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My knowledge may be limited but surely this is playback and not acoustic.
Any response?

Definitely a playback, there's no reverberation from the acoustic guitar and the space in the room.

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Congolese Music / Re: IS THIS LEGIT? OFFSET AND IPUPS
« on: May 30, 2020, 17:52 »
Until I see a song, it's fake. Congolese musicians have a history of telling tall tales when it comes to foriegn collaborations lol

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Congolese Music / Re: This Zaiko generique was fire
« on: May 28, 2020, 23:52 »


This album was but aah forgive me but that new team did not impress me apart from Adamo and Lassa.

I don't know any song of that album. Only the generique, Delestage of Papy Cocaine (the remix version of it in Empreinte is better) and Ngoma of atalaku Bidjana (Nyoka is a big thief, he credited the song on his name). Because I used to hear the 3 tracks often on the radio. I had that cd at home, but I listened only 3 times in my whole life.

Yes, that team was not good. Most guys didn't even know the songs of Zaiko (I remember Nyoka Longo complaining a few times in interview and press conferences about it in his last years living in Brussels when they were stuck there). Most even wanted to join Zaiko, they just joined it to see Europe and other because they couldn't make it in big bands and some seeing no future in their band (Delta Force).

Bruh, Bidjana was so limited creatively. He kept doing the same cries for every single album, I'm surprised he lasted so long.



Whatever happened to Papy Cocaine? He was so good, but disappeared.

Bidjana only animated on 2 albums (Feeling and Eureka) and hadn't alot of space because they had like 4 atalaku's and he wasn't the main atalaku. He had only alot space in concerts, where Nono and Doudou was animating less and Papy Cocaine alot along Bidjana.

Bidjana animated on Empreinte, getting some space on the 20 minutes generique which was made to animate all cries of Zaiko since 1988 to 2003. So its normal that he animated the cries he in the previous album.

Before Zaiko he used to be in Do Akongo's band after having spent a little time in QL where he animated along with CNN, but being immediatly fired by Koffi for not having black clothes when performing at Cinemax (You can see him dancing in the Sur La Route de Bercy-VHS, when performing Rond Point at Hotel Intercontinental). Bidjana joined Quartier Latin, after missing the Zenith-trip JB Mpiana because of ilness (Gentamicine cursed him to be sure of his place, he didn't have to do it. Because the whole band was a fan of him and monsieur Simon said that he would bring him to Paris even if JB would leave him behind in Kinshasa. Bidjana got sick after rehearsing with him and letting animate a text on paper which came from Genta's witchdoctor, thinking that it was normal cri and not knowing about that. Then when he came back at home he became very sick). Bidjana was recruited to replace Ekokota and respond he cri's of Caludji.



You hear animate him here (from 7:22 min). He would do that cri in Feeling of Zaiko.



here he was on stage with Genta (having a red t-shirt and a shaker in his hand) on the second last concert of BCBG in Kinshasa before Zenith. from 2:04 min (Genta would animate some of his cri in Ya Pas Match and Internet).



from 12:09 min (explaining how Genta cursed him in the toilet)




This album was but aah forgive me but that new team did not impress me apart from Adamo and Lassa.

I don't know any song of that album. Only the generique, Delestage of Papy Cocaine (the remix version of it in Empreinte is better) and Ngoma of atalaku Bidjana (Nyoka is a big thief, he credited the song on his name). Because I used to hear the 3 tracks often on the radio. I had that cd at home, but I listened only 3 times in my whole life.

Yes, that team was not good. Most guys didn't even know the songs of Zaiko (I remember Nyoka Longo complaining a few times in interview and press conferences about it in his last years living in Brussels when they were stuck there). Most even wanted to join Zaiko, they just joined it to see Europe and other because they couldn't make it in big bands and some seeing no future in their band (Delta Force).

Bruh, Bidjana was so limited creatively. He kept doing the same cries for every single album, I'm surprised he lasted so long.



Whatever happened to Papy Cocaine? He was so good, but disappeared.

