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I still get mad when I see these clips some left way too soon after the zenith 2007 tour l( I hope one day that gets uplooaded) but at the same time something was missing in them in terms of charisma and so on compared to the fally generation and the sam generation

I think that that was also one if the reason which demotivated him to promote them. They missed something. With Koffi trying to lure  important musicians of Maison Mere & Wazekwa. But he couldn’t find a Fally in them. Back in 1999, Koffi was by Sam & Bouro’s departure, but Fally made him forget both guys quickly. Because of his work-ethic (which Sam had)and dancing skills (which made Koffi forget Bouro). Then in 2006 and 2007 he hoped to find someone like him, but it didn’t happen.

Actually he was tempted to give joss who fitted the most  the attributes of fally a chance but he kept taking a step back he was always telling jpk,bouboul and co what if i give him a chance and he goes solo like fally since joss only need that to be fair a little extra promotion to what he had in cultura to really reach that level of a  potential solo leader  and when he fell in love with cindy's voice and later.... kiekiekie... he said ok enough with men at least she wont grow desire to go solo like them and wont hurt me like them

yeah, he was giving Joss Diena alot of advantages when Montana left. But before releasing B.E.K. he suddenly changed that strategy and then gave that power to Cindy from the day they performed at Grand Hotel to present B.E.K. The same day he gave Cindy's dad a jeep.


Lol, Koffi said in an interview with Marc Tabu "ba tonton ya poto na ba yaya botikela nga nanu temps naye" if i remember it well. From that day I understanded that she became Mopao's new...… hahahaha. The same year he went to marry journalist Judith 'aka' Magic Wawina with all media of Congo, Africa and it's diaspora talking about that. I wonder what Aliane was thinking about that. Then the press reported the following year that he traditional married Cindy, but that news went quickly quite. I think that they fired the journalist who brought that news...

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@mvulusi96

Quartier Latin was composed of artists who already had a taste for working in a professional group before Koffi incorperated them into his orchestra. Fally Ipupa released an album with Talent Latent back in 1997 while Sam already was making a name for himself with Flash Musica.

A lot of the singers that came after Danger La Mort lacked that strong foundation that his previous singers had. They were just raw talent and Koffi didn't have a good chief of orchestra that could mold them into stars. That's probably why he focused mostly om Cindy, plus that was his lady lol

that's not really true. They had all a strong foundation. Zoe Bella for example, who came from Victoria Eleison and who did already sung on albums like Mboka Mboka, Longue Histoire, made tours in Africa and even co-leaded a band with Sampaio and Guy Moller called Dream Team Dream Band. You had also Pitshou who came of Wenge Tonya Tonya where he had some vocals on Affaire Tonya Tonya. Nguanzu who came from Ahmed Jaan (the guy who was singing excatly like Koffi). They all came from good street bands like the generation of 1999 and that of Suzuki. It was just that there was a "jocker" missing to make the group complete. He didn't had the luck he had in 1999 when Fally came, which made him immediatly forget Bouro Mpela and Sam Tshintu. If Fally didn't came to Quartier Latin then Koffi would still have been nervous, like he would be in 2007. He has been nervous about that 8 years long.


Flash Musica was not a professional band. People are giving that band now credits because alot of future stars came from that band (Rocky Blanchard, Modogo, Suzuki, Lebou, Willy Bula,Sam Tshintu, Sunda Bass, Ngidingongi, etc.). But nobody knew them back in the 80's/90's, only people who came from Binza. It's like Promise Musica in Matonge which had talented artists like Pathy Bass, Mboshi Lipassa, Marcahouse, Polystar Corean, etc. or Lemba Musica with Bogus Bompema, Binda Bass, Bourman Idolo,... Royaume Lifaki with Mamale Tupac, Bouro Mpela... Eden Musica.. Yoka Choc with Manda Chante, Babia Ndonga, Celezino… IBG of Jus d'Ete Mulopwe, Ladins Montana, Titina Al Capone,.... Attraction Babylone with  Patient Kusangila, Ali Mbonda. All those bands were only know in their area. The same with Fally's Talent Latent. People are respecting Talent Latent now, but back in the days people didn't know anything about that band only people coming from Bandalungwa. People just noticed this band 5/4 years ago when the album appeared on the digital platforms.

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I still get mad when I see these clips some left way too soon after the zenith 2007 tour l( I hope one day that gets uplooaded) but at the same time something was missing in them in terms of charisma and so on compared to the fally generation and the sam generation

I think that that was also one if the reason which demotivated him to promote them. They missed something. With Koffi trying to lure  important musicians of Maison Mere & Wazekwa. But he couldn’t find a Fally in them. Back in 1999, Koffi was by Sam & Bouro’s departure, but Fally made him forget both guys quickly. Because of his work-ethic (which Sam had)and dancing skills (which made Koffi forget Bouro). Then in 2006 and 2007 he hoped to find someone like him, but it didn’t happen.

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Wasn’t it that festival of Congo Brazzaville’s 42th independence party at Stade Charlety where they also invited King Kester Emeneya ? I remember that there used to be a little festival in 2000 with Papa Wemba & Nouvelle Ecriture, King Kester Emeneya, Bozi Boziana, Gina Efonge, Général Defao & Depitsho with JF Ifonge there performing on the same stage. Martin Sinnock made an article about that concert on his website. I never saw the videotape of that concert, only an extrat on Wemba sur la route de Bercy.

