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Congolese Music / Re: Old photo of Lengi Lenga and Nyoka Longo
« on: February 15, 2020, 20:20 »
Songs like Kamangu, Manzaka Ebende many hits.

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Congolese Music / Old photo of Lengi Lenga and Nyoka Longo
« on: February 14, 2020, 11:41 »


I'm guessing the early eighties or mid eighties.

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Its own version. The original Karawa Musica was formed in 1977 by Espérant Kisangani, Jadot le Cambodgien, Bipoli & solist Julva. It disbanded in 1978. It didn’t had any relation with Lutchiana Mobulu, who just used to be simple dancer along with Petit Makambo in the 80s of Viva. Lutchiana just did that to get attention, just the way he claimed to be the original founder of Zaïko when he came to Angola and when he used Luciana Demingongo’s name on his first solo album to launch his career.

I could see why his second name is Mobulu sounds like a trouble  ;D ;D But I never knew he was a dancer in Viva La Musica. I wonder how Nyoka Longo felt when he said he was the founder of Zaïko?

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When Lutchiana re formed Karawa back in 1995 is it the same Karawa that had Esperant and jadot or his own version?

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Mfumu Vata, Willy Bula join Zaiko in January 1997 when Koffi left behind again right ?

Damn I can't imagine how Willy felt after left at Brazzaville. Did Koffi did the same thing to Babia and Lebou Kabuya (if i'm not wrong he was also left behind for the Europe tour of 1997, but he was on the team who participated to the concert in Abidjan which happen before they go to Europe correct me if i'm wrong) ?


The Abidjan concert was labeled as a 1997 concert, but in reality it was 1996 concert. The concert took place somewhere in december 1996, just after releasing Wake Up and it was the last before their farewell concert in Kinshasa. After that they went to Paris to give a concert for christmas or the new year eve (I don't remember since that its already more than 20 years ago) with the whole band having visa's of 1 year long in their pockets. Koffi often use African concerts before tours as test, you will see in the concert of Abidjan, he brought Claudine AC Milan instead of Miette Shegue. In the concert of Nairobi before Madeleine and Olympia, Modogo, Kamono and Binda Bass (he was lucky, that Rocky Blanchard hadn't a visa, otherwise Koffi would bring Blanchard instead of Binda and we wouldn't have heard the song Urgence on Droit de Veto) were absent. The same concerts in Kenya, Zambia, etc. made Koffi decide to bring only Mboshi to Olympia, seeing that he could animate concerts alone. Before Bercy, he went on tour in Cameroon, without Beniko Popolipo and Do Akongo, testing how Bercy would be without them (them accepting it and thinking that it was a way to make the team of Fally, Kusa and co more mature, not knowing that Koffi had a plan against them).

Willy Bula spent some weeks at home, thinking about his future and then decided to join Zaiko Langa Langa. After that Babia Ndonga was contacted by people to join also Zaiko Langa Langa who was looking for new musicians, but he refused and decided to join Anti Choc since that he used to be a big fan of their band in his young days, like many people coming from the N'djili-area where Bozi used to have a big fanbase.

Koffi Olomide was doubting between Do Akongo and Lebou Kabuya, when he was about to tour to Europe, since that he was only bringing 3 guitarists at that time. Do Akongo had at that time never the chance to travel to Quartier Latin, while Lebou already went three times and his relation with Koffi was cold since the death of dancer Mboyo. (alot of things happened when she died, which made Lebou furious. One of the things was that Koffi called his girlfriend of France, saying that Lebou had AIDS like Mboyo, etc. Which didn't please him and leave Quartier Latin for a moment) So Koffi decided to bring Do Akongo, who had also a song in Ultimatum.

Babia Ndonga tought that he would go to Europe, since that he was the biggest star of Quartier Latin at that moment, after the succes of Magie and V12. He was surprised that Koffi picked Bouro over him, who was then just 3 months in the band and not very known. Babia tried to attack Bouro Mpela with a broken beer-bottle when he was, but people stopped him. So he then tried to suicide himself by brinking gasoline and was brought to the hospital.

