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Congolese Music / Re: JB MPIANA EXTRACT CLIP ABED ACHOUR
« on: December 10, 2019, 23:46 »
It’s funny how the mabanga cycles goes. For every time period there’s 2-3 guys who are extremely flamboyant And you hear often. Exactly 20 years ago it was Didi Kinuani, Adam Bombole (an Arab @Manzambi), Papito Mabala, Carzodo Muamba, and Etepe Buengo among others.

A lot of them still have their money, but lost the obsession they used to have. Many other guys were wealthy for a short amount of time, then went broke. Despite that, their names are immortalized in hit songs. 

Right now the guys in vogue are Doc Jeff Leteta(“il est vraiment docteur”- Goldberg vice  ;D)Lizarazu Mavambu, Roi Manitou, and this guy
Is/was Papito Mbala a different person from Tchatcho Mbala or that's the same person from Bana Lunda fame?

On those in vogue you left out Ted Tendaie "Maboko banq".

Papito Mbala and Tchatcho Mbala are two different persons. Tchatcho Mbala was Jonas Savimpi's protege from the late 80s until the mid 90s (when the MPLA started to take the diamonds mines of Lunda Norte, Lunda Sul which all went to Didi Kinuani's favor who was then close to Eduardo Dos Santos). Papitsho aka' Papito, sold back in 1995, a record amoung of diamonds. That's why back in 1996 and 1997, JB Mpiana used often to say in concerts "le record de l'annee, c'est Papito Mbala".







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Congolese Music / Re: JB MPIANA EXTRACT CLIP ABED ACHOUR
« on: December 10, 2019, 23:37 »
It’s funny how the mabanga cycles goes. For every time period there’s 2-3 guys who are extremely flamboyant And you hear often. Exactly 20 years ago it was Didi Kinuani, Adam Bombole (an Arab @Manzambi), Papito Mabala, Carzodo Muamba, and Etepe Buengo among others.

A lot of them still have their money, but lost the obsession they used to have. Many other guys were wealthy for a short amount of time, then went broke. Despite that, their names are immortalized in hit songs. 

Right now the guys in vogue are Doc Jeff Leteta(“il est vraiment docteur”- Goldberg vice  ;D)Lizarazu Mavambu, Roi Manitou, and this guy

I thought that Adam Bombole had some jewish blood

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https://www.facebook.com/naelismusic/posts/1378962128957269

The second part of the interview, Tabu Ley talking about his trophees and gold records he received, saying that he doesn't make sense to brag about it (an attack towards Koffi, JB & Werra) because there people who received more than them. He also talked about his Olympia of 1970, saying that he was invited by the Olympia-administration (Bruno Coquatrix and his staff) and he didn't rent the hall like the way the musicians of today (JB, Werra, Koffi) do, to let turn their albums better, adding also that renting Bercy is to expensive. Saying that artists who performed at Bercy made big lose and that he bet that none of those leaders will perform at Bercy again, only musicians of the next generation (which also happened, nor Koffi, Werra, JB, Wemba performed at Bercy again).


I'm surprised to hear what Tabu Ley said about the Bercy-events. I thought that Koffi and Werra made some big money, especially Koffi (Depitcho and JF Ifonge even used to complain about the way Koffi received alot of money and them peannuts), but maybe it was for Koffi's part vital and not the concert-promoter. I only knew that JB Mpiana and Papa Wemba had some problems to rent the Bercy-hall. With Papa Wemba-staff's not knowing what to do, because they wanted to prove Werrason & Koffi Olomide a point that they also could perform at Bercy, looking for a concertpromoter and them finally convincing JDK-Decor, who was in King Kester Emeneya's staff to join their staff and financing their Bercy-project (scamming then the money of Kester's Longue Histoire, being then one of the producers of that album). But costs were to high and to compesate it, JDK brought alot of ngulu's to Europe , which would create alot of problems for him and Wemba, getting then very soon arrested along with Papa Wemba for the ngulu-affaire. About JB Mpiana, I remember that they had problems with renting the hall and the Congolese press who was mostly pro-werra, mocking them. With on some point, rumors being spread   that the event would get cancelled, because of the money to rent not being paid on time. Until that Cardozo Mwamba paid some money and the press mocking JB again, saying that he would perform at bercy with "mbongo ya sangisa, sangisa". Werra's staff used always brag that Monsieur Yann (who orginally wanted to let Werrason perform at Forest National) made alot of money with the Bercy-event.


