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I know bits and pieces are correct, but I’d like to have this fact checked overall



Is that really true?

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the mabanga shit is stupid why cant these people name be written in the cd booklet or something lol why do I have to hear Heritier Itele, Lorenzo etc name and sometimes make songs a little intolerable like on Eternellement,Ligne 11 and more
Cause that's how they make money, a random guy named El Double Kamidiora Francisco Mujinga Mulamba Madiola gives you 1000 dollars to sing his name, what you finna do? And when the Mulamba Madiola becomes a 100 and all give between 1000 and 5000 dollars what you will do refusing? If Internet was wide spread in Congo and there weren't so much piracy on Congolese music we wouldn't hear Mabangas, anyway to me what kill the genre was this obsession in following Nigerian for Older artists and to just make Rhumba like the young guys are doing, I can listen to Deplick crying one a week but not a whole year of him and But Na Fillet crying about their exes

2133
Guys given that this is a Brazzaville Atalaku, what do you think of Si Vitesse and Ando Andoche? The Atalakus of Riga Dogs

Here some songs they have made togheter Andoche is the one with a missing teeth singing at 00:42

Si Vitesse is the guy at 2:55



They really sounds good togheter here it is the other générique where they have worked togheter






Gotta admit that here Doudou Copa animated excellently and the whole song is really good it is in underrated tune


Here at 00:19 Andoche animates the whole song alone I like this tune you can hear that the guitar is really.Kinshasa based especially at 2:27 and at 2:32


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Lol. Musicians really thinks the grass is greener on the other side lol, did he forgot who Roga is? If Sonor, Levyson (who is his cousin of blood) Arafat, Papy Baston, Doudou Copa, Herman Ngassaki and many others who have left Extra because of Roga what makes him think he will be different from other people, plus Rolly Jeune Drummer Sans Alcohol is still there so he won't be anything more then a backup drummer given that Rolly is way more talented then him, I don't understand leaving Kevin Mbouande yes he is not as known as Roga Dogs or Nouvel Horizon but bro Roga Dogs ain't your friend. I gave him a year, he will be like Zaparo De Guerre that first will do praise cries like this

5:25


"Yaya Roga batonga yo mingi e, Roga Missile batonga yo mingi oyoyo, yomoto yosalisa bango bakoma ba mvuam'e soki te bakata lay" which means Elder Roga (Yaya is a form of saying Big Brother or older Brother in Congolese culture, and then he proceeds with saying Elder Roga they laughed at you/they insulted you a lot Roga Rocket they have laughed about you a lot, even though you are the one who made them who they are now, and that's why now they are the bosses, is because of your formation that they became bosses, otherwise they wouldn't even have the money to buy credit for their phone"

To these cries 4:18



"Tat'oyo omesanaka kolia namutoki ya ba ninga
Mosala na yo komatela mukongo ya ba ninga (pona) yo Mvuama ee
Basalelaka yo e? lelo ba timbeli yo
Zaparo abuaka po yo oliae? Lelo ba timbeli yo
Oganyaka facilement ee? Lelo batimbeli yo"

"This Papa is used to eat with the sweat of others, your job is to climb on the back of others(because) you are the boss?
They used to worked for you in the past? Now they have refused you/They have mutined
Zaparo sing the names of the people who liked him and you because you could eat? Now they have refused you/They have mutined
You used to eat and earn really easily? Now they have refused you/They have mutined


Lol if you know Lingala and also know the history between Riga and his colleagues you could find endless cries/banter and insults against Roga Dogs even if NH is really a recent group lol


This Patrouille Des Stars ex drummer trust me he will be doing a Zaparo turn really soon.

