I noticed that many members left Zaiko because of Adamo and Doudou Adoula even dancers left because of them.

Fondation Empire was so lucky man. Papa Wemba being arrested for the ngulu-affair and them arriving the next day. It's a shame that their tour was a big flop and the whole band including the leader ending up by staying in Europe. Their were some short extracts of their concert at Cabaret Sauvage on youtube, but theyr dissapeard. But if Dominique Mabwa traveled with them. How did he end up in Kinshasa ? Was he deported ? Because he suffers alot in Kinshasa, every two years there something with him on youtube.

About Simolo lying, most musicians are always like that. Because in other interviews he never said that Tolin brought them to Quartier Latin and when Tolin exposed him, he changed his version. But I don't see why Ado Yuhe makes a big deal about Simolo being a mbonda player. Some drummers in 80s used to play both rols playing mbonda and drums. But if I remember well, Nseka once said that when he joined, that he replaced Simolo as mbonda-player when leaving Dynamique Asha. About Quartier Latin of that era, I only knew the late Yoto Nkelani "Delta Force"  who used the play lead, Do Akongo and Fofo le Collegien. Because of their career in other bands and Yoto being from Lemba. I never noticed Simolo, I started to know Simolo only when he replaced Awilo in Nouvelle Generation as drummer. Only years later I discovered that he used to play in Maray Maray's Rumba Ray as mbonda player.

I went to search his name and man, It Is sad

R.I.P.

Sad to see him fine R.I.P. About the journalists not respecting the death of People. Guys It Is Congo, still the poorest country in the world even if South Sudan Is quickly.toppimg that, people are either super Rich the minority or extra poor so what do poor people do? Everything to get some Money, Is the same psychologg behind kindoki and being ready to Sacrifice your own family.member to est.

He says he had a great start in light music where things were flowing but in the last years things changed,nolly asked whether its true that he gave dances to the group and he confirmed that pretty much most of the main dances of the group were his,ofcourse he is a mbonda player but God blessed him with dancing talent aswell
he says he had high hopes for this tour,because in kinshasa despite being the chef d'orchestre he was struggleing so hard that he could not even pay rent so he had to go back to live with his parents while people recognize him easily in streets and gather around when he goes out,and being a mbonda player he could not give shoutouts which could help him on the side with the salary issues,salary which comes once in a while and which singers make double or triple in vip concerts of kin
 and in most concerts as a chef after concert fabro would give him 50 dollars or 100 dollars to share among the whole group as transport fee and he could not steal it to resolve his own problems
so when they arrived in europe he had the target of making enough money to get a house again and help out his family
but when they arrived they got pretty much locked up and he only had 70 euros with him,maybe if they were allowed freedom to go to see mabanga customers and donors  he could have gone back but in these conditions he had to think twice
he knows he surely hurt fabregas in making him lose one of his top contributors but  he had to see the bigger picture because it would not be a good look even for him fabregas if he returned like he was with 70 euros no new clothes,nothing
when asked for something he can say to fabregas he is lost for words for a moment then says he does not see what he can say because whatever he says villanova fans are already angry at them for leaving so it will be badly interpreted

It was evident he was the mai choreographer of Villanova I think that the Group Album got Famous too because of his dances with that said Fabregas Is young but he Is thinking like an old leader, Heritier, Deplick, Innoss, Ferrè and even Fally pay their employees yes not much but even 100 dollars a month in Kin can be something rather than anything, plus why always mistreat mbonda players? If you can't give them the chance like Artists Who are spingerà Just don't use them, I hope I can work with Kenyen in the future t'ho the guy Is talented.

Zaparo is diversifying...doing falsetto animations in the beginning....also happy to see Zaparo welcome FBI. They'll be bad together is ego doesn't come in

Naaah,Zaparo was mature Enough ti understand he needed a second atalaku and took FBI whom I knew earlier but didn't know his name.was FBI you can see him here with Yves Saint Laizare his leader Who died even then he had a lot of talent



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His stage presence got way Better and his voice too

I understood what derailed Celeo's career, biloba-loba and trustijg the wrong people. I mean what he expected by supporting Koffi? When I saw him doing that I was like... Why? And then he should.have never talked about Koffi in this interview he should have Just promoter the album, he still didn't understood that being quiet Is Better than speak a thousands words. That Is the game that Werra and especially Ferrè and Fally have mastered so good. When Celeo had beefs with Fally, Fally never talked once about Celeo but he sento his group members to diss him lowkey. Celeo still thinks like an employee and not like a leader with that said. Celeo just Need to hire a Press Office or Someone Who can tell him what to Say or not.to say, that Is how most Western Artists avoid controversy, even Jordan Kusa understood this when he got reached by Ndombohlinl, being silent and letting his people handle It. Even if It Is too late already Celeo should Just think twice before mailing interviews attacking someone

