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Why do musicians get involved in these things? Huge fan of Diddy but ruined his reputation with this. Whether true or not it’s best never to be involved.
 

People like Diddy do these things out of egotism. He's wealthy and powerful, so he shows off in front of people so that they know. That feeling you get when things go your way is very satisfying, but it's x100 when you're on that level


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Not bad at all

It's never too late, look at Soleil and Karmapa. They found success later in life...

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joss' love for wazekwa will "kill" him one day,despite the humiliations he's face during his return from musicians(especially champs elysee who has been promoted to chef d'orchestre) and from the brothers,he's out there calling one by one every member of the golden cultura generation to be in support of the concert and saying that he'll be there and he apologises on behalf of the guys
 apologizing for what?

They've been through so much together, I understand his loyalty. You're right though, it's an exhausting relationship

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yes,but not in big quantity like in the past because they are more demanding now which does not please musicians so they'd rather the up and coming who will be happy to get even just the chance to work with them

At some point, the artist gotta just give in to the demand...our music is suffering because the lyricists aren't giving up the goods like before.

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celeo and cnn tried to create a whatsapp group to discuss for example a self funded new version of fara fara album(only with generiques) where they invited the big and known names bill brigade gesac kero genta eclipse apoca biscuit and co and bill's arrival completely creared meltdown lol he came and they all wanted explanation for a diss song he did naming some of them

I've noticed that the cries of atalakus drop considerably when they settle in Europe, is it the lack of shegues and street groups for inspiration? Their animations seem basic, which is surprisingly since some of them speak kikongo and tshiluba. You'd think they could do better...

But then again, they're not classically trained like Ekokota, Genta, and others from the school of Bana Odeon

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Congolese Music / Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROI SOLEIL WANGA
« on: March 20, 2024, 23:27 »


Roi nsole guy vanbrawn
 his age is a bit of a mystery lol but i know he is one of the oldest pure quartier latin members from the attentat generation along with jordan who is 52 now,but i guess he must be same age as the likes of manda tutu aimelia so slightly older than jordan

What are the ages of the Jipson and Bebe Kero?

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even in the original config which is 9K i love him  but i dont believe he could fill,let alone the new almost 14k config
but the sad thing is that he could not give a damn,even if there is 500 people he might be caught by some quick sadness but his pride will quickly send him the job done message

Is he finished or is he not taking enough time to mobilize for these venues? He doesn't have a popular song or album in the market, I feel like there's nothing special going on to justify an arena concert

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He mocks jf for his antics and how he attacks musicians and adresses the rumours of having dated daida which caused beef with jb saying he does not know daida personally he only saw her once at her mother's wedding with VK and she is old enough to come and say if he ever approached her and he also adrssed didi saying that he tried dating her friends and said that if thats true then she should give names because all he knows is that her two three close friends just come to say hello papa and move,but he does not want to take long on that as if he was responding to his daughter
he ripped into popolipo during the interview and said that he is not any better than lebou felly tyson,he did nothing special in his career except his famous zaiko solo of the 80's and his song julia with him and so on
he talked again about that producer of legend saying it was the first time of his career that a producer paid 300K cash and not via a check or something he found it weird but he was fed up of making fans wait for the release so he had blind trust and that he got told by somebody who was close to an artist the whole story behind it but he wont reveal it because it will lead to strong controversy
he said he has no problem with jb and werra if they want peace with him he is fully open for it,even though he knows via people around them that they used to call him "wanted" during his justice issues
he was asked about the muana nsuka affair and he says he founds it strange that in congolese public's logic dancers are always the victim,in many cases they have consenting love affairs with the leaders and one dancer sandralina(who ironically enough goes down the totally opposite route of being victim now) said that its dancers who rape the leaders because they join groups already with the intention of being the leaders favorite and this include sex and relationship and koffi adds that the dancers even fight for them or leave groups because leaders is now closer to another dancer
he did the interview with next to him his daughter kenaya and received a cindy call lol cindy was sounding like she was shouting at him for something,and he did not hide it at all in the interview that she is fully his wife now with everything you can expect from a woman
Dancers raping leaders wow

That female dance squad of QL from Force de Frappe to Affaire d'Etat era could take turns gang raping me, especially Chouchou Mbayo and Patience Ibembo. I'll suffer in silence for years – #SURVIVINGQUARTIERLATIN  :)

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mannnn naty had to block his comment section because of the backlash he receives since his audios
why do you think he'll flop
It us just too complicated to go solo coming from a traditional Ndombolo band of the big three nowadays, especially if you cone from BCBG, BCBG musicians are almost unknown to people who aren't fans of BCBG I have seen this with the Fally concert, when Abraham was singing nobody knew him and much like CM Prince I had to tell people that he was a very famous ex Wenge BCBG Member back in the days.
Second no Europe backing, in Europe people know Fabregas, Heritier, Werras9n etc. But they hardly know about BCBGians cause of JB constant delay on albums and very rare concert in Europe he used to make,
And in the last part Congolese fans are extremely complicated, tbh I would never want to be a musician in Kin because Congolese fans have a very particular way like Americans to listen to the music and like you have said if you aren't from that particular camp, if you don't have that particular style they will be like what is this? And disregard you as quickly as possible. Despite But Na Fillet being a successful solo musicians from Villa Nova I don't think he will ever reach the success of Fally, Ferre or even an Innoss B, so that is why I think he will flop, I hate to say it but Nono Fudji it is simply out of time and I don't see him doing a Rhumba with new modern instruments

If I'm not mistaken, But Na Filet also benefited from people feeling sorry for him and being upset how his old friend Fabregas betrayed his friend. Maybe the gospel angle helped too, because it differentiates him from the other former band members of 5eme generation.