I'm still waiting for the video of Actu de Net about Bercy. Because they claim that no one filled Bercy in the early 2000s with the 17.000 configuration and not even the 11.000-configuration that Fally will perform very soon. This all made me wonder if Koffi, Papa Wemba, King Kester Emeneya and Werrason then really performed with the 6.000 configuration of Zenith de Paris, because its apparently also possible to perform with a smaller configuration at Zenith. "Selon l’événement, la capacité de la salle peut varier de 2000 à 6200 places grâce à un système de rideaux coulissants".

 Imagine Actu de Net coming with the real numbers and Papa Wemba & JB Mpiana then turning out to have done it better at Bercy than Koffi and Werrason, because of them having performed with a bigger configuration.

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Their relationship isn’t a secret anymore, after that Lewis’s phone got stolen. Koffi fans are attacking him now on internet. Koffi and Aliane will kill him.

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Congolese Music / Re: FERRE CHAIR DE POULE MAUVAIS CHOIX
« on: December 10, 2019, 18:36 »
It’s like he’s asking for forgiveness to Werra in this song.

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Congolese Music / Is this true what are saying about Meje 30 ?
« on: December 10, 2019, 18:35 »





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Congolese Music / Re: That girl died to early...
« on: December 08, 2019, 22:40 »
She died of uterine cancer.

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Congolese Music / Re: That girl died to early...
« on: December 08, 2019, 22:36 »
Men were going crazy for her. Before joining Nouvelle Generation as singer, she used to be model, Koffi even dedicated a song to her, called Djena Top Model. She used also to be a play mate, posing then naked for Playboy-magazines and worked for French tv-channel TF1 She was also close to the circle of Jean-Paul Belmondo who's a famous French actor.

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there wasn't any problem. Roga Roga just wanted to have two songs on Obligatoire to sing by hisself to give the public a preview for on the next Extra Musica-album (La Main Noire) which had  to be Roga Roga's first solo album, but creation of Universal Zangul made him change his mind and give his collegues (Herman, Espe, Rama & Sonor) the opportunity  to put songs on that album, in order to counter Universal Zangul.

Also Horizon 2000 wasn't Extra Musica first rumba. on the first album Nouveaux Missiles, you had the Detresse, followed by Love in Love in Confirmation and later on Hommage (Ouragan) and Villegiature of Etat Major.

Horizon 2000 was meant to have Oxygene as lead singer of the album, but on the last minute Roga Roga decided to give Doudou Copa the role to sing lead on that song and it made Doudou Copa very famous and respected after being years long in the shadow of first Guy Guy Fall, Quetin Moyascko and Herman Ngassaki.

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Yes, it exists. The version Ingenieur uploaded came from VHS of Aime Buanga’s concert at RTNC.

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Wait ... the famous Pierre Cardin that has clothes, shoes, bags, etc, was a music producer?

Yes,









In 1975 she would perform again at l’Olympia, for two days.

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A rare documentary of Abeti Masikini in Paris, being invited as guest for Pierre Cardin’s fashion show (the same Pierre Cardin would produce her first solo album). For people who don’t know Pierre Cardin, Pierre Cardin is a famous fashion designer. In the same documentary she is recording her album and performing at l’Olympia Bruno Coquatrix with the public mostly being white (back in those days hadn’t alot of black people in Paris).

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Congolese Music / Re: Herman Ngassaki had good 5 songs on his name
« on: December 08, 2019, 10:38 »
The Zenith-show was before the recordings of Trop c’est Trop. The Zenith-show was somewhere in February 2001 with the records of that album starting in spring of the same year.

Congolese bands were never recording there albums before big events, except if they were recording in their homeland, which would became more frequent the last years before the combattans-ban, because of the difficulty to get visa’s.

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