And I thought Kinshasa music scene was cut throat! It seems like Extra Musica has the entire country of Brazza on lock, because I'm certain there's a lot of talent there

Yes Extra Musical's brand is too powerful for.someone from Brazza to surpass or even come close to them, there are many Brazzavillian artists who try to do music and some have completely failed like Arafat, Herman Ngassaki, Papy Bastien, Papy Jah and others struggle to stay afloat and/or are way lower in the rank of likeness and fame of extra ike Levyson, Doudou Copa who has been solo for years but.that hasn't managed to produce nothing more then some really solid Rhumbas and some solid albums (Menù), YouYou Mobange, Kevin Mbouande, Durell Louemba etc. Brazzavillian people really don't take music as seriously like Kinshasa Congoleses do and solo Brazzaville artist unlike Extra (Who have a huuuge fanbase in West Africa especially in Ivory Coast where is even bigger then Wenge MM and is only.matched by Koffi and.maybe Fally) they really struggle to eat off of their music, even Doudou Copa who gets 28 k to 40k a show and have multiple donors and even an investment group funding him can't come.close to Extra's status in term of branding and fame.
The only guys that I can think of who had hits are Kevin Mbouande with the Générique Matakara and Deuxième Monde






Lol is this the same Amisxa Prod who was trying to get Sima C'est Bon of Deplick? Now I understand why other than Deplick even Kevin Mbouande stopped working with him


And then after Kevin's hits there have been this song of YouYou Mobange who had made major records

At 1:06 with NWE taking the dance and giving the video Milions of views and Doudou Copa who had made an incredible successful Rhumba



Pondu Ya Libondo in his album menu

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Congolese Music / Re: Ado Yuhe & Nathalie Makoma
« on: May 16, 2021, 22:17 »


One of the most controversial gospel artists in an era where scandals like the Mike Kalambay one or the many pasteurs and Soeur en Christ would have never survived that type of scandal and shame since church people really hated (at the time) people who crossed into "Miziki ya Mokili" and didn't live up to the Christian values plus this pic of her with a Breasts exposed to mimick the Superbowl incident that happened with Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson was the straw on her Gospel career.





If she had never left the Christian world.tbh I think she would have not had any problem reaching 20 mil per song given how she was the star and the most popular singer of.her Family Gospel group Makoma, I still remember when I was little, man Makoma really had everybody, from the older person to the kid who don't care about Church still stay there still my favourite song from them I suggest like many others is "Natamboli".


Man the emotions and the feeling this song give me not.even a Werra son can do that.
What I really loved about them and I have tried unconsciously to put in my life as well is the tightness they had between them as a family is something that I try to pass to my lil brother and my lil cousins, always staying togheter as a family and succeding togheter.

Despite all the potential of a Gospel career I think Nathalie Makoma left the Gospel world because like.many people who grew up in Church and especially like.many females.who grew up in Congolese houses she kinda rebelled to all that pressure of being s Means Malamu and do the Church things, it didn't turned well because given the fact that she was famous in the Diaspora and not famous among Dutch and Belgians the audience where she could have had a good solo career, she became that girl who is in the industry but never went anywhere

Here is her exhibition of Belgium's Got Talent





 and tbh to se her going through the Judges opinion despite being positive reviews it is kinda sad if you had grown up with that Makoma myth, I will watch the interview tomorrow coming from work to see if she will address the nude controversy the fact of leaving Gospel for "Miziki ya Mokili" and if she will speak also of her marriage and of what her other brothers and sisters do.








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Wow @Manzambi bro may you please translate Nouvel Horizon new generique for me, please I don't understand the language at all (I need to know what they are saying on the Monyato part)
Yes bro can you link the genrique here please?

2137
Lol. Musicians really thinks the grass is greener on the other side lol, did he forgot who Roga is? If Sonor, Levyson (who is his cousin of blood) Arafat, Papy Baston, Doudou Copa, Herman Ngassaki and many others who have left Extra because of Roga what makes him think he will be different from other people, plus Rolly Jeune Drummer Sans Alcohol is still there so he won't be anything more then a backup drummer given that Rolly is way more talented then him, I don't understand leaving Kevin Mbouande yes he is not as known as Roga Dogs or Nouvel Horizon but bro Roga Dogs ain't your friend. I gave him a year, he will be like Zaparo De Guerre that first will do praise cries like this