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I will offer two possibilities
1) He does not have enough money for promotion since he probably spends a lot of money on making songs and donors.
2) Likely Fabregas, Fally, Ferre and other bigger artists work hard to prevent Deplick of getting more favors from influential folks or fans in general.

Imagine being as advanced in your career as those men, but you're still blocking your peers as if they're a step or so behind you. Fally and Ferre have done big concerts, sponsorships, successful back to back albums, and continue their success as solo artists for almost twenty years – their position as leaders in the genre are cemented lol a successful year from Deplik won't strip that from them

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the fault is on the fans,if you serve them the real rumba with guitars heavy bass  drums and keyboard playing trumpet they will mock you ignore and say you are playing old school outdated music " tolingi kilelo oyo ba rumba ya kala esila deja",if you play modern rumba with loads of programming  you have to have mad hype around and be in the right camp  have the right relationship with the right people to make it gain attention,if you play urban they will belittle you as you are not the so called trendsetter and then want to you to have the same numbers of sales as x y z
every single issue from our music lies on the fans,even the bad behaviour of our artists its fans themselves who turn those guys who for more than half of them are  shy or "in the middle" people  into proper pricks because the fans instead of telling them off they'll back then and make it worse until some wake up like 10 years after and the deep love turns sour and goes borderline hate because now you feel you have been lied to all along
the day fans will take their role properly a lot of things could change

I suppose there has to be a brave musician to have a "fuck the fans" attitude and make good music to humble them. Because I don't see the fans returning to their proper role on their own, at least without outside provocation.

Congolese people are very prideful, so maybe seeing the music become second or third place to the Nigerians and Ghanaians could wake them up.

It's weird, because these are the same fans that propelled the underdogs into stars (Wenge Musica 4x4, Quartier Latin, ect) in the era where King Kester,  Zaiko, and the older generation dominated because they were seen as being "of the people" or the youth culture. I'm not really sure where the mindset of young Congolese people are in Kinshasa, because they don't seem quite like the kids you see here


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mannnn naty had to block his comment section because of the backlash he receives since his audios
why do you think he'll flop

It's crazy because the generation of Fally and Ferre may be the last time we see proper stars in our genre. All of the former musicians of F Victeam, Team Wata, Villa Nova, ect will never stand strong on their own.

It's really sad, because our music will disappear into irrelevance if there's no youth to carry the genre forward

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about the title right? lol because i remember a title like that when he was durell's employee
haha he's a good singer(even though i feel like since 242 something changed in his voice)

True, he sang really well in Z1 International. He did too much auto-tune on 242, but he tried to recover with Extra Musica Nouvelle Horizon

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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATA INTERVIEW WITH PAPY MBOMA
« on: February 26, 2024, 04:37 »


in short he says that his album has 2 generiques 16 rumbas but there is also a generique and rumba which was not finished in time which will be released like two weeks after album
he disappeared from media because he wanted to focus on himself and on his music and try to see if he would not be able to survive without a strong mediatic presence and he can see with the feedback from his album release that people were waiting for him and he promises they wont be disappointed because his songs are of a strong level he worked with the best songwriters and he believes his album will succeed
he does not have a rival because he is not in the logic like some artists that the others have to be weakened so that their superiority is highlighted but he's rather one to like to be strong among other strong
he was asked about fally's arenas and ferre's double arena and said hats off to them and when asked about fabregas' casino de paris he could not help but laugh then indirectly said later that papy just talked about big things but managed to insert stuff of little boys into the discussion of big men
and he said that he will perform in france this year he has dates set already but people will know after album is out and that he will like he said perform in martyrs a second time aswell which he could not do last year because of the major accident his group suffered in equatorial guinea taking a good time for everybody to recover and thats the reason why he sang the gospel song because it was a miracle that none of the 11 guys who were in the little bus that rolled over 4 times died,which people would have interpreted as his sacrifice for his album so he wanted to thank God with that song

What caused the bus to flip like that? Even myself, I'm surprised and happy nobody died. Good lord, I hate the imbalance of the albums with the rhumba/sebene ratio. First of all, too many songs and barely three or four songs are memorable

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Congolese Music / Re: mwana nsuka
« on: February 24, 2024, 14:35 »
yep,and he did which allowed that situation to be kept silent and settled  for so long,then whatever happened of late which created this
we'll know one day once the storm cools down,there is rarely even a scandal in our music without at least 5 per cent of fault on each side

I'm guessing JB didn't respect something in the agreement or the money to the women's family was late too many times, because the timing of this scandal is interesting lol

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