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Congolese Music / Re: VISION IS OUT
« on: November 20, 2021, 20:08 »
Libanga esalaka elengi moko boye, soki ba bwaki yo.

Papa Cheri be getting these shout outs from young musicians on both sides of the river. #Temognage ya Dodi le talent.

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Congolese Music / Re: VISION IS OUT
« on: November 19, 2021, 17:20 »
Am impressed by the sound, the style. Proper sebenes, not overly slow rumbas. That Medaille D'or song of Papy Bastin is a gem and has a powerful sebene even better than that of the generiques. Ah Papy Bastin, grand compositor et author.

Baudry should not have left that late into the album release. They didn't even have enough time to delete his mabangas in songs such as Maman Mapasa of Kassoul Chalkdri.

Proper album we have gotten so far in the past year or so. 8/10 for me.
Why have Baudri left? I need fact I was looking at the album's thumbnail and wondering why they were only 9 instead of the 10 co-founders
Something in the line of blaming the manager Bebert Etou for his departure and saying Levyson had a valid reason for leaving the group. Here is the interview he did with Hugues Vogel on Fara Fara.

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Congolese Music / Re: VISION IS OUT
« on: November 19, 2021, 16:12 »
Am impressed by the sound, the style. Proper sebenes, not overly slow rumbas. That Medaille D'or song of Papy Bastin is a gem and has a powerful sebene even better than that of the generiques. Ah Papy Bastin, grand compositor et author.

Baudry should not have left that late into the album release. They didn't even have enough time to delete his mabangas in songs such as Maman Mapasa of Kassoul Chalkdri.

Proper album we have gotten so far in the past year or so. 8/10 for me.

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA - NZOTO CLIP
« on: November 13, 2021, 08:18 »
This guy is at the level if he farts and uses it as a sound effect, his fans will love it and say it’s the best song ever. What is this crap? same ol dance and melody….Eloko remix basically. CM stop posting brain dead music lol
:D. When you are at the top, you can only go down.

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Congolese Music / Re: Durrel Loemba & Ado Yuhe
« on: November 08, 2021, 10:41 »
I will take Durell Loemba's version of creation of Extra Musica over any other because he has been consistent. The others always say things to suit themselves or their standing with either camp.

I now understand why Durell sided with Quentin when the split happenned. I heard Roga Roga say in one interview when he was asked as to whom among those who left the group (from the first split) that he regreted seeing them leave and Roga Roga answering saying that he regrets that Durell Loemba left with the others. According to him (Roga), Durell had no better reason to leave and yet Roga and Espe Bass chewed his share of the Guinea trip monies even while knowing that Durell's mother, who was like a mother to Roga and Esperance was seriously sick and Durell probably needed money to sort out the medical expenses.

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Congolese Music / Re: WENGE MAISON MERE SUCKS RIGHT NOW
« on: November 08, 2021, 07:37 »
 Like everybody has aptly put it, its all the groups. Look at Ferre's group or even Fally's group which singer would make you attend their concerts if not for the leaders themselves. Its the same with Extra Musica across the river even the relatively new Nouvel Horizon has no charismatic musicians who are crowd pullers well maybe Zapparo de Gurre is an exception but other than that rien de tout. Sad reality that the genre is going thru.

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Proverbe is for me the best song. The part of Marie singing about Pepe Kalle makes me sad.
Any chance for booklet of this album. I would love to know who is credited for what songs. I know that Dello Bass played bass and Pitchou Santiago as the main soliste. By the way, where is Pitchou Santiago?

Listening to this album and many albums before say 2005, is that if these albums came out today the 5th generation would be non existent. The generiques of nowadays, bazoyeba lisusu te kovandisa solo na sebene, too many "changement de frequence" in the same generique leaving the song with no direction.

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Merci ndeko for this album. I had a new album as my playlist for my Friday morning run. 

First time listening to it and am impressed with the whole album. Ingratitude is my favourite.

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Congolese Music / Re: Elliot Mondobe & Ado Yuhe pt 2
« on: October 28, 2021, 21:27 »
I think Masela would have been more valued on JB's side given how fast he was gotten rid of in the Werra camp or how his opinion never mattered. Its like in Maison Mere that revered role of "fonde de pouvoir" was immaterial.

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Congolese Music / Re: Elliot Mondobe & Ado Yuhe pt 2
« on: October 28, 2021, 11:49 »
Werrason and his strategies :D.
So Shela Mputu was not acceted in the group because Tata had already brought Lacoste fearing that Tata is already building his group within Maison Mere. Also Fally not being accepted because he was told that he is more of a dancer than a singer. Its like Fally identified himself more as a dancer than a singer because i saw an interview were Koffi said,  Fally told him when he was recruited that he can sing but dancing is what he was even better at. ;D

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Congolese Music / Re: Kila Mbongo & Ado Yuhe
« on: October 23, 2021, 09:17 »
It's sad that Universal Zangul imploded from within. In this interview done Papy Bastin says ba petit (Rossen Yaourt and Kerson Saddam) didn't like that he was becoming too influential in the group so they went and lied to Oxygene that Papy Bastin wants to dethrone him as leader leading to him having a bad relationship with Oxygene until that he was fired from the group as Mfumu wrote above.

