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Congolese Music / Straight Out of Compton (Inaccuracies)
« on: May 07, 2020, 03:53 »
Eazy-E was NOT tortured into signing the release forms for Dr.Dre and Michelle to join Death Row Records. What happened was that Suge Knight and his bodyguards surprised Jerry Heller in his office and intimidated Heller into signing away his claim on Dre and Michelle. Mob James who help coordinate the attack confirms this 4 minutes into the interview.



Shortly thereafter, Eazy-E was lured under false pretenses to meet with Dre to resolve their contract dispute. When Eazy realized the meeting was a set-up, they cornered him with weapons and implied that non-compliance could bring harm to people Eazy cares about. However, Eazy was clever enough to sign with a faulty signature that made his release of claim null and void. As soon as they left, he quickly started arming himself with guns to plan revenge and murder Suge for extorting him, but was quickly calmed down by Heller who suggested they retaliate through the law of contract.



The movie shows that Eazy was struggling after NWA completely broke up, but this is not true. Eazy put out an album a month before Snoop's first album that dissed them both and sold over 2 million copies. Eazy also formed Bone Thugs and Harmony and they began recording the album in late 1994, releasing just a couple months after Eazy died. That album sold 6 million copies. His record label Ruthless Records were doing fantastic by the time he fell sick with AIDS. He fired Heller and restructured the business with his artist to get their publishing via his wife through power of attorney when he knew he was going to die.



Although they show in the movie that Eazy was aware of Dre's success of Chronic, they fail to acknowledge that Dr. Dre lost the beef between them. Eazy E followed up with his EP that went double platinum and exposed Dre's past of not being down with the streets, of which Dre never responded directly. Snoop inherited the beef with his album Doggystyle, which is a concession of defeat since Snoop has a street resume that Dre doesn't.




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Congolese Music / Papa Wemba was on Saturday Night Live?!
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:11 »
I knew Papa Wemba had success in America as a "World musician", but SNL is a huge milestone! That's a whole audience of folks unaware of African music and they loved his performance.





He's lucky to have performed then, because musical guests were expected to participate in the comedic sketches as well since 90s lol





I wish Koffi Olomide signed with Sony back in 1998, because it could give him the exposure that Sonodisc couldn't.

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Congolese Music / R.I.P.
« on: May 01, 2020, 08:38 »
I read that bass player Moïse Maître Pay has recently passed away. He was with Patrouille des Star from their inception in 1997 until 2004 split, here's songs he is credited to. Rest in Peace








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Congolese Music / Random Question
« on: April 27, 2020, 07:58 »
How come this guy got credited a song before Ferre Gola? I would have been pissed lmao plus the kid doesn't even speakblingala in the entire song, was he even Congolese?


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Congolese Music / Original Extra Musica Story
« on: April 18, 2020, 05:29 »
Can someone do a biography about Extra Musica? How they originally started and the story of their rise to the split in 1998.

I believe this was Extra Musica's last concert before the split, you can hear the sebene for Racine at 12 minutes in


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Congolese Music / Can Someone Please Explain...
« on: March 29, 2020, 23:43 »
I'll never forget the rhythm guitar on this song! Wazekwa played so casually but melody is honey to the ears! Especially the chorus of "ah, bon"! There's something so relaxing about this song. If only I knew what the conversation was about? Sometimes it sounds like a track purely for dedications, maybe Werrason should of done this for A La Queue Leu Leu kiekiekie!




Felix must have really liked the concept enough because he repeat it again in Signature with Adolphe Dominguez.