 I’ve never been at Stade de Charletty. But did they really perform in that stadium. Or did they perform in a complex inside the stadium ? Because don’t remember Werrason hyping about performing there. I remember only him annoucing a concert in that stadium for the summer if 2004 just before they to UK with his staff already making people ready and concert promoter inviting Youssou N’dour, Brenda Fassie, Jacob Desvarieux, Meiway and Mory Kante. But visa problems made them cancel that event. If they really performed inside the stadium was the stadium then soldout like Ségolène Royal meeting there in 2007 ?




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Alain Makaba was fire. I think that this the best sebene of the album. The sebenes of La Vie & Hi Ho Ha New Image were also excellent. I liked the preview of those sebenes Makaba & Masela were giving during the concerts of Kalayi Boeing in Kinshasa. Or that last part of Promesse Bouboule when they were dancing on the sebene of Chouchou des Londres… tika.

Fi-Carre was dangerous also he used then to play the sebene of Heritier Itele during Danico adding that signature of Cresois. It was impossible to sit down. So pity that he hadn't the chance to put that sebene on Anges Adorables. He played it on Pentagone, but it was a little bit different and had less power that the way he was playing it back in 1993 and 1994. On Anges Adorables they gave him only two songs (Capteine de Beneluxe & Masampu). I think that if they gave him more space on that album, that would have played that sebene on Sourire des Vendeurs





I just found sad that we never had the chance to hear the sebene Makaba & Masela were playing during Kin E Bouge. Those reponses Masela was giving to Makaba during that sebene-part were dangerous. He's underated as bassist.

from 6:58 min Makaba & Masela are monsters. The way the performed the sebene at Studio Maman Ngebi was then this one.

I'm looking years for the concert the gave at Studio Maman Ngebi after the release of Kalayi Boeing. It's a shame that we don't have a cultural center in Kinshasa with archives of videos from the 70's until now. The television channels in Kinshasa aren't professional. They use video from youtube to so it to people and you will then see big on the screen DJOMEGADT , IZ Ingenieur or DJ Emilio.

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They should've just named the song Sadam Hussein

Knogulu liked the mystery behind his persona so he wanted the song title specifcally. He also had a strict policy that songs in his name had to have the most powerful sebene and artist had to put a strong effort, or else. Weird guy... nobody shed a tear when he died

Damn. Imagine trying to please someone like him with a sebene-oriented song. What was the threat if they fell short of his impossible standards? Prison? An instant flop?


hahaha don't you heard that story what Saddam did to them when they refused to give Manda Chante's passeport back ? Or the way he forced Koffi to reconcile with Nyoka Longo lol. I'm sure that Wenge 4x4 wouldn't split if Mobutu was still on power. Kongolo Mobutu would force them to stay together and give sanctions. There was a moment that they couldn't perform anymore in Kinshasa back in 1995 just because a girl. The blocked the release of their album Pleins Feux. He used Wenge EL Paris as his puppets to make Wenge 4x4 difficult and he killed the same Wenge EL Paris by blocking them 4 years long in Kinshasa (they hadn't European papers so they couldn't return. He same Kongolo used to facilitate their return to Europe in past) and forbad them to release albums.

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The audio-version seems to be of 1998, before that JF Ifonge joined Quartier Latin. But it look like they the videoclips in 2000, because the way they dance Ndombolo is very different from the way people were dancing it in 1998. I remember that they used to have a group with Depitsho. But I don't see Depitsho dancing with them. So I guess that it was recorded after the departure of Depitsho from AGB Quartier Latin and before JF Ifonge signing with General Dabira which made him settle in Brazzaville and record his solo album Force d'Attack.

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Congolese Music / I couldn't stop laughing about that
« on: October 14, 2018, 14:16 »


from 2:23 min

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY TRICKED COMBATTANTS VERY WELL
« on: October 13, 2018, 20:19 »
fans take the beefs of their artists too seriously at times(assuming this also comes from fans,i also hear it was like that because combattants wanted fally wanted some money to allow him the way they make some pay just to make their shopping in peace in europe,both can be true) ,they should let them deal with the gossip which divides them, their kindoki attacks,their attack and revenge with sidekicks and so on...fans made them who they became because of music not because of their stupid behind the scenes life
fabro is the saddest case,europe concerts could have given his career  a different dimension

yeah, the same for Heritier Watanabe. I think that Fally is able to fill Stade de France on this moment with all those fans in the diaspora and the new public he made recently with Tokooos. It was also the original object with David Monsoh (just before performing there as guest of Kassav before releasing Arsenal des Belles Melodie), to hit Stade de France with a world-album as first African artist, after performing at Olympia, Zenith and Bercy.

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY TRICKED COMBATTANTS VERY WELL
« on: October 13, 2018, 18:54 »
I think that the most of those people were JB-fans. Because Montreal is a city with alot of JB Mpiana fans and most people living there are Baluba. I don’t think that JB will get the same problem. Wait and see...

If Congolese artists and their will continue with this behaviour they wil risk to not perform in Europe until 2023 or maybe even until 2028. London did already 12 years without music and Paris 7 years. An artist like Fabregas didn’t got the chance tour with his bands in Europe and perform at musichall like Bataclan, Elysee Montmarte, Le Grand Rex, Casino de Paris...

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY TRICKED COMBATTANTS VERY WELL
« on: October 13, 2018, 16:26 »
I have not seen videos yet but i saw images which claim combattants came to protest and the concert was meant to be cancelled but they ended up performing elsewhere at the same moment

Werrason used to do the same thing in Germany in 2011. Congolese artists has to use that tactic announcing a concert in Olympia or Zenith and ending up by performing at Cabaret Sauvage or Trianon on the last minute.

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