I like the album Tapis Rouge but the atalaku really tried to sound like Kila Mbongo but failed lamentable. Sans Hypocrise being my favourite rumba of the album Bondo Mania with that little solo guitar at the end.



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Congolese Music / Re: Kila Mbongo & Ado Yuhe
« on: October 17, 2021, 10:42 »
I knew also some guys who tought that Kila Mbongo was the president of Extra Musica. The videoclip of Etat Major and it's album-cover played a major role on it. It's mostly the bandleader or leadsinger who appears alot in the main-generique and the alataku just for a few seconds. 

About Kila Mbongo's departure. Trop c'est Trop is my favorite Extra Musica-album. But it took months for me to like that album. I wasn't used to hear Arafat as lead-atalaku and animating on his own, after hearing Kila Mbongo for 5 years as main-atalaku. Trop c'est Trop even made me hate Arafat's voice for a moment. But it's Africa N1 promotion of Trop c'est Trop that made like the generique and later on the album. I really wonder how that album would have been if Kila participated and also had the opportunity to put a song. All his songs in Extra Musica had some strong messages (Patience and Laissez Passer) despite that they weren't written by him.

I found it weird to not see Kila Mbongo appear in the Shalai-clips that they made in Brazzaville (only in the one who were shoot in Paris). I wonder if they did a 12 on him. This all made me think for years that Kila Mbongo left in Europe and joined them at Zenith, while he returned with to Brazzaville and toured with around Africa. Abilissi didn't appear in any Shalai except the generique. They didn't even shoot a clip for his song Tu Me Manques while was the biggest star among the singers and his song ending up by being one of the main tracks alongside Horizon 2000, Laissez Passer, Matongi and Sissi l'Imperatrice.

Trop Cest Trop is my favourite Extra Musica Zangul album as well.

But between Etat Major and Super Helico, which album do you rate highly?

I personally rate Super Helico higher than Etat Major as an album even though between the generiques Etat Major and Marc 9:23, etat Major was hugely successful across Africa and really made extra musica known, few people outside of the two Congos knew that Etat Major was a release from the group that remained after the split. Am not surprised that Kila said when they heard Marc 9:23 it made them shake and work Extra hard for the next album shalai to really kill the competition.

In Super Helico you had beautiful songs such Ange Panisse of Regis Touba, Amie Tendresse of Pinochet Thiery, Biwela Wela of Mellon Ngakana etc. Its just the sound that I think was poor as compared to Etat Major probably because of different technologies in the studios used.

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Congolese Music / Re: Kila Mbongo & Ado Yuhe
« on: October 17, 2021, 09:29 »
Bro its not just you lol in 1999 i went to christmas or something like that maybe easter,in my mother's family in togo and extra came to perform at stadium president eyadema,and president sent guys on stage to take kila to him thinking he's the leader and gave him a nice enveloppe
roga and espe were looking at each other like they are about to commit murder :D :D :D :D
they switched the note of the dancers sebene about to start so that he sounds off tune when he kicks in with animation
:D :D bato ya sima really suffer in the Congolese groups. No wonder he had no choice but become a singer.

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Congolese Music / Re: Kila Mbongo & Ado Yuhe
« on: October 16, 2021, 09:12 »
Ah Kila Mbongo! When Etat Major came out me and my cousin convinced each other that Kila was the leader of the group. Lol

I now get why singers were leaving extra musica from what Sonor explained that Extra Musica was created primarily by the instrumentist so any singer who becomes too popular is destabilised and end up leaving the group for example Kila,  Doudou Copa, Oxygen etc.

Now Kila has complicated the creation story because from Roga and Durell Loemba, the key three people who were there before  even the thought of Extra came was Espe Bass, Roga and Durell and later joined by Kila and Guy Guy Fall. Am sure we will get Durell Loemba and Guy Guy Fall soon on Ado so we hear their side of story.

Ado repeated that what brand of clothes is this and got asked by Kila whether that's necessary. :D

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The challenge for them now is to keep the group together until that date.
Kkkkkkk that's very true,by that date it might be just 2 old members left, so Roga Roga wasn't entirely the main problem it seems
Lol. Roga Roga could have been the problem but in this world of music the new leaders start behaving like their old leader leading to the departure of those who feel agreaved and the chain continues.

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