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I found some boring. Alot of 1999 & 2001, 2002 and  2003 were also fanatastic sometimes many times also better of 1992-2008. Back in the days didn't like Koffi's concert. I started to like it from 1994 when Lebou Kabuya came with the rock-guitar style mode. But after he restarted to find Koffi concerts boring (except Abidjan '97). It's from Loi that I started really to like Koffi concerts. I remember back in the days how peoples used to complain that Koffi & Quartier Latin were not good it giving concerts, it changed from 2001.

I feel like Koffi's old female dancers were more on the sensual part of things.
They were not "rough"/"tough" dancers like the WMM dancers.

Funny because i was watching koffi’s concert in aquaboulevard in 1994, and when zina done her mutuachi part, i was like « how the f could u go there with your wife ? ». female  dancers weren’t vulgar but very sensual.

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The  93 Mama Ngebi Noblesse Oblige live was one of his best performances, even visually. Only rivaled by the 95 and 97 Abidjan concerts and some live around 98 in Europe. The only thing Koffi was laking was god dancers, but I never cared male dancers anyways, especially the Fally, Kusa, Depitchou crowd. They dance for the ladies.

I share your feelings. I also think the duo beevans & manzugidi were underated. Notice that beevans has his own style, he wasn’t yet a copy of ekokota + it always was a pleasure to see tolin

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Attentat

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What a great concert! 35:35 for the 1st version of dessin animé
Great team : beevens, babia, willy bula, suzuki & aladji. Unfortunately no jean louis manzugidi (who was waaaaay better than beevens). Koffi was such a good dancer.
The combo « poussa ambiance poussa », « bareko », « moto, moto » in koffi’s concerts in 93-94 >>>>, sad its never appeared in no cd.
Mireille konde, what a beautiful lady.

Listen to the Noblesse-Oblige album (cd-version) from the start till the end and you will hear all those cries.

Dessin Anime was already finished back in 1994 and sung Skola herself. In 1997 Koffi just added some vocals to let it look like a duet and Ondoma added some sounds to the song. Hahaha the way that belt moved which Suzuki whore that day.

So sad how Mireille Konde died (R.I.P.)

Yeah but it sounds different than concerts because it was performed by koffi, but when beevans & manzugidi make thoses cries, its a jam.
How did she passed?

She felt in love with a guy living in Paris. But then the guy didn't let hear anything about him so she went with another guy in Kinshasa. Then she became pregnant and suddenly the guy called her and said that he would arrive in Kinshasa to get her and bring her in Paris. Which shocked her and she wanted to remove the baby so that she could go to Paris. But it was very dangerous, since that the pregnancy was already avanced. She then took the risk and died because of that. Alot of people don't know that story and are claiming that Koffi sacrified her including JF Ifonge, which is not true.

I prefere Beevans above Manzuigidi. Beevans is fire compare his animations of Magie to those of Pas-de-Faux. In Magie they animated together, but Manzuigidi just had one crie.

Daaamn i didnt knew about this, r.i.p


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What a great concert! 35:35 for the 1st version of dessin animé
Great team : beevens, babia, willy bula, suzuki & aladji. Unfortunately no jean louis manzugidi (who was waaaaay better than beevens). Koffi was such a good dancer.
The combo « poussa ambiance poussa », « bareko », « moto, moto » in koffi’s concerts in 93-94 >>>>, sad its never appeared in no cd.
Mireille konde, what a beautiful lady.

Listen to the Noblesse-Oblige album (cd-version) from the start till the end and you will hear all those cries.

Dessin Anime was already finished back in 1994 and sung Skola herself. In 1997 Koffi just added some vocals to let it look like a duet and Ondoma added some sounds to the song. Hahaha the way that belt moved which Suzuki whore that day.

So sad how Mireille Konde died (R.I.P.)

Yeah but it sounds different than concerts because it was performed by koffi, but when beevans & manzugidi make thoses cries, its a jam.
How did she passed?

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What a great concert! 35:35 for the 1st version of dessin animé
Great team : beevens, babia, willy bula, suzuki & aladji. Unfortunately no jean louis manzugidi (who was waaaaay better than beevens). Koffi was such a good dancer.
The combo « poussa ambiance poussa », « bareko », « moto, moto » in koffi’s concerts in 93-94 >>>>, sad its never appeared in no cd.
Mireille konde, what a beautiful lady.

