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I am looking specifically for the last three months or so

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Nyinyi...watu wangu...my peoples...batu ba Congovibes...

tuchukuwe break kidogo hivi kwa hizo polemique na maneno mingi. Sisi wote tunapenda hii muziki inayoitua Rumba...inayoitua Soukous...itanaitua Ndombolo. Hiyo ndio kitu muhimu ama. As always, I come to these forums to clarify some things that I do not understand about the culture of this music that I love so much and more importantly, I come to these forums to find the music that is currently trending, the Congolese music that I should be listening to right now this March of 2019. Because above all else, it is because of Congolese music that we are here. So what are the Rumba and Sebene songs that I should be listening to right now? I am currently bumping Fally's new album non-stop and that is about it really. I like Ferre's new "Pourquoi Tu Fait" single. But What are the top 20 Rumbas and what are the top 20 sebenes that should be in my playlist right now? My Rumba and Sebene playlists are patiently waiting for your recommendations....

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Congolese Music / Re: Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: February 02, 2019, 04:49 »
sometimes its done on purpose from a man perspective to a woman or vice versa, and more and more these days musicians just buy or steal a song from writers which they find nice then insert the name of the guy who came with the biggest cash or who completed money agreed the quickest regardless of the text and whether it matchs his life or not

Thanks Archos. That is where it gets confusing when they just insert the donors name everywhere even in between expressions of love and affection. I assume that the lyricists and writers that they steal these songs from address the songs to a particular female interest. But when the famous music artists sing it they insert the name of the donor randomly everywhere and that is where it confuses me when I hear lyrics like "Doc Jeff mon amour" "Doc Jeff mon champion" being sung by fally.

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Congolese Music / Re: Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: January 31, 2019, 06:25 »
As the title says they are just praise songs nothing else .


are the romantic phrases directed at these donors by male singers in the context of praise music also? Is this a cultural phenomena specific to and contextual to Congolese culture and expressed in the rumba musical style? I can understand a praise song that lists the accomplishes and masculine traits of a man in his society and community but not the man in question addressed in a romantic manner by the male singer. What role are these male singers taking in the love songs? A female lover to the male donor? In some songs it is clear especially in the songs that the footballers buy for their wives like in "One Love" where it is clear that he addresses the wife of Alex Song as the wife of Alex Song. But who are the male singers addressing the male donors directly as in the songs? Or are they just singing in an impersonal role to these male donors? That is, there is no context to their singing. They are singing love songs to these men and this is normal in Congolese society as expressed in the rumba music. These are the questions I want more detail and context in.

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Congolese Music / Re: Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: January 31, 2019, 06:23 »
As the title says they are just praise songs nothing else .


are the romantic phrases directed at these donors by male singers in the context of praise music also? Is this a cultural phenomena specific to and contextual to Congolese culture and expressed in the rumba musical style? I can understand a praise song that lists the accomplishes and masculine traits of a man in his society and community but not the man in question addressed in a romantic manner by the male singer. What role are these male singers taking in the love songs? A female lover to man? Or are they just singing in an impersonal role to these male donors? That is, there is no context to their singing. They are singing love songs to these men and this is normal in Congolese society as expressed in the rumba music. These are the questions I want more detail and context in.

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Congolese Music / Re: Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: January 31, 2019, 02:18 »
I've always wondered this.
As far as the lyricism in Congolese rumba, when the singer is taking the perspective of his own or as man vs the perspective as a woman?
Like to they go back and forth switching perspectives?
I've noticed that Franco used to sing from the perspective of a woman sometimes too.


That is what I want cleared too 'faithandwar'. In the old songs it was more clear because in the song like "Mario", you can tell that the singers assume the role of a woman lamenting the shenanigans of their lover. That was the stable of the old rumba. They singers played female characters too in their lyrics. But in these new songs it does not seem so clear. Songs like Mario are not praise songs. They are character based social commentary and role playing. But what is going on in these new songs and dedicated love songs to wealthy men?

