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Congolese Music / Re: INNOSS B DROPPING A NEW SONG TOMORROW
« on: July 27, 2020, 17:51 »
Fally has been quite since those 100 milion views dropped, he knows he would be destroyed if people will go for him for his low views generique on Allo Telephome.

I am curious to see what insult Bill Clinton and all the Innoss haters will use

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Congolese Music / Re: METRO EFFACE LIVE ACOUSTIQUE AUDIO
« on: July 27, 2020, 17:49 »
My favorite singer...







See this is the problem with BCBG members, beside fans who is gonna check an acoustique without a live video? That is not the way to go Metrau, his voice is superb but he really needs to start hiring a pubblicist or some

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definitely different,either a stronger clash than that or more mutual respect,congolese leaders really respect you when you are doing well in solo,when you are not  its not the same,for example fally and ferre(and their guys) can do whatever they want in public when they sit at home  they know the two are the guys who gave a chance to a younger generation to exist after wenge 4X4.and both of them would not be bothered much about state of their public relationship to their ex bandmates but their relationship with stars doing really well is under scrutiny,they either assume having bad relationship with other big star which would have collateral buzz effect or they will "overpolish" the relationship with the other star  for good image too
i think the situation of celeo and fally looks like something which happens every year all around the world,two friends one going up in his life seriously then becoming big headed or seen as that,the other one turned either naturally as a jealous guy or influenced to become jealous by people constantly comparing their lives and installing inferiority complex in him,or being portrayed as a jealous because he does not bow to the more succesful friend
this reminds me of a cameroonian workmate who had suddenly won something like 500K euros in lottery and completely changed,for him his "new level" was being friend with white people only from paris rich areas and was refusing to even look at us or shake our hands when we saw and he got conned in a business with a guy and now  he is doing ubereats delivery(not mocking his downfall let alone saying delivery is a shameful job) and he is the guy calling us to call chill with us in weekends
goes to show how hard it can be to maintain perfect friendship when social status gets too involved and badly handled

I just think it is bound to the person there is a quote who says Money doesn't change you it makes you become more of what you already are, for example check Mukulu, yes in the PPU era he was not the best person to be around but now he treats everybody with respect from the first singer to the mbonda player he funded most of his ex members career and on the low even non BCBG members like Deplick on the other hand you have Fally who yes he is wealthy and all but never produced anything like Koffi V12, Loi or JB's TH but treats his employees except Kabuya and the other Atalakus, Willy Zola amd his female dancers like shit, beefing with Celeo when he doesn't even need to, can't handle criticism, and believe that he is alwas right as you see same situatom different results it is not the money it is the person, a lot of people who are poor are nice but wait until they see the money for the first time and you will see their true colours

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Congolese Music / FALLY NEEDS TO BE HONEST...
« on: July 27, 2020, 09:46 »


It has been a month since Allo Telephone got released and it only has 4,5 mln views if this was Werra, JB, Felix or any other Congolese star outside of Koffi and Innoss this would be great numbers but for Fally this is really bad, for the first time Kabuya looked bad (I mean musically) on a Fally generique and the views aren't carcking up, I have even seen some faces who weren't happy in the video which can give confirmation to the rumour of many of Fally's musicians wanting to leave. I think Fally needa to sit down and ask to himself what is not working, I think that other than Alvarito going, his composers (I mean musicians who make the instrumentals) aren't motivated enough and purposely sabotage him, because even Ecole wasn't this bad of a song, furthermore with all the love I have for Celeo Fally shouldn't beef with him, is like Cristiano Ronaldi beefing with Andre' Silva Fally is really high onthe value cale amd he shouldn't be so much involved in dissing Celeo because as Celeo, Fabregas, Heritier, Djino, Abraham, Abel and many other artists who have tried (and in some cases succeeded in other case didn't) beefing with someone only bring negative energy to your band, Fabregas and Heritier could be higher up on Congolese music if they didn't respectively beefed with Fally and Werra, so Fally should do the same and focus on his music because he is not indipendent like Koffi or Werra and he has a label who is waiting results from him amd bringing a 4.5 mln generique when you have Elok'Oyo at 60 mln is not gonna look good

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Congolese Music / Re: Wenge Pusana Tovanda Live
« on: July 27, 2020, 09:37 »
Why Mogratana was that underrated by Werra? he was not given the number one spot after the departure of Kapaya, was he not creative enough?

