just think twice before mailing interviews attacking someone

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101.555 views ?

They are bought views. Youhave written 101.555 views Yesterday and today they are 100.333 as I screenshoted here you guys go check and see for yourself. Damn YouTube caught him


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another interview he says he came to france for private reasons(papers surely) but also is using that opportunity to plan on their tour in europe in june with label and producers,and that he did not come alone because he is "the leader" but because he had reasons to come,and that ramatoulaye will come with him next month with him to continue planning after ulrich tells him  that he might be egoistic because when roga comes to france he comes with espe bass,he does not see himself as  a supreme leader above of the rest but as a simple chef d'orchestre who coordonates things and who has been trusted by the co founders(ramatoulaye,levyson,obama,dodi le talent,dido senga,kassoul) to handle that role and that they dont need president role(president role was destined to espe bass if he did not change his mind after talking with roga)
he talked about kassoul saying its very sad for him because he loved kassoul like a little brother(i think he even lived with him in early zangul days  and was a great friend of his wife chella) and he is almost lost for words when continuing to talk about him
 ulrich keteur teased him several times about roga roga, for example about how he talked " bad" of him when they left and he says he actually did not say everything but he had to give a rather honest answer when he was asked he could not pretend it was all good anymore like when he was in zangul,but anyways he's moved on and he is focused on nouvel horizon
he is also teased again about the fact roga taught him guitar which he always like to adress that all the extra musica guitarists have the same master leo bvegadzi,but indeed roga being more experienced gave him some help to step his game up
 he is asked about bokoko whether he listened  to it he said yeah of course its a good thing for roga and ulrich tries teasing him again that they did not promote vision anymore because bokoko has overshone the whole congolese music and he says he is surprised to hear it from a professional journalist,to which ulrich says he asked question coming from fans,and sonor says he does not buy into that logic of when an artist has a big hit it kills the other artists there is room for anybody one artist having success does not block way for others it can happen sometimes that a second becomes a big hit  but its never something which will paralyse a whole music for years
if anything he is actually proud that roga has a hit,it only helps congo on the african musical map is roga is doing well,them well,kevin mbouande,doudou and co,the more there is artists doing well the more powerful congolese music will be in africa
he got finally asked about vision at some point and was relieved because he tried several times already to bring back focus on nouvel horizon and vision and he says its a good album and that he does not have 4 songs out the 13 because he is the leader or because he is the best of them but he is a writer and it happened that 4 of his songs made the cut during the selection,and he is asked how many songs he has in his career in zangul he says n'julie,gyrophare and rosalin but that many other songs were his but credited to other people
 and that despite him having 4 songs he did not put a different energy on it as arranger he gave his best on all songs like they are his just like the singers gave their best on his songs

What were the reasons of Espe Basso not going to ENH and staying with Roga? Plus December have passed and the album by Espe Basso which Roga promosse in the Bokoko album still didn't come. Why Espe Is so loyal to Roga? I don't get It, I don't even think he gets paid that much like Kinens, JDL, or all of the other Number twos in various Congolese groups

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Fuck him. He touches kids. If he was innocent he wouldn’t be on the run.
I totally forgot that, how Is his case going? It seems that the pubblic quickly forgotten about this. Which Is weird because I Remember him being in Congolese media outlets all day

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Werrason suspended Sankara indefinitely for what he said against Ferre over dynaste project. As we speak, Sankara is as good as a Fally guy now as he does not take part in any WMMM activity.

As fans we have less control over how things unfold, let us see how it goes. No one thought Werra could share a stage with JB but it happened. I personally don't take their differences to heart, all I want is to derive great utility seeing them work together as artists.

 
The problem with werra and ferre is that they have a similar trait which is huge pride,so even if things are calm now each on his side wants the other to make the step,and its expected even more on ferre,who by pride again refuses to make a move which will seem to him like opportunist move,like all the pain he went throught can be blown away like that
if ferre makes the step it will be "easy" and in no time we could see nsone explaining to people in every interview how great ferre is,but ferre also wants his share of proper apology to make that extra step further
the thing is that in most congolese beefs harm done is only portrayed as one sided,99 per cent of the non ferre fans will tell you that all was just perfect and ferre like a fool came and repeatedly disrespected werra(just like many ferre fans will say werra gave ferre a continious torrid time behind the scenes and on air through sankara and co),we dont really have that ability of fair judgement its always has to be one swallowing his pride  and shutting up to make "reconciliations" happen,never a honest assessement of mutual failures
ferre and werra like two people who still love each other but are too proud of making the step and just are letting things go by and watching,as long as each of them is alive
but they must realise that death can surprise them i hope they act before something happens
i hope too unfortunately some of the top top OG maison mere influential are dead otherwise they could have hold a secrete meeting like the way they used to do with jb nobody could even imagine in their craziest dreams what was happening until nsone's accident and the time factor and rise of fally ferre beef forced them to admit

