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Fally has always been the best in rumba and ndombolo albums so I know I won't be disappointed, it is crazy that there isn't no Mrvibes talking when we speak good about Fally
come on man just let it go just move on from it, and wait weren't you the one that was always fally has made less good songs since arsenal
Nah, I have always said that except Tokos the World album Fally always did great song Libre Parcours, Arsenal De Belle Melodie, Droit Chemin always quality songs everything on time, the only real album I do not like is Tokos

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Fally has always been the best in rumba and ndombolo albums so I know I won't be disappointed, it is crazy that there isn't no Mrvibes talking when we speak good about Fally

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the last trick kakol as a chef has pulled which his best friend seguin also does which pisses me off big time is making musicians to pay to be on stage,on tours, on albums regardless of their talent and their form of the moment
that way we are seeing some guys who deserved chance rotting in reserves while other who play the game get loads of opportunity
Wow, that guy really gets on my nerve, both of them, they are the reason especially Seguin of Wenge downfall from big band to small one.
Maybe Kakol is only mad because every time he sees his daughter thinks about the fact is not the real father lol.
Anyway that is exactly what I meant with Wenge ekufi, it has became a death place where you need to be very strong mentally to stay there, and it is just gross, gross I am speechless I knew Kakol was mean but this is beyond meanness especially in a poor country like Congo... SMH

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Very happy for our big brother can't wait to hear him back

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Congolese Music / 7 JOURS'S MESSAGE
« on: Today at 10:51 »
Yesterday before sleeping I thought how most of the generique and important songs in 7 Jours are deeply satanic or to put it in a not very scared way how they kindoki songs, because you have cries like Diemba (which is swing) which is a metaphor of going high into the normal world (when the swing goes up) and down in the dark and spiritual world (when the swing goes down) or esi ekomi (has already arrived) esi ekomi kala bazo yeba te mama (has already came, but they still don't know) which means that the spiritual power has come without the people knowing, and then on the the other two generique Se Na Se and Charge.
Se Na Se is honestly clear because it means (down and down) Se, Se, Se, Se biloko 'a Se Na Se (Down, down, down, down, the things of down and down) which hasn't much sense but if you look it on a spiritual is way too much clear the things of hell, the things of witchery that happen when you go down into the spiritual world, another example of the kindoki present in 7 Jours is the praise to Werra, the Oh Mama Oh Mama... Banani ngana zamba... Which means for going at LA Zamba you need to ask to the king of the forest, the money doesn't interest him, and doesn't buy him, and whoever try to balance back Werra in a spiritual way will be reach by fishbones and he will limp (basically a description of the classic voodoo technique of people to attack spiritually someone until he suffers physically) Sende ekoti nga nazo tambola tengu tengu (a fishbone has entered in me and I am walking limping limping) eeeh to bina biloko 'a Se Na Se ma. And Anti-Balle too with his mwana empoli omesana kofinga mikolo soki balakeli yo mabe oko zoka oko zwa embodu embodu embodu (Rude guy who is used to insult the elders and the dads and the moms if someone send you a malediction, you will hit very hard, very hard, very hard) which is of course direct to Heritier, and how Werra didn't want to give his spiritual power to Heritier.
And for concluding Charge, Charge Charge batax eleki nga mutu, Cynthia zemi oko zwa oko bwaka soi pwe (which says responsibilities responsibilities tax is getting over my head Cynthia the pregnancy you had you will throw you saliva which is a metaphor to say abortion) which it doesn't seem nothing but Archos confirmed it was spiritual and you can sense it is because Ambulance says that he have a lot of things to pay and people to feed (parents, relatives) but his hypothetical sister which he had forbid to go out got pregnant and since he doesn't have a mouth to feed he will start with abortion and then since he hasn't got a stable hob he will go spiritually very hard to keep his family's wealth, and the sacrifice is the unborn baby, I mean until Cynthia wasn't pregnant, Ambulance had nobody to sacrify for getting "rich" so he says that Cynthia will have to sacrifice her baby so he could spiritually have the money for feeding the family.
This is no polemic, but only a fact constatation, why Congolese musician can't really make any music without spiritual power?? (Power 001, Zigida, Koffi's song where he speaks about the devil, Operation Dragon, Tabu Ley not paying his musician who refused to got deep down in the game) an artist who didn't used any spiritual power until this day is Deplick who got forbid by parents to use spiritual and kindoki power for anything, the result of Deplici were excellent with enough donors to pay him 20 songs, production home releasing the videos and songs, with good amount of views why most of the musicians doesn't follow the "Deplick's example" but would still sell family and friends (Fabregas with Ibrator is a perfect example) for more money and fame? I mean after Tabu Ley, Evoloko, Zaiko, Franco and many others's example artist should have learned but instead they always go deep down in kindoki

