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Congolese Music / Re: TEASER ARAFAT FEAT YOUYOU MOBANGUE
« on: July 29, 2021, 12:18 »
Besides that these guys are both excellent the video looks dope, I think we will enjoy this.

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Guys Robinio did not copy the Botswana artist song, before you guys comment you have to put things in context. Robinio reached out to the Botswana guy and asked for permission to sample his melody and the Botswana guy agreed..gave Robinio permission, Robinio only took the melody but everything that made MISU NA MISU the Hook, Verse, Dance, is all Robinio's hard work. like Jay-Z said to Nas So yeah, I sampled your voice, you was using it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song. Misu Na Misu was a hit and took Robinio to bercy that can't be said about the Botswana guy song. i don't know why Congolese like shitting on their musicians .....how is this different to the Hip-Hop art of sampling
all this might be true, I will confirm....... I think the problem is being big headed with your sampled music and calling others finished lol......... All along I thought the Botswana guy stole from him.

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https://mbote.cd/robinio-mundibu-a-une-certaine-periode-je-voulais-diminuer-un-artiste-musicien-congolais-je-me-suis-battu-et-je-lai-fait-il-na-plus-de-succes/posts/67349

He says he set himself the target to ruin a certain artist but ironically says that   now he regrets because that artist is finished
and  that   he can ruin  any artist if he decides to be  on their back,he does not stop  easily until  he succeeds
Is he talking about himself? I sware Congolese leaders sometimes are so childish. Plus since this Afro Congo/Club thing.for Robinio failed big time he did it once by copying a famous sing but it seems people aren't vibing with him like he make it seems
So its Robinio who copied that song from a Botswana artist?? That's sad that guy's Vee Mampizy career was inspired by Congolese music stealing and translating Wenge Cris..... I am sure he was happy though

Yep, I always heard this song




From my Nigerian neighbors and I was like man, this seems like Robinio's song but I could hear it wasn't the same, thanks for telling me the name of the song I had really struggle to find it.
Back to Robinio the Botswana guy's song were published in 16th of February 2019 while Robinio pubblished his version of the song (Plague and steal of the song to me) on the 1st June of 2019





He is really lucky Botswana and Congo are far away countries and the Botswana song for Congolese people is incredibly hard to find, the only guy who spoke about the song being stolen was Prince D'Angola and it is absurd, nor even Deplick or Fabro spoke about Robinio stealing this song despite being the guys with the most beef with him.
This is why I don't like Robinio at all, he wants to bash guys like Ferré (idiotic, so much idiotic in fact I am glad the public turned against him when he did that) and Fabregas for not making views (he is really careful of speaking about Innoss and views cause he knows that that is a battle he could.never win) but at least those guys are original and have their own style while.yes he made a 23 mil song (The Botswana original song is on 9,9 milion) but he made it by stealing so he should not make this type of interviews. From the moment you steal someone's song as an artist, without compensating him or even make a remix with him to me you are finished. He should have done like Diamond did with Innoss, contact the guys who made the song and work with them, from now on all the little respect I had for Robinio is gone and way below zero.
This is really embarrassing, I am disappointed at him hahaha with all the pride he has........ On the other hand these guys wont even sue them or do anything cause it will open people's eyes and in return all of Botswana musicians will die in prison kkkkkkkk they have albums made out of Koffi, Wenge and Extra Musica translations. Let drop the links.

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https://mbote.cd/robinio-mundibu-a-une-certaine-periode-je-voulais-diminuer-un-artiste-musicien-congolais-je-me-suis-battu-et-je-lai-fait-il-na-plus-de-succes/posts/67349

He says he set himself the target to ruin a certain artist but ironically says that   now he regrets because that artist is finished
and  that   he can ruin  any artist if he decides to be  on their back,he does not stop  easily until  he succeeds
Is he talking about himself? I sware Congolese leaders sometimes are so childish. Plus since this Afro Congo/Club thing.for Robinio failed big time he did it once by copying a famous sing but it seems people aren't vibing with him like he make it seems
So its Robinio who copied that song from a Botswana artist?? That's sad that guy's Vee Mampizy career was inspired by Congolese music stealing and translating Wenge Cris..... I am sure he was happy though