Archos but we have to be completely honest tho. No One predicted the immense successo Ferrè would have and as you said parte of the reasons why he Is not as successful as Fally Is because Maison Mere Cmap and especially Werra Always tried to diminish him. Plus Ferrè After Al la Queue Lei Lei his last album in Wenge, was broke, treated bad because he left Werra and got not.paid Enough what he worth, and the nail on the coffin was Sankara insulting Ferrè's mother and never apologizing to her since now unfortunately She Is dead, now be in Ferrè's mind for a second, If I was him if Werra doesn't kneel, I don't care of he gives me 1 mil dollars ti reconcile, I won't. I won't go, I night take.the Money but won't go, because what Werra and Sankara did.is so wrong, plus the way Sankara praises Fally, you would.think Fally was a Maison Mere.member, but I had never seen those praises for Ferrè, yes now Werra Is on that Mumpe.mode, saying Tolingana etc. But nei Tolingana? You let that clown insult.ky.mother and want me ti Say Tolingana here Tolingana there, so I think that Werra Is to blame, and if Werra doesn't kneel ti Ferrè as I have said then yes Ferrè can miss the reuniom he got bigger things to do and he also turned out to be the best outside of that Maison Mere Camp so te.

About Sankara, have he left? I didn't expected him to be butthurt about a suspension, I hope this won't turn into a Zobozi 2 situation, because that would be ugly.

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Aah tika biloko wana. Ezo sopa ye mabe.

Btw I saw last week on social media Congolese pages saying that Celeo has still 0 zero streams on digital platforms. is that true ?
Whaaaat? The only.page in which you can see the Artist's stream Is Spotify where you get only a <1000 if the count of the stream are less than a 1000 so unless Celeo comes out and Say It It Is hard to tell, but if you have the.full versione of Spotify you can go and see if he has less than <1000 usually It Isn't an indicate of the Number of the stream but from the monthly listeners on Spotify. You can give yourself an Idea of how many stream an artist has.

I don't have the Spotify Premius but as you can see he has some good.amount.of.momthly.listeners about 4.2 K


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That's weird, he sings way Better than his Quartier Latin days. I don't know if It Is autotune or proper training, but comparse to his Generation Bercy vocale, with that says for answering Mfumu Vata's questione. Bro, It can be two things he either bought the views which can be the case because It has 2000 comments only or It can be that he used Google ADS Who gives you an automatic minimum of views but they are legit

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The problem with werra and ferre is that they have a similar trait which is huge pride,so even if things are calm now each on his side wants the other to make the step,and its expected even more on ferre,who by pride again refuses to make a move which will seem to him like opportunist move,like all the pain he went throught can be blown away like that
if ferre makes the step it will be "easy" and in no time we could see nsone explaining to people in every interview how great ferre is,but ferre also wants his share of proper apology to make that extra step further
the thing is that in most congolese beefs harm done is only portrayed as one sided,99 per cent of the non ferre fans will tell you that all was just perfect and ferre like a fool came and repeatedly disrespected werra(just like many ferre fans will say werra gave ferre a continious torrid time behind the scenes and on air through sankara and co),we dont really have that ability of fair judgement its always has to be one swallowing his pride  and shutting up to make "reconciliations" happen,never a honest assessement of mutual failures
ferre and werra like two people who still love each other but are too proud of making the step and just are letting things go by and watching,as long as each of them is alive
but they must realise that death can surprise them i hope they act before something happens
i hope too unfortunately some of the top top OG maison mere influential are dead otherwise they could have hold a secrete meeting like the way they used to do with jb nobody could even imagine in their craziest dreams what was happening until nsone's accident and the time factor and rise of fally ferre beef forced them to admit