Bidjana only animated on 2 albums (Feeling and Eureka) and hadn't alot of space because they had like 4 atalaku's and he wasn't the main atalaku. He had only alot space in concerts, where Nono and Doudou was animating less and Papy Cocaine alot along Bidjana.

Bidjana animated on Empreinte, getting some space on the 20 minutes generique which was made to animate all cries of Zaiko since 1988 to 2003. So its normal that he animated the cries he in the previous album.

Before Zaiko he used to be in Do Akongo's band after having spent a little time in QL where he animated along with CNN, but being immediatly fired by Koffi for not having black clothes when performing at Cinemax (You can see him dancing in the Sur La Route de Bercy-VHS, when performing Rond Point at Hotel Intercontinental). Bidjana joined Quartier Latin, after missing the Zenith-trip JB Mpiana because of ilness (Gentamicine cursed him to be sure of his place, he didn't have to do it. Because the whole band was a fan of him and monsieur Simon said that he would bring him to Paris even if JB would leave him behind in Kinshasa. Bidjana got sick after rehearsing with him and letting animate a text on paper which came from Genta's witchdoctor, thinking that it was normal cri and not knowing about that. Then when he came back at home he became very sick). Bidjana was recruited to replace Ekokota and respond he cri's of Caludji.



You hear animate him here (from 7:22 min). He would do that cri in Feeling of Zaiko.



here he was on stage with Genta (having a red t-shirt and a shaker in his hand) on the second last concert of BCBG in Kinshasa before Zenith. from 2:04 min (Genta would animate some of his cri in Ya Pas Match and Internet).



from 12:09 min (explaining how Genta cursed him in the toilet)

Thank you! Voila, le plus grand historien!

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Why should Fally do anything about this man's funeral?

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Congolese Music / Re: This Zaiko generique was fire
« on: May 28, 2020, 20:58 »


This album was but aah forgive me but that new team did not impress me apart from Adamo and Lassa.

I don't know any song of that album. Only the generique, Delestage of Papy Cocaine (the remix version of it in Empreinte is better) and Ngoma of atalaku Bidjana (Nyoka is a big thief, he credited the song on his name). Because I used to hear the 3 tracks often on the radio. I had that cd at home, but I listened only 3 times in my whole life.

Yes, that team was not good. Most guys didn't even know the songs of Zaiko (I remember Nyoka Longo complaining a few times in interview and press conferences about it in his last years living in Brussels when they were stuck there). Most even wanted to join Zaiko, they just joined it to see Europe and other because they couldn't make it in big bands and some seeing no future in their band (Delta Force).

Bruh, Bidjana was so limited creatively. He kept doing the same cries for every single album, I'm surprised he lasted so long.



Whatever happened to Papy Cocaine? He was so good, but disappeared.

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You were there?! Great pictures

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Maguy (RIP) was so beautiful. If you see Blandine today, you will run away for the huge amount of tatoos she has now.

I was a kind dissapointed when I heard the way Wemba disrespected Wendo Kolosoyi before the show

How did he disrespect him?

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Fally removed his song since he refused to sign contract with f victeam since he disagreed with some conditions
What was the condition ?

Probably Sima C'Est Bon knowing some Eto'O's friends taste. Anyway I need to find a way to get that song, African artist should let people have their own music if they don't agree with people not only Fally but even Werra, JB and many other Congolese artist do a song release it then erase it or Just release it in one platform and it gets you mad searching, for example all of the views Werra had in the period between Temoignage and Sous-Sol got lost because there weren't official YouTube artist's official channels

The back is good? What does that even mean?

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Yes, CNN stole it according to Papy Louange, when he stayed in Europe. Because it were animations created by him & Gessac, when they were preparing for Yo Nani and Wazekwa wanted them to leave some space for CNN. But not long after that,CNN went to Europe with Wazekwa and when he stayed, he went animate those cries of Gessac and Papy Louange in Volte Face

Did CNN leave because Gesac bullied him out the group? Or did he leave because Lebou Kabuya lured him to create QL Integral? Or did he leave for JB Mpiana's band? I forgot which came first, something tells me QL Integral first because Volte Face came out November of 2001.