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Man have some dignity lol, b*stars friends

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OK he likes to sleep with 18 years old girls but come on wow people go that hard on him?
If he was white, he could probably the current president of the United States (You can grab'em by the p**** guy) but since he is black they are bashing him the hardest they can

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Jealousy  will kill congolese people ... ah shit i said it .. y'all can shoot me i dont care ..  since when taking pics with celebrities has become a childish thing .  hmm congolais   MM  veut dire  motema mabeeeeeeeeeee.. hmmmmm it looks like ya'' still dreaming .. Fally is not at your lettle star  level anymore ... i dont think he needs to calm down , as long as us super stars still take pics with each other , i believe a congolese from bandal  who actually made it to the top has the right to so  , as long as its not hurting anyone ... ooopss except some people here and there ...kiee kiee . keep it up mwana bandal .. sala mussala na yo . allez kanga photo..(in Mopao voice).. kie kie
Mrvibes I will try to make the same talk that I made with your Ferrique counterpart POLE POSITION.
We are a public forum with a huge love for Congolese music.
And if we criticize someone for how ridiculous is being, it doesn't mean that we hate him, I have translated the lyrics of Libre Parcours #1,3 and soon #2 will come and all the people in the forum especially on the number one went nuts because of how good the lyrics was and how good the composition was except for some low volume on the number 3, I am a Ferre and Werra fan by the way, but somehow I have translated more lyrics by Fally instead of Ferre, myself when Ferre got us that ridiculous English wanna be Nigerian song I kinda made fun of him writing: "is your boy Ferre Gola".
And how much time I have criticized Werra? How much times?
And you know who is the biggest fan in this forum of Werra? MYSELF.
I have listened to every single album of him, and my playlist is 60% of Werra and the other 20% is of Werra off shots (Robinio, Fabro, Ferre, Deplick, Heritier, even Prince) but if Werra does something bad I will not hesitate to criticize him.
Mrvibes Fally is a 40 year old man superstar in Congo, France and whole the Francophone countries, it is ridiculous for him to take pictures with other stars for showing he got money and he made it big, when Snoop, Jamie Foxx and many other people who did pictures with him do not even know him, did you ever seen Neymar taking picture with Ronaldo? Nope, because Neymar understand his greatness and he doesn't need to being approved by his fans for thinking he is making it big.
And then Fally too much times forget he is Congolese and should behave like a Congolese star and make concerts in Congo and stop acting like a spring break girl who had her holidays payed by mommy and daddy to visit the world.
Last one, we are not jealous man, I follow Fally on FB on Instagram the other 20% of my playlist are most of his songs, and I think that 99% of the forum contributes to the promotion and the sales of these guys, Matebu went even on his VIP concert, don't take criticism as hate, because criticism is what drives people to perfection, we all knew how Ferre was bashed for not promoting his works, and now you have seen how well he did with Jugement, Werra was heavily criticated for Bercy and then he came out with 7 Jours
Damn im dizzy .. Dude you write too much  not say anything..i dont get it Bro.

I had no doubt that you wouldn't have red what I wrote, I don't think you have ever red something in your life, you are the living proof that if you want to keep something secret to a black guy you just need to put it in a book.