another interview he says he came to france for private reasons(papers surely) but also is using that opportunity to plan on their tour in europe in june with label and producers,and that he did not come alone because he is "the leader" but because he had reasons to come,and that ramatoulaye will come with him next month with him to continue planning after ulrich tells him  that he might be egoistic because when roga comes to france he comes with espe bass,he does not see himself as  a supreme leader above of the rest but as a simple chef d'orchestre who coordonates things and who has been trusted by the co founders(ramatoulaye,levyson,obama,dodi le talent,dido senga,kassoul) to handle that role and that they dont need president role(president role was destined to espe bass if he did not change his mind after talking with roga)
he talked about kassoul saying its very sad for him because he loved kassoul like a little brother(i think he even lived with him in early zangul days  and was a great friend of his wife chella) and he is almost lost for words when continuing to talk about him
 ulrich keteur teased him several times about roga roga, for example about how he talked " bad" of him when they left and he says he actually did not say everything but he had to give a rather honest answer when he was asked he could not pretend it was all good anymore like when he was in zangul,but anyways he's moved on and he is focused on nouvel horizon
he is also teased again about the fact roga taught him guitar which he always like to adress that all the extra musica guitarists have the same master leo bvegadzi,but indeed roga being more experienced gave him some help to step his game up
 he is asked about bokoko whether he listened  to it he said yeah of course its a good thing for roga and ulrich tries teasing him again that they did not promote vision anymore because bokoko has overshone the whole congolese music and he says he is surprised to hear it from a professional journalist,to which ulrich says he asked question coming from fans,and sonor says he does not buy into that logic of when an artist has a big hit it kills the other artists there is room for anybody one artist having success does not block way for others it can happen sometimes that a second becomes a big hit  but its never something which will paralyse a whole music for years
if anything he is actually proud that roga has a hit,it only helps congo on the african musical map is roga is doing well,them well,kevin mbouande,doudou and co,the more there is artists doing well the more powerful congolese music will be in africa
he got finally asked about vision at some point and was relieved because he tried several times already to bring back focus on nouvel horizon and vision and he says its a good album and that he does not have 4 songs out the 13 because he is the leader or because he is the best of them but he is a writer and it happened that 4 of his songs made the cut during the selection,and he is asked how many songs he has in his career in zangul he says n'julie,gyrophare and rosalin but that many other songs were his but credited to other people
 and that despite him having 4 songs he did not put a different energy on it as arranger he gave his best on all songs like they are his just like the singers gave their best on his songs

What were the reasons of Espe Basso not going to ENH and staying with Roga? Plus December have passed and the album by Espe Basso which Roga promosse in the Bokoko album still didn't come. Why Espe Is so loyal to Roga? I don't get It, I don't even think he gets paid that much like Kinens, JDL, or all of the other Number twos in various Congolese groups

Werrason suspended Sankara indefinitely for what he said against Ferre over dynaste project. As we speak, Sankara is as good as a Fally guy now as he does not take part in any WMMM activity.

As fans we have less control over how things unfold, let us see how it goes. No one thought Werra could share a stage with JB but it happened. I personally don't take their differences to heart, all I want is to derive great utility seeing them work together as artists.

 

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The problem with werra and ferre is that they have a similar trait which is huge pride,so even if things are calm now each on his side wants the other to make the step,and its expected even more on ferre,who by pride again refuses to make a move which will seem to him like opportunist move,like all the pain he went throught can be blown away like that
if ferre makes the step it will be "easy" and in no time we could see nsone explaining to people in every interview how great ferre is,but ferre also wants his share of proper apology to make that extra step further
the thing is that in most congolese beefs harm done is only portrayed as one sided,99 per cent of the non ferre fans will tell you that all was just perfect and ferre like a fool came and repeatedly disrespected werra(just like many ferre fans will say werra gave ferre a continious torrid time behind the scenes and on air through sankara and co),we dont really have that ability of fair judgement its always has to be one swallowing his pride  and shutting up to make "reconciliations" happen,never a honest assessement of mutual failures
ferre and werra like two people who still love each other but are too proud of making the step and just are letting things go by and watching,as long as each of them is alive
but they must realise that death can surprise them i hope they act before something happens
i hope too unfortunately some of the top top OG maison mere influential are dead otherwise they could have hold a secrete meeting like the way they used to do with jb nobody could even imagine in their craziest dreams what was happening until nsone's accident and the time factor and rise of fally ferre beef forced them to admit

Archos but we have to be completely honest tho. No One predicted the immense successo Ferrè would have and as you said parte of the reasons why he Is not as successful as Fally Is because Maison Mere Cmap and especially Werra Always tried to diminish him. Plus Ferrè After Al la Queue Lei Lei his last album in Wenge, was broke, treated bad because he left Werra and got not.paid Enough what he worth, and the nail on the coffin was Sankara insulting Ferrè's mother and never apologizing to her since now unfortunately She Is dead, now be in Ferrè's mind for a second, If I was him if Werra doesn't kneel, I don't care of he gives me 1 mil dollars ti reconcile, I won't. I won't go, I night take.the Money but won't go, because what Werra and Sankara did.is so wrong, plus the way Sankara praises Fally, you would.think Fally was a Maison Mere.member, but I had never seen those praises for Ferrè, yes now Werra Is on that Mumpe.mode, saying Tolingana etc. But nei Tolingana? You let that clown insult.ky.mother and want me ti Say Tolingana here Tolingana there, so I think that Werra Is to blame, and if Werra doesn't kneel ti Ferrè as I have said then yes Ferrè can miss the reuniom he got bigger things to do and he also turned out to be the best outside of that Maison Mere Camp so te.

About Sankara, have he left? I didn't expected him to be butthurt about a suspension, I hope this won't turn into a Zobozi 2 situation, because that would be ugly.

That's weird, he sings way Better than his Quartier Latin days. I don't know if It Is autotune or proper training, but comparse to his Generation Bercy vocale, with that says for answering Mfumu Vata's questione. Bro, It can be two things he either bought the views which can be the case because It has 2000 comments only or It can be that he used Google ADS Who gives you an automatic minimum of views but they are legit