Goodness, he tried to kill himself over European tour. Reminds of a story of Victoria Eleison back in late 1990 when everyone was ready to go travel to Europe there was a female singer called Denise (Who sang backing vocals in the Palais Du Peuple concert.) But sadly she was left behind and she lost her head because she did not travel. She was singing with Paul Balenza.

Was Denise the girl who of mixed races ? Did she made an interview on youtube? The trip of Victoria Eleison to Europe in 1991, was like they say "voyage ya makambo", Emeneya left Pinos behind (being furious against him, but not having the guts to tell it to him right in his face) and lying to him that he would join them, giving him a fake number and Pinos keeping calling them 1 year long. He wanted also to leave Safro behind, but changed his mind and forced him out along with Santana Mongoley (who fought with Emeneya's bodyguard) when they came in London (female singer Thethe then started to disrespect Safro in presence of Emeneya). This all just to have fully control over the band and the money, but he ended up by getting disrespected by Malembe Chante, Mbuji Mayi and co.

My mum told me she was either the black one or the mixed-race one not sure. But Emeneya was really harsh treating his best friends like that.

Those things often happen in the Congolese music-scene. Look Clan Wenge, they all grew up together in Bandal, but look how they ended up.

About King Kester Emeneya it wasn't a big surprise, because he already had nasty tricks having support from Verckys Kiamuanga (they would end up by falling out), which made most of the guys who were the 12 apostles of Victoria Eleiso, leave the band to  create Victoria Principal. But Victoria Principal wouldn't last long because of Bipoli (he used to be a big clown and messed everything already up in Karawa Musica) with the most ending up by returing to Victoria Eleison, but not having the same rights like in the start. Because they returned like simple musicians, while in the start they were all co-founders (in meantime Emeneya went to the townhall to make from the name Victoria Eleison a registered trademark, making him being the only person to have fully right over the name).

Yeah, Bipoli didn't look serious leading Victoria Principal which made Safro join Choc Stars for a short while.

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Mfumu Vata, Willy Bula join Zaiko in January 1997 when Koffi left behind again right ?

Damn I can't imagine how Willy felt after left at Brazzaville. Did Koffi did the same thing to Babia and Lebou Kabuya (if i'm not wrong he was also left behind for the Europe tour of 1997, but he was on the team who participated to the concert in Abidjan which happen before they go to Europe correct me if i'm wrong) ?


The Abidjan concert was labeled as a 1997 concert, but in reality it was 1996 concert. The concert took place somewhere in december 1996, just after releasing Wake Up and it was the last before their farewell concert in Kinshasa. After that they went to Paris to give a concert for christmas or the new year eve (I don't remember since that its already more than 20 years ago) with the whole band having visa's of 1 year long in their pockets. Koffi often use African concerts before tours as test, you will see in the concert of Abidjan, he brought Claudine AC Milan instead of Miette Shegue. In the concert of Nairobi before Madeleine and Olympia, Modogo, Kamono and Binda Bass (he was lucky, that Rocky Blanchard hadn't a visa, otherwise Koffi would bring Blanchard instead of Binda and we wouldn't have heard the song Urgence on Droit de Veto) were absent. The same concerts in Kenya, Zambia, etc. made Koffi decide to bring only Mboshi to Olympia, seeing that he could animate concerts alone. Before Bercy, he went on tour in Cameroon, without Beniko Popolipo and Do Akongo, testing how Bercy would be without them (them accepting it and thinking that it was a way to make the team of Fally, Kusa and co more mature, not knowing that Koffi had a plan against them).

Willy Bula spent some weeks at home, thinking about his future and then decided to join Zaiko Langa Langa. After that Babia Ndonga was contacted by people to join also Zaiko Langa Langa who was looking for new musicians, but he refused and decided to join Anti Choc since that he used to be a big fan of their band in his young days, like many people coming from the N'djili-area where Bozi used to have a big fanbase.

Koffi Olomide was doubting between Do Akongo and Lebou Kabuya, when he was about to tour to Europe, since that he was only bringing 3 guitarists at that time. Do Akongo had at that time never the chance to travel to Quartier Latin, while Lebou already went three times and his relation with Koffi was cold since the death of dancer Mboyo. (alot of things happened when she died, which made Lebou furious. One of the things was that Koffi called his girlfriend of France, saying that Lebou had AIDS like Mboyo, etc. Which didn't please him and leave Quartier Latin for a moment) So Koffi decided to bring Do Akongo, who had also a song in Ultimatum.