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@mvulusi96

I suppose the only person in Maison Mere who doesn't have a story of business or personal polemic is Papy Kakol and maybe Heriter! ????

Who do you think was better qualified to be leader of Les Marquis de Masion Mere? Such a promising offshoot band, but apparently all the founding members were vying for that leadership position.

In my opinion, JDT was always the best choice for leader. After all, wasn't the whole idea his when they first had problems with Werrason during the tour for Solola Bien?

It was tough watching those London concerts of Masion Mere in 2004, because you could tell that the whole group was on the verge of a split.



Sometimes I wonder if Werrason regretted those underhanded tricks that broke apart such a talented group. I gave him a pass the first time around with Wenge 4X4, but this split seemed a direct result of greed and reckles self-ambition.

Btw, whatever happened to Christian Mabanga and Michael Tshendu? I was surprised how that young boy got a song placed on the first Masion Mere album before Ferre Gola, Gola had been by Werrason's side since Pentagone.

I'm just surprised Michael Tshendu never went on to do more with the group, he was a promising vocalist, had style, and could dance but he just vanished.
Papy Kakol and Heritier has a long polemic history, Kakol since he became Chef D'Orchestre really made everything for guys to feel uncomfortable if he thinks that they need to leave (Prince, Bercy, Lobeso) for example he will do everything for you to make you leaving and then on TV he will say "leaving the group is a big mistake" even though he well knows he forced those guys out but he never got that aura of a polemic guy because he is only under Werra and administration so people in Wenge are aittle bit scared of his authority since he is the guy who along with the guitarist and Werra decides his much space member will have.
For Heritier Werra has treated him like a son even refusing the demission letter that Heritier sent to Werra before leaving.
Since Werra treated like his own son his bad behaviour is under the radar, but he is the guy who had a baby with Sylvie Mamoata's sister (Mampata and her family is untouchable in MM fans's mind) and the guy who sent some kids to beat Brigade that resulted in Brigade being seriously injured with photo walking all over internet






(which I think he did because he was sensing that Brigade was becoming too much important for Werra) which led to Brigade leaving the group since he went to Werra telling him whole the story, but Werra didn't even say a word by looking at Brigade with an empty stare that  basically made Brigade felt humiliated.
The crazy fact is that now Brigade and Heritier publicly gave each other compliment, Brigade in interviews and Heritier on his first concert as a solo artist were like I am very glad that my brother Brigade is here today.





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@mvulusi96

Now that you've explained it, I have noticed the significant difference in techinque of percussion in those songs. Papy Kakol was always powerful on drums, but definately lack the dynamic of style like rivals Titina Al Capone and Champion of Quarter Latin.

What was your favorite album by Werrason or Wenge Musica Masion Mere? Which one was your least?

My favorite is Kibuisa Mpimpa; excellent sebenes, all the members had a chance to shine vocally, and impressive animations from Bill Clinton & Celeo Scram.

I remember for some reason that JDT had limited vocals on Solola Bien, if I'm not mistaken he just sang on Koffi Ayiana and Rendez-vous manqué.

Poor Adjani, those times were the last time he looked healthy before drugs complicated him like Babia.

My least favorite is the album is Temps Présent Vol. 1, maybe it was Flamme Kapaya's absence kiekiekie!

I won't lie, it was rough start for Celeo Scram, the guy had so little space for animations in Intervention Rapide Rapide Force and Solola Bien, it wasn't until after those albums where he would get more space on records to impress. I heard it was because Werrason only wanted Bill Clinton as atalaku, is that true?

My favorite album was Kibuisa Mpimpa and the least was Temps Present. I didn't like the new style and image of the band with Werrason starting to praise Kabila openly in interviews and the departure of Flamme & at that moment my favorite atalaku Celeo made me not follow Maison Mere very hard like in the beginning.