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Congolese Music / Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: January 30, 2019, 05:19 »
Guys,

How does Mabanga in love songs work? So in the song like "Doc Jeff", is Fally singing a love song to this Doc Jeff guy? Is he taking the role of a lover of Doc Jeff? Maybe I have been corrupted by the West but there seem to be declarations of love being uttered by these male singers to these male donors. Is this all just harmless?

I have asked this before but I am just confused guys. I am expecting love songs about women in rumba but I don't know what is going on with these songs that are bought by these tycoons.

I guess I am asking for the cultural Congolese context of the way the music is today with ridiculous amount of mabangas and more and more bought love songs whose titles are the names of their donors.

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Congolese Music / Re: Direct Contact to Fally Ipupa
« on: May 07, 2018, 05:33 »
i know toto is used but not "mtoto". just think that the word "mtoto" does not translate to swahili the same. unless it has picked up in east africa. a couple of years back being in east africa i don't recale us ever using "mtoto" to refer to a woman or girl like how "baby" or "mwana is used in the other languages.
In Kenya mtoto can be used to refer to a beautiful young woman/girl. It must be the couple of years!!

It definitely must be the years SYMPLICITY. Inabidi nirudi Nai ku update sheng yangu

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AT 14 12 then  15 45 again he hints they are not releasing yet because they are looking for who to sacrifice and jokes that whoever will have bad luck will go,easy like killing a cow

holy shit man. these guys are really normalizing this satanism now.

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Congolese Music / Re: Direct Contact to Fally Ipupa
« on: May 05, 2018, 03:28 »
Would like the contact of his manager? Because most communication for Fally goes through her.

lol i actually meant it as someone to inform him in case i was right that he was misusing the word but it is i who is wrong and he is using it just fine.

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Congolese Music / Re: Direct Contact to Fally Ipupa
« on: May 05, 2018, 03:26 »
i know toto is used but not "mtoto". just think that the word "mtoto" does not translate to swahili the same. unless it has picked up in east africa. a couple of years back being in east africa i don't recale us ever using "mtoto" to refer to a woman or girl like how "baby" or "mwana is used in the other languages.

Mtoto : portable/slim/sex lady (old linda or old cuise de poulet)

Toto/totoz : one with a great shape (Bibiciya/Anya Type)

sawa princesab. that clears it.

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Congolese Music / Re: Direct Contact to Fally Ipupa
« on: May 04, 2018, 19:12 »
i know toto is used but not "mtoto". just think that the word "mtoto" does not translate to swahili the same. unless it has picked up in east africa. a couple of years back being in east africa i don't recale us ever using "mtoto" to refer to a woman or girl like how "baby" or "mwana is used in the other languages.

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Congolese Music / Direct Contact to Fally Ipupa
« on: May 04, 2018, 13:17 »
Who on here has direct contact to Fally?

He makes a big mistake when he uses the word "mtoto" to refer to women in his East African concerts to mean the same thing how the word "baby" is in English or "mwana" is in Lingala or "bebe" in French. In East African Swahili we do not use the word "mtoto" to refer to women. Someone please correct him because he uses this word "mtoto" a lot as a direct translation in his concerts when he is in East African countries and it's cringe-worthy. We use other cheeky and sweet words in East Africa to refer to women in the Swahili language and it is not "mtoto".

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Congolese Music / Re: New Rumbas for the Summer
« on: April 05, 2018, 05:41 »
Thanks guys. Maybe asking for this year was a little too early. I have been enjoying a lot of those you guys have listed so far from last year. And I am becoming more of a rumba connoisseur too SYMPLICITY. The sebenes from the artists have not been very inspiring as of late but the rumbas have been class. Keep them coming guys.


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Congolese Music / New Rumbas for the Summer
« on: April 04, 2018, 07:31 »
My people, I need like a list of twenty or so tantalizing  rumbas that came out this year to start a playlist for the summer.

You can keep adding to this list as more and more rumbas come out going into the summer.

Add away!

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