Babia Ndonga tought that he would go to Europe, since that he was the biggest star of Quartier Latin at that moment, after the succes of Magie and V12. He was surprised that Koffi picked Bouro over him, who was then just 3 months in the band and not very known. Babia tried to attack Bouro Mpela with a broken beer-bottle when he was, but people stopped him. So he then tried to suicide himself by brinking gasoline and was brought to the hospital.

Goodness, he tried to kill himself over European tour. Reminds of a story of Victoria Eleison back in late 1990 when everyone was ready to go travel to Europe there was a female singer called Denise (Who sang backing vocals in the Palais Du Peuple concert.) But sadly she was left behind and she lost her head because she did not travel. She was singing with Paul Balenza.

Was Denise the girl who of mixed races ? Did she made an interview on youtube? The trip of Victoria Eleison to Europe in 1991, was like they say "voyage ya makambo", Emeneya left Pinos behind (being furious against him, but not having the guts to tell it to him right in his face) and lying to him that he would join them, giving him a fake number and Pinos keeping calling them 1 year long. He wanted also to leave Safro behind, but changed his mind and forced him out along with Santana Mongoley (who fought with Emeneya's bodyguard) when they came in London (female singer Thethe then started to disrespect Safro in presence of Emeneya). This all just to have fully control over the band and the money, but he ended up by getting disrespected by Malembe Chante, Mbuji Mayi and co.

My mum told me she was either the black one or the mixed-race one not sure. But Emeneya was really harsh treating his best friends like that.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Those things used to happen often in the Congolese music-scene when bands were about to travel to Europe via Brazzaville. Ngadiadia did the same thing to Alpatshino and Djany Fayi, when they were about to travel to Europe via Brazza. Djany Fayi’s ex’wife even divorced from him because of that.



From 30:53 min Djany explaining the whole story

Ngadiadia and Chic Choc Loyenge went to Europe once back in 1997 and the others left to join other groups the European is very scary to know who is going to Europe and who is ending up staying behind.

Ngadiadia, Mangwau, Siatula, Sans Soucis, they were like those bandleaders of Congolese music-scene. Forcing people out, not liking to share money, leaving their employees behind on trips on a very nasty way, etc. Thinking about that, that it isn't a big surpise because most Congolese people function like that, they alot don't like the share money, doesn't support when someone does it better than them and those who having companies don't like to pay their employees. I know someone in Kinshasa who has 6 jeeps at his home and 6 houses in Gombe, Kintambo and Binza, but doesn't pay his employees.

It's not surprising at all, for example, Sans Souci had a fight with Tito and Siatula filmed Kombi Ewuti Poto which sold loads in Europe.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Yeah, but Willy Bula is ungrateful. He ignored Nyoka Longo in his recent interviews, forgetting that it’s because of Zaïko that he’s in Europe.

Yeah, I wasn't really impressed with Willy Bula because he suffered in Kinshasa from 1997-1999.

I always wonder how it would be if Willy Bula returned with Zaiko to Kinshasa, since that Zaiko was in a big dip after Poison, but his song Mbombo'a Mbwa having some succes at the same moment. At least Willy Bula made it to become "Chef de repetition" in Zaiko and Rocky Blanchard also getting a function in Zaiko (what a stupid move from him to return to Quartier Latin along with Beniko, getting a jeep that doesn't work. He had to refuse the offer like Willy).

 ;D ;D It's a shame he wasn't seen on the rest of the poison clips I think Willy Bula would back to square one so Koffi offered Rocky Blanchard a jeep that doesn't work? It made laugh  ;D ;D

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Mfumu Vata, Willy Bula join Zaiko in January 1997 when Koffi left behind again right ?

Damn I can't imagine how Willy felt after left at Brazzaville. Did Koffi did the same thing to Babia and Lebou Kabuya (if i'm not wrong he was also left behind for the Europe tour of 1997, but he was on the team who participated to the concert in Abidjan which happen before they go to Europe correct me if i'm wrong) ?