I remember how some people didn't like Kibuisa in the first days. Prefering than Solola Bien above Operation Dragon, they found the song 13 Ans  the way Werrason said in the beginning "Le beaute de pere noel, c'etait les belles filles", "the looks of Santa Claus were beautifel girls". alot weren't used the way Werrason sung alot in Kibuisa compared to Solola Bien & Intervention Rapide, forgetting that it was a solo album. They said then that had to give Ferre Gola, Serge Mabiala & Adjani more space. But after after a month everybody accepted the album, expect the BCBG-fans.

Werrason didn't really like Celeo, since he hadn't the looks at that time despite of having proved his talents in Duc Herode's band. Because in Wenge, beside of being talented you had to got the looks to join the band. That's also the way how they killed Congolese music, accepting singer in the band who can't sing, but only got the looks. Celeo wasn't supossed to be at the Europe-tour of 1999. But he finally came with help from some donors and support of Adolphe Dominguez. But was then left behind in London by the band, people in London advised him to seek asylum, but he refused. There was a day that he was almost arrested and send back to Congo. Then when he heard that Maison Mere came to Paris, he went there to rejoin the band, but made a big car-accident the day he had to perform at Villejuif. The succes of Solola Bien, made him get respect and a little bit more space. But he was lucky to be at Bercy, because Werrason was angry when he discovered that he had a relationship with female dancer Bibiche Bercy. So he wanted to punish him leaving behind in Kinshasa and replace him by Doudou Kibinda. But he the whole band was against it and they supported Celeo.
I knew that Celeo wasn't loved by Werra but why did he kept him for so long?? Celeo lasted only two albums (Temoignage and Sous-Sol) plus Primus Generique with Kene and Roi David and then left or got kicked out by Werra don't rember it, in Europe blogs they used to say he got fired but people from Kin said that he cheated Werra since he couldn't understand that Werra took Brigade, sensing a Bill Clinton 2's situation and furthermore not liking Brigade because of their common ex girlfriend Mimi Chikeva mother of Brandon Avatar which strangely sings exactly like Brigade lol, by the way if you check the live version of Sous-Sol
(which by the way had over 2 million views but unfortunately got deleted)
You can see Celeo being very present in every of the atalaku space "fighting" with Roi David joking with Prince and if I don't go wrong even playing with Brigade, you can feel that he wanted to make his leadership strong.
You can sense Celeo wasn't that important to Werra by checking the Alerts General CD Cover where Werra took Roi David like a baby and sponsoring him like they did with Ko Yimbi Ko





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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY WANTS TO BE AMERICAN SO BADLY
« on: February 20, 2018, 10:00 »
Jealousy  will kill congolese people ... ah shit i said it .. y'all can shoot me i dont care ..  since when taking pics with celebrities has become a childish thing .  hmm congolais   MM  veut dire  motema mabeeeeeeeeeee.. hmmmmm it looks like ya'' still dreaming .. Fally is not at your lettle star  level anymore ... i dont think he needs to calm down , as long as us super stars still take pics with each other , i believe a congolese from bandal  who actually made it to the top has the right to so  , as long as its not hurting anyone ... ooopss except some people here and there ...kiee kiee . keep it up mwana bandal .. sala mussala na yo . allez kanga photo..(in Mopao voice).. kie kie
Mrvibes I will try to make the same talk that I made with your Ferrique counterpart POLE POSITION.
We are a public forum with a huge love for Congolese music.
And if we criticize someone for how ridiculous is being, it doesn't mean that we hate him, I have translated the lyrics of Libre Parcours #1,3 and soon #2 will come and all the people in the forum especially on the number one went nuts because of how good the lyrics was and how good the composition was except for some low volume on the number 3, I am a Ferre and Werra fan by the way, but somehow I have translated more lyrics by Fally instead of Ferre, myself when Ferre got us that ridiculous English wanna be Nigerian song I kinda made fun of him writing: "is your boy Ferre Gola".
And how much time I have criticized Werra? How much times?
And you know who is the biggest fan in this forum of Werra? MYSELF.
I have listened to every single album of him, and my playlist is 60% of Werra and the other 20% is of Werra off shots (Robinio, Fabro, Ferre, Deplick, Heritier, even Prince) but if Werra does something bad I will not hesitate to criticize him.
Mrvibes Fally is a 40 year old man superstar in Congo, France and whole the Francophone countries, it is ridiculous for him to take pictures with other stars for showing he got money and he made it big, when Snoop, Jamie Foxx and many other people who did pictures with him do not even know him, did you ever seen Neymar taking picture with Ronaldo? Nope, because Neymar understand his greatness and he doesn't need to being approved by his fans for thinking he is making it big.
And then Fally too much times forget he is Congolese and should behave like a Congolese star and make concerts in Congo and stop acting like a spring break girl who had her holidays payed by mommy and daddy to visit the world.
Last one, we are not jealous man, I follow Fally on FB on Instagram the other 20% of my playlist are most of his songs, and I think that 99% of the forum contributes to the promotion and the sales of these guys, Matebu went even on his VIP concert, don't take criticism as hate, because criticism is what drives people to perfection, we all knew how Ferre was bashed for not promoting his works, and now you have seen how well he did with Jugement, Werra was heavily criticated for Bercy and then he came out with 7 Jours