5:25


"Yaya Roga batonga yo mingi e, Roga Missile batonga yo mingi oyoyo, yomoto yosalisa bango bakoma ba mvuam'e soki te bakata lay" which means Elder Roga (Yaya is a form of saying Big Brother or older Brother in Congolese culture, and then he proceeds with saying Elder Roga they laughed at you/they insulted you a lot Roga Rocket they have laughed about you a lot, even though you are the one who made them who they are now, and that's why now they are the bosses, is because of your formation that they became bosses, otherwise they wouldn't even have the money to buy credit for their phone"

To these cries 4:18



"Tat'oyo omesanaka kolia namutoki ya ba ninga
Mosala na yo komatela mukongo ya ba ninga (pona) yo Mvuama ee
Basalelaka yo e? lelo ba timbeli yo
Zaparo abuaka po yo oliae? Lelo ba timbeli yo
Oganyaka facilement ee? Lelo batimbeli yo"

"This Papa is used to eat with the sweat of others, your job is to climb on the back of others(because) you are the boss?
They used to worked for you in the past? Now they have refused you/They have mutined
Zaparo sing the names of the people who liked him and you because you could eat? Now they have refused you/They have mutined
You used to eat and earn really easily? Now they have refused you/They have mutined


Lol if you know Lingala and also know the history between Riga and his colleagues you could find endless cries/banter and insults against Roga Dogs even if NH is really a recent group lol


This Patrouille Des Stars ex drummer trust me he will be doing a Zaparo turn really soon.

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Congolese Music / Re: RAYVANNY FEAT INNOSS B KELEBE
« on: May 14, 2021, 15:58 »


Mmmmm Innoooooooosss, noooooooo this Jan huh, petit oyo Abeti fooooort, man Tanzania and Congo should unite their music alone is great and United there are always good jams

2139
Its possible him and wazekwa had a very special bond joss knows his family more than any member maybe eclipse now,knows many secrets like his wife,powerful women who tried the best to be with him and so on
if he left like 6 month later he'd have been given access to one of wazekwa's accounts to pay musicians(and of course a big amount would be there so that it  keeps paying 30 plus members for a while without ever going down
not many leaders would do that and let their musicians see a bigger amount that what they'll  receive

Why did Joss wasted away all of this? I mean he should have chosen a side and stick to the Koffi the hardest, to be honest he is not someone made for solo career for me he should be like Kakol, or Seguin those guys who are powerful in-groups because the boss likes them and never leave the band

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Congolese Music / MY GOD, CHAI...
« on: May 13, 2021, 11:50 »


This is a loving proof that you never have to use Choko for whatever reason, it is so sad to see how a beautiful and talented singer like him looks right now

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I'll send you the samples and VST links if you want

Sure Bro

2142
I found these:

1. Roland TR-707 (1985): This one has been used by many artists, mainly Bozi Boziana who made multiple album with this sequencer





Zongela Ngai by Bozi Boziana (1989)



Operation Quatre by Madilu System (1992), featured in the full album



Dodo La Rose by Wenge Musica (1988), yes it's not featured in the whole song, but listen from 3:36 - those toms and claps are from the TR-707.

2. Yamaha R8 (or R8M) - (1989): I found this after Drumstar98 posted Shak Shakembo's debut album. I think this is one was used in Studio Ndiaye.





Show Time by Empire Bakuba (1996)

3. Simmons SDS-V (1981): The legendary toms we hear in the Pas de Faux Pas album





Étage Ya Suka by Quartier Latin (1992)



Thanks bro as a keyboard artist myself I need these infos

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i think it could also be the radical drop of tshoko,there is one artist of the 5th  generation who once was a very strong tchokoman one day he made an interview gone quite black as he had stopped  gradually over the years he looked about ten years older then he started getting a bit lighter again until today with skincare stuff without it necessarily being bleaching stuff
jf's age mate depitcho still looks young with that skin

Is that Chai? Anyway I don't know why African people feel the need to bleach, like what are they trying to achieve? You aren't white and you will never be

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I am sure hed be using it to roast heritier over his legs

Usually when you are already skinny and do a lot of cardio, your legs will be the first to be really skinny as well, anyway bro how can he train to a Rhumba? I can't train if I don't have a générique on my headphones

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Brother Archos.... What is wrong with our guy JF? People will look him at a clown if he keep doing stuff like this, he is becoming like a religious Sankara

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