The Abidjan concert was labeled as a 1997 concert, but in reality it was 1996 concert. The concert took place somewhere in december 1996, just after releasing Wake Up and it was the last before their farewell concert in Kinshasa. After that they went to Paris to give a concert for christmas or the new year eve (I don't remember since that its already more than 20 years ago) with the whole band having visa's of 1 year long in their pockets. Koffi often use African concerts before tours as test, you will see in the concert of Abidjan, he brought Claudine AC Milan instead of Miette Shegue. In the concert of Nairobi before Madeleine and Olympia, Modogo, Kamono and Binda Bass (he was lucky, that Rocky Blanchard hadn't a visa, otherwise Koffi would bring Blanchard instead of Binda and we wouldn't have heard the song Urgence on Droit de Veto) were absent. The same concerts in Kenya, Zambia, etc. made Koffi decide to bring only Mboshi to Olympia, seeing that he could animate concerts alone. Before Bercy, he went on tour in Cameroon, without Beniko Popolipo and Do Akongo, testing how Bercy would be without them (them accepting it and thinking that it was a way to make the team of Fally, Kusa and co more mature, not knowing that Koffi had a plan against them).

Willy Bula spent some weeks at home, thinking about his future and then decided to join Zaiko Langa Langa. After that Babia Ndonga was contacted by people to join also Zaiko Langa Langa who was looking for new musicians, but he refused and decided to join Anti Choc since that he used to be a big fan of their band in his young days, like many people coming from the N'djili-area where Bozi used to have a big fanbase.

Koffi Olomide was doubting between Do Akongo and Lebou Kabuya, when he was about to tour to Europe, since that he was only bringing 3 guitarists at that time. Do Akongo had at that time never the chance to travel to Quartier Latin, while Lebou already went three times and his relation with Koffi was cold since the death of dancer Mboyo. (alot of things happened when she died, which made Lebou furious. One of the things was that Koffi called his girlfriend of France, saying that Lebou had AIDS like Mboyo, etc. Which didn't please him and leave Quartier Latin for a moment) So Koffi decided to bring Do Akongo, who had also a song in Ultimatum.

Babia Ndonga tought that he would go to Europe, since that he was the biggest star of Quartier Latin at that moment, after the succes of Magie and V12. He was surprised that Koffi picked Bouro over him, who was then just 3 months in the band and not very known. Babia tried to attack Bouro Mpela with a broken beer-bottle when he was, but people stopped him. So he then tried to suicide himself by brinking gasoline and was brought to the hospital.

Goodness, he tried to kill himself over European tour. Reminds of a story of Victoria Eleison back in late 1990 when everyone was ready to go travel to Europe there was a female singer called Denise (Who sang backing vocals in the Palais Du Peuple concert.) But sadly she was left behind and she lost her head because she did not travel. She was singing with Paul Balenza.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Yeah, but Willy Bula is ungrateful. He ignored Nyoka Longo in his recent interviews, forgetting that it’s because of Zaïko that he’s in Europe.

Yeah, I wasn't really impressed with Willy Bula because he suffered in Kinshasa from 1997-1999.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Those things used to happen often in the Congolese music-scene when bands were about to travel to Europe via Brazzaville. Ngadiadia did the same thing to Alpatshino and Djany Fayi, when they were about to travel to Europe via Brazza. Djany Fayi’s ex’wife even divorced from him because of that.



From 30:53 min Djany explaining the whole story

Ngadiadia and Chic Choc Loyenge went to Europe once back in 1997 and the others left to join other groups the European is very scary to know who is going to Europe and who is ending up staying behind.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

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This song has some clear connections to Victoria Eleison especially at 0:18 I could imagine King Kester Emeneya doing his famous skating moves on stage and the slightly drunk walk he doe. Also on the vocals Fofana Moulday but if you listen with Eleison ears it's almost like Debaba is singing and Emeneya is directing the band that's what I think.


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This is the first time I've seen the Quartier Latin concert in 1995 Willy's Bula absence on the Magie song is really empty.

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