I think is the fact that he was not playing with the same speed and aggressiveness of Kapaya and even when he tries his best he plays good but no where near the level of Wenge and if you check all his composition is pretty much the same strings and or strings that are very easy and not searched and complicated enough, this is why Werra never liked him, similar with Lobeso you can't make mongo music (which is known for his slow pace) within a fast paced group like Wenge
8:54

1:24

0:33


Here he sings pretty much all the song with a small partecpiation by Bercy




Listen to the difference between clearly Mongo inspired songs and his Wenge Uptempo crie Musselu
08:21







4:15


Lobeso would have been greater if he went with Koffi who is known for loving Mongo songs (asomba tukutuku is actually a generique by Mabele Elisi revisited) and slow tempo, the only time Lobeso tried to make a crie within the style.of Wenge Musica Maison Mere he made Musselu that to me is one of the best crie post KoYimbi Ko along with Le Le Le for the beauty of the composition





Mogratana is better suited as a second guitar or the Mi-Solo who follows the instruction of the soloist the way he was doing when Kapaya was there for example in the Mussellu case he did a great job following Makaba


1:10
Like in this case then check at the 5:30 when they switch guitars and Mogratana become the soloist he still plays it like a Mi-Solo despite being a solo guitar that is why Werra never sponsirized him like with Kapaya

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On Twitter it was posted on there and Didi Stone saw it.

And she deleted pictures of her and Koffi and unfollowed him. That's what I saw from people who follow her saying.

Looked at Didi's tweets and she's saying she's tired of the humiliations. It's not the first time on Twitter that people have uploaded pics or videos concerning her dad.

And she's been blocking bare people. But these videos are made public because of her dad. So he's doing whatever he's doing and she has to deal with it because everyone knows who she is.

Lol someone said it had to be Cindy that released that video.

O.O really she unfollowed her father? Wow, anyway yes I can understand her it must be embarassing for her and her mom, but as I said she should blame her mom too for having married Koffi knowing he was like this.
I wonder how Aliyah (is this her name?) feels

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The same Werrason sended Sankara de Kunta to insult Fabregas when he left and months later to mock about his first show in Kinshasa which was in Hotel at Fleuve (I think that it was the same interview where he insulted Celeo's kids). When Deplick left he did the same thing, also saying taht he suffers of "Maladie ya Ndeke" and restarting to diss Fabregas again without reason.

I think that sometimes Sankara take the initiative himself and disses ex members like when he insulted Heritier heavily and then asked money from Werra just to be told to f*** off because despite everything Heritier for Werra is like a son, I think that sometimes he just insults as part of the game, because I know Werra love the fact that 99 per cent of his ex musicians are the one having success with Koffi only havimg Fally and Brigade (even though is half and half) being successful.

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Lol the temptation to kiss on her lips was big it seems



Why Congolese people are like this lol





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I understand and get what he’s saying but he needs to remember nearly 98% of people leave groups out of anger, for example Wenge 4x4 split out of huge anger, Academia was formed out of anger, Les Marquis was especially created out of anger, Fally and Ferre both left QL in some sort of anger, Heritier left WMM out of anger.
More less everyone that leaves WMM never leave peacefully it’s always out to anger.
The list is incredibly long, Rio just needs to be honest, the lack of fan interactions have hurt BCBG a heck of a lot and also because all of those that left BCBG have taken the Jb laid back approach which they forget that Jb has nothing to prove.