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I think suzuki should stayed in bcbg until TH, wich would gave him a plateform, visibility & popularity.
I also think, it was a bad idea to wanted to do an album after loi

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Congolese Music / Re: Sanction Vs Viagra
« on: May 13, 2018, 13:56 »
Do you underestimate ba chérie ya Paris? Hahahahha. Back at that that they had nothing and those girls were also feeding them when they were in Europe. Buying everything for them, etc. Musicians started to profit from them. There even married women who ran away from their house to be with them, which angered their husbands. Or dautgthers of 17/18 years of donors becoming pregnant and the musicians getting throught them French papers. Alot of these women became years later combattans after being used as sextoys/sugermother of musicians. I will not mention names. If it wasn’t the thugs in Paris who were fans of Werrason, then Deplick and Fabregas would have stayed in Europe after that succesful tour of 2010. Because both guys became crazy with those girls following then, espcially Deplick.

Popolipo joined Academia on the last moment when they recruited already all those singers, guitarists and dancers. People in Europe were waiting for the female dancers an new singers they recruited after seeing those video’s of their shows in Kinshasa where they inpressed everybody.

Excuse my street language but « n*ggas were h*es ». I didnt realise some of them went to europe for the 1st time so they took the opportunity to stay there like augusto nsingi back in the days.
It seems to be kind of hard to choose «wich artist shound i bring with me? Are they really like their job? Are they faithful with the squad? Can i trust them? »

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I don’t know but she looks like Lipati

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Congolese Music / Re: Sanction Vs Viagra
« on: May 13, 2018, 01:24 »
Tonton lay grand chanteur. I heard he « nearly » went to ql in 2k3 but it didn’t last, what’s really happening ?

We are in 2018 and i still dont get why mustapha & clovis silawula left ql for academia, but their contributions in viagra were good.
I think the departure of bouro didnt disadvantage the groupe

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Congolese Music / Sanction Vs Viagra
« on: May 13, 2018, 00:04 »
Hi guys, hope y’all doing well
I know there is a thread in 2k13 about this, but there weren’t a lot of views & recently i listened to both albums & even i was a little boy when those cd’s came out, i remember the hype & the quality.

I believe that sanction is an amazing cd, great rhumbas, heavy sebens, 3 great singers, 2 dope atalakus, with lebou, pathy, mike evian & djudju chet.
I think that album is like a « droit de veto 2 » & it’s sounds great.
But the difference between viagra & sanction, is the fact that sanction is so a « ex quartier latin musicians » album & viagra is like a normal groupe, like bcbg, maison mere, quartier latin, zaiko (figure they removed « quartier latin » on the cover).
Viagra introduced new signers like abel benz, tonton lay (wich did great vocals on the album), eric menth; the arrival of beniko popolipo (the autor of ezala zala, one of my favorite song on the lp), suzuki, tshetshe deballe, mustapha, clovis silawuka, pitchou concorde & blanchard (im not sure, correct me if i’m wrong).
Sometimes I imagine how it could be with bouro mpela wich participated on the early recording but at the same time, his return in ql for effrakata was a blessing.



(In 40:35 a snippet of collation)

Except sam’s abusive mabanga (wich is sometimes annoying), viagra is a great cd, they sound more experienced, there sound more independent (of the image of « old koffi’s musicians ») & the arrangements are great, but the hunger they had in sanction hmmm... i dont know wich album i prefere.
What about y’all?

Ps : viagra hightlights are ezala zala, the fact that there is suzuki, kimpwaka (heavy), chico (surprising from dolce parabolique), zabalumbu (best track on the album), jules bm (best modogo’s song he ever done in my opinion)
Ps 2 : even bouro mpela is my favorite artist in the quartier latin’s camp, his song « da silva » in santion was wack
Ps 3 : I think if there weren’t no leadership problems, the group would remain longer, beceause the quality was there

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi olomide 2000 Interview
« on: May 12, 2018, 21:42 »
@Matebu

Savanet would have been left behind for Effrakata if we're being completely honest, his vocal style is too melancholy for the glitzy production of Koffi's post-Academia releases.

Keep in mind, the recent recruits like Deo Brando and Jordan Kusa would of put pressure on Savanet to step his game up or get left behind in Kinshasa, because Mustapha couldn't manage to make it to Effrakata and he was actually GOOD at singing.

I think if mustapha didnt left ql for academia, he’d be in force de frappe & as well effrakata.

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi olomide 2000 Interview
« on: May 10, 2018, 21:07 »
When he mentions bouro, can y’all confirm if thats when he came back?

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi olomide 2000 Interview
« on: May 10, 2018, 14:57 »
Looool Koffi's saracasm always kills me the way he was tryna act like depitcho and co didn't exist... so it came from koffi's mouth too then jf wws never a true QL member just koffi's pire petit which is what fally, soleil and others have said in the past

« Nani?.... AAAAAAAAA PETIT NA NGAI SAVANET » hahahahah

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