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Heritier is pretty close to Fally and Ferre , it is only that he launched his career shortly before Covid and at a time European tours were banned. Imagine Ferre and Fally without European tours? They wouldn't be where they are today, so even as we compare, we need to look at all these factors. Right now it is extremely hard to market any album.
Heritier didn’t launch his career just before Covid, his solo career started in 2015 Covid came 5 years later, and Heritier already had an album out, so that’s not the best excuse to use there also Covid affected everyone not just Heritier
kkkkkkkk true, he just has to put in more work.

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Besides crappy cinematography Nouvel Horizon is worth it.......... Zaparo is really good, FBI seems to be lacking confidence causing them to not have that duet chemistry, I wish they could bring Biraman.

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Personally I don't think he is far from Ferre cause his generiques are much much better, just more effort on promoting it will be a different story. Fally level is a bit tricky cause he dis always upto something and touches different things.

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To me ut proves how lonely this genre would lonely be without Koffi Olomide, Felix Wazekwa has a power strategy his manager should do something........ Again I prefer Mumpe.

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The last atalaku is my fav

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interesting question,in the past,it used to be musicians who are very eager to prove themselves who come with almost ready generiques on which leaders would just make adjustment along with instrumentists
nowadays its more and more leaders who buy a couple of generiques or shapes of generique,then give animation to their main atalaku then share to others
yeah atalakus still do create or still do get from people,but lets be honest the animation section has gotten veryyyyyyyy lazy
all most atalakus are able to do in case leader does not have anything planned and they are forced to offer something of their own is sexual animation,the new trick they found so that people do not always figure easily is pretending to be talking about food
even some of the rare who still have strong work ethic like my guy genta do that seeing that it works often more that elaborated animation about a story or a social phenomenon
also some leaders deliberately limit their atalakus for various reasons,for example wazekwa no room for sexual animation,or other artist who for example had one hit doing a certain style then forcing their atalakus to style to that style for ever,like lacoste who keeps trying bonioma everytime,while recording proper generiques then sending it to trash,fabregas limiting more and more his atalakus  into the agwaya style or its kinda derivate he defines as his own style
Profound, now I think get it.......... Its hard to work under all those guidelines. It looks a bit different at BCBG just that they all forgot directions to the studio.

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I'm not Congolese so maybe I don't have my say in this disscussion.
But I don't understand this need of domination in music from Congolese people in regards to rumba and sebene....

Of course this genre of music was the most popular once upon a time (and I still love it) but things change, evolve sometimes.

It's like people who were listening to jazz music or reggae, and still want it to be the number one music in the world and disregard any other types of music which came after theirs (RnB, Hip-Hop for example).

Congolese music is live music, concerts, true instrumentalists, amazing singers...

Today with autotune, digital beats,  everyone wants and can have a career in music... Other countries have developed, have grown economically, and want their culture, language to shine.

But if you guys have noticed, when a new African artist  wants to be taken seriously, she or he will pay homage to Congolese artists who made Africa and other continents dance.
Very true......... Personally I do not really mind about dominance, they have had their share and they were super triumphant in their days. My worry is in the Lukewarm generiques they release........ The songs keep getting weaker that some of them they don't even sing the new songs in concerts.............. I am not saying Frabos Lokolo is a bad song, but the energy that is being channeled to it mmmmm, Koffi's Dance yaba congolais,Felix Wazekwa New generique

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The genre is in ICU (Intensive Care Unit) what is keeping it alive is the mastery of performing live music at concerts and that is still happening thanks to the deep rooted practice that has been passed on from generation to generation. The day even these artists who are doing crossover albums start prioritizing playbacks over live performance is the day we will organise an official funeral to put the genre to its final resting place.
kkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkk

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I think so but also good soloists who are allowed to express themselves and create new danceable licks
yeah true so I think its combination of these two.......... Cause Bikorino is good but he can't do anything at WMM without an aggressive atalaku.

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