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Congolese Music / Re: IF YOU WERE A MUSICIAN...
« on: February 19, 2018, 13:12 »
I'd still use youtube granted the video is good. The payments suck but as a musician you don't really depend on this to recoup your income. It gives you the visual promotion for work later on like appearances/performances where many musicians make their money today. The other services are pretty much only audio which doesn't get attention like a video. Not to mention youtube is probably the most used service listed. Look at it as an investment.
That's true basically with 10000$/€ I have checked that it would have been 1.3 million of coverage 897€ who will rise up to 3.6 million views if the music is mad good with approximately 2484 €... 8000 Euro down the investments but as you said people will start to know you and could lead you to live which is the thing that gives you real money since the artist himself decides how much money he will take.

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY WANTS TO BE AMERICAN SO BADLY
« on: February 19, 2018, 13:06 »
It is on his FB page I didn't put any comments because I don't wanna get blocked we all know how much Fally is sensitive to critics

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Congolese Music / Re: FINALLY JAMAICA IN WMM - GREAT REPLACEMENT
« on: February 19, 2018, 13:05 »
Wenger ekufi.....lol
Werrasonique you are not aware of the current situation in Wenge, no Europe, no French or Europan fans under 40 (except me) Wenge lost his identity of live music orchestra and people are more interested in Fabro, Ferre, Fally, and so on most of my friends doesn't even know Werra is out and when I make then listen songs they say he lost his identity, I mean the fact that people constantly go it means something is not going, most of the people who left Wenge Bill and Ferre to start didn't even want to leave and Wenge could be the big first group in Congo, if you check all the interviews except for Fabregas (who wanted to make his album months before going out) whole the ex members of Wenge didn't want to leave Lobeso left because he was kinda became the laughing stock of Wenge (village boy, guy who only speaks in Mongo) Brigade because he was badly beaten by Heriter's pals, Heritier because he didn't feel enough freedom, Eboa my god Eboa how many times Eboa has been treated like shit? In the series of Sous-Sol him and Kene were left behind in Kin with family to feed and not even a cent left by Werra.
You can not be only hyped by the music without watching the condition of the people who makes it.
If Anti-Balle left after one disc, if Ambulance and Bill left after being the number one it means something, Wenge ekufi I repeat it I give 3 years max to Jamaïque de Kisangani for leaving, MARK MY WORDS.
Like I said that 7 Jours would have been a success Jamaïque will last three years in Wenge MARK IT

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Congolese Music / Re: IF YOU WERE A MUSICIAN...
« on: February 19, 2018, 11:08 »
I'm a huge fan of Tidal. So I would side with them, but I would want to get my music exposed more
I think I would sign for tidal too but at the same time, at least in Europe, Tidal is not very used by the consumer.
Spotify is the application that everyone uses but the problem with Spotify is that gives you less money and for YouTube it is easy by sponsoring get million views but money is even lower and you have to come with a crazy good video for getting a very good number of views

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