Archos but we have to be completely honest tho. No One predicted the immense successo Ferrè would have and as you said parte of the reasons why he Is not as successful as Fally Is because Maison Mere Cmap and especially Werra Always tried to diminish him. Plus Ferrè After Al la Queue Lei Lei his last album in Wenge, was broke, treated bad because he left Werra and got not.paid Enough what he worth, and the nail on the coffin was Sankara insulting Ferrè's mother and never apologizing to her since now unfortunately She Is dead, now be in Ferrè's mind for a second, If I was him if Werra doesn't kneel, I don't care of he gives me 1 mil dollars ti reconcile, I won't. I won't go, I night take.the Money but won't go, because what Werra and Sankara did.is so wrong, plus the way Sankara praises Fally, you would.think Fally was a Maison Mere.member, but I had never seen those praises for Ferrè, yes now Werra Is on that Mumpe.mode, saying Tolingana etc. But nei Tolingana? You let that clown insult.ky.mother and want me ti Say Tolingana here Tolingana there, so I think that Werra Is to blame, and if Werra doesn't kneel ti Ferrè as I have said then yes Ferrè can miss the reuniom he got bigger things to do and he also turned out to be the best outside of that Maison Mere Camp so te.

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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER TAKES KISINDJORA TO EUROPE
« on: January 17, 2022, 17:55 »
https://www.facebook.com/100013240441613/videos/3282020255365079
they arrived and she already started her typical theatrics lol
some combattants are threatening her for her words in rwanda which they have been promising to make her pay for the day she comes to france
heritier took 50 members of team wata to turkey musicians and their reserve and 25 of them will make the spain concert
Wow thats a big team, I am happy for team Wata,I am pretty sure non of them will runaway like Villa Nova

As my boy But Na Fillet also known as Hugues says: "Ata entreprise eza ya 2 metre soki bafuti yo bafuti yo." Which means even if the Company Is of two Square mettere if.they pay you they Pay you. Fabregas I think Is the last.one Who doesn't pay his musicians costantly.of.the new generation and this refelcts in his stupid.antics and his tarnished image everybody sees him as a clown

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Congolese Music / Re: BRO SHAMALA THATS FOR YOU NEW BCBG DANCE
« on: January 17, 2022, 17:14 »


since i know you enjoy those live extracts of new animation
from 1Hour34min
dont ever count on guys like jdl leaving so easily lol look at the way he is looking at jb like he's never seen him when jb gets in the dancing mood at 1H26 towards 27
Leadeeeeeeeeerrr. This simple Word made JDL a Life member of BCBG

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Congolese Music / Re: NF TEASER KO TOKA GENERIQUE
« on: January 16, 2022, 19:50 »
Here..

Mmmmm the sounds Isn't really that good and I am super scared that the full geneuque Will be mediocre

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Congolese Music / Re: RANK ALL THE CONGOLESE GROUP FROM THE 80'S
« on: January 16, 2022, 07:12 »
Thanks a lot guys I will share the project with you as soon as I have done

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https://www.facebook.com/Congo10Infos/videos/344519684180282

Olivier,ceda and smoke
Olivier been doing that same solo dance for years now it's time to make something new, and that type of dancing belongs in Cultura  ;D. Lol Ceda doing that dance move on that crane in front of nothing but dudes  ;D ;D. I didn't like Smok's part.
True......kkkkkkk.......this is same story with all bands I think, the only solo dances I enjoy are of Maison Mere, the rest its just the same things especially Fally yohh

Mmmm the same old mentality of Congolese musicians, no matter the injury or the health issue Congolese musicians seem to not know when to stop and in most of.the time this showed to be fatal: Pepe Kalle, Papà Wemba, King KESTER, Defao and now even Ya Jossart, I think that the Legacy of Belgium using.us to work 24/7 stayed and people.can't Just Phantom rest

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA LIVE @ AFCON OFFICIAL OPENING
« on: January 14, 2022, 11:51 »

Horrible song selection and speaking of AFCON how the heck did DRC miss out but Malawi, Ethiopia and Gambia make it??


Who knows, Football Is so weird. Ethiopia and Burkina in African Cup but Congo not wild

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Congolese Music / RANK ALL THE CONGOLESE GROUP FROM THE 80'S
« on: January 13, 2022, 19:11 »
I am working on a project and I Need to know.all the names of the Big groups (historical ones) who becmae successful from 80s now on.

Now taking Wenge, 'S Grave, BCBG both The United Group and the JB's One, Koffi, Les Marquis etc. Who Is left?  Even if I forgot big.name.don't Attack me It Is really hard top remember all of the names of the Big groups

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