I can't recall the last artist that left his mentor with full blessings, maybe Reddy Amisi for his intial albums.


Abraham, Chai, Fabregas, Deplick, to some extent Robinio
 and the most famous and recent case Fally

Abraham had the chance to release an album in the orchestra and JB never blocked him when he went solo even giving him money to fund his studio session until Abraham started to get desrespectful (for who knows what reason) Chai has been publicly mentioned by JB in a conert saying that since he missed his voice which he really liked he took Michigan which was singing just like him Werrason mentioned Fabregas name many time and never told anything bad about him, same with Deplick and Robinio, Fally despite an initial disappointment by Koffi became Koffi's biggest achievement in the terms.of formation since Fally pretty much became a superstar, But Na Fillet also, got his blessing by Fabregas even making him landing a feature with Werra in his solo album.

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Congolese Music / WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO WMM?
« on: July 26, 2020, 13:23 »


Wow these interviews from Werra and Kakol aren't making the same buzz as they were doing in the psst years. Wenge is really dying.



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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi & Ado yuhe
« on: July 26, 2020, 09:37 »
If Ado had balls he would have check Koffi and asked him when he was defending Del Pirlo and Didi Stone about his other kid that he never claimed and sell food on the streets, furthermore he would have told him to stop acting like the victim, every question was like "They hate Koffi that is why they talk bad about him".
 I didn't expect the defense of Ferre Gola by Koffi after Ferre dissed him in that famous interview where he was calling Koffi Koko Dianzombo (which is an insult in Congolese culture but I don't remember what it meant), if you wanna know how to manipulate people this is a good interview to watch, Koffi totally avoided questions he didn't like and act like the victin when he was in the bed. The mental gymnastic he made to deny Beniko Popolipo of his well earned credit in the compositon was astonishing, MJ, Celine Dion had composers as well but those composers still get paid to this day unlike many if QL Members. I gotta give him that he is one of the few Congolese leaders who actually pay people, for the rest this interview was too much in the safe mode to be interesting.

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Congolese Music / CAN YOU HELP ME?
« on: July 24, 2020, 21:03 »
I love Koffi's music especially generiques but I have a problem except Kerozene and Brigade and thanks to his acoustique Tresor Nzinga I don't know much of their names and what cries they sre associated can you help me.make a complete list from V12 and Loi until now?

Like for example Brigade Kisanola, Mopao Kabela Nga Mbongo etc.

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To be honest I don't like artists who do like that, Artists that goes to graveyards to sleep with dead women, sacrifice people in some cases and are ready to do whatever to get to the top talking about God it is a counter sense, I mean you go to do these things than go talk about God, the song is good and this is not a bash against Auguy Nyembo but to Bill don't talk the God's name if you don't do God things

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I agree, Papy Cocaine is sorely missed! Does Zaiko still have atalakus because their recent generiques don't have any cries.





What's your favorite Zaiko Langa Langa song?


Yes they do there is the guy playing Maracas with ya Jossart at 1:02 with the blu shirt he is the one singing (Yaya Jossart ee) an Atalaku can sing too without making cries, and then there is the guy dancing with Ya Jossart that says Auguste Liyanza bika distraction dit at 2:43 he is the guy talking to the guitarist at 2:43 untik 2:47 and actually Sielumuka is a crie but is deliver through a KiKongo way which is basicaly saying a crie and repeating it, sometimes there is a story behind it like in Ko Yimbi Ko Ya Mbala etc. Sometimes it is just a crie done like that.

Those are the two atalakus I recall but I don't know their name and is incredible how they sound so much similar pretty much like Cellulaire and Genta.

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Congolese Music / Re: NEW GENERIQUE LOL BY SANKARA DEKUNTA
« on: July 24, 2020, 11:45 »
I would love to hear Jamaique or Goldber g on this instrumental, Sankara is good but Wenge MM is not about clowns so I hope this is his last generique

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