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Congolese Music / Re: News: Former QL Atalaku Ocean gone
« on: May 25, 2020, 01:50 »
Omg, what happened?! This is the worst year in Congolese music  :'(

R.I.P.

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He explained that he is joss diena's childhood friend and that they have been in street groups together and joss went to cultura before him and he ended up joining cultura 
he says contrarily to what people think signature was not about witchcraft at all it was more the result from high level of motivation and as an atalaku he just made those comments some atalakus make in songs to spice it up but it was not  witchcraft maybe people also thought that because of the way he was calling wazekwa  W le vieux nganga(which can be either interpreted as the sorcerer the traditional doctor or the genius) which was in that case the genius
and he says they watched esobe's comedy with male mambwa and transformed it into a complete animation along with joss and he says he likes insisting with the name of joss because he is his friend yes but also he was a natural leader in cultura so he was very involved in the group's activity to reach another dimension
he talked about gesac  "attacking" him and claiming its him who made cultura,and he said he does not want to play gesac's game of  series of rants to be relevant but all he knows and which people can see was that until he left he was cultura's main atalaku but if gesac wants to claim he singlehandedly made wazekwa's career up to him(about gesac i saw today also a video of eclipse seemingly  fed up and tired of gesac's continous attacks and belittling and said gesac is acting like a used and drained chewing gum with no more sugar,who has nothing more to offer so he spends years in polemic instead of working) and that him and gesac do not talk(he also made hint that one of the early cultura pays vie singer jose senga "yaya" died from covid recently) and that maybe gesac talks like that because he is bitter that the other cultura atalakus have made steps forwards compared to the past and he was asked about an argument he had with gesac in a concert and he explained that gesac wanted so much to dominate that he decided doing his stuff just to stay longer on the main mic and he ruined it since he did not have the voice to reach high tenor notes  so he was telling gesac that he should let him do his own animation and gesac did not appreciate it and started to fight him
he says he left cultura in europe because of personal problems which he did not want to bother wazekwa with and handle it like a man,and that wazekwa is a good leader who listens a lot to his musicians
He says they work on yo nani him cnn and gesac (who did nono's work) then as cnn left gesac did his parts
cnn mamale arrived to europe with wazekwa before the rest of the group only eric tutsi did not make it and stayed in kinshasa with them  and cnn did those animations in quartier latin integral technically the integral generique is cnn adapting what they should have done as the cultura generique  which had few of his work,nono for gesac and louange
he confirms that he is celezino's younger brother,from same parents,celezino is the oldest then a sister then him papitcho and his twin sister mitcho

That metaphor of chewing gum perfectly explains Gesac. Was Eric Tutsi left behind because his drug problem came back? I suspect so, had Felix been wary of QL members like JB Mpiana then he wouldn't have taken CNN to Europe.

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But I ask myself this... Unlike many other artists, how does he manage to stay relevant as one of Africa's giants?
I mean... Selfie was one of his biggest continental hits since Loi.



Facts, even though his current band is ass lol

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Fally part had me rolling lmao

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Keep the same level, how? Fere and co Left and he gave us Alerte Generally, Temoinage, Sous sol and a number of live shows to remember. He made Brigade more famous than when he was at QL. My friend what did JB Gave us after TH? there is an old adage that says. When you are at the top, there is no way else to go but down. You loose motivation and energy. King Kester had his tiime, did he stay on top forever? Nooo! Was Papa Wemba the same before he died on stage? noon! let us look outside of Africa! Michael Jackson? Celine Dione? that is normal. Some musicians only produce one memorable album and it is enough. Werra Gave us like five good albums. Without forgetting songs in Wenge like Kalayi Boieng, Coco Madimba. Let us give credit where credit is due. JB Mpiana and Werrason will remain as the faces of Wenge. The word will soon forget Bula and Makaba but not the two guys.

Kester's failure was completely his own fault. He rebuilt a great team after returning from Europe in 1997, but blew it by neglecting them which caused the defections after Longue Historie

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Congolese Music / Re: Your top 20 sebene recommendations
« on: May 21, 2020, 21:17 »
Hold my beer real quick


????????????????????????loooool
Hahaha that's just me being excited to answer the question!

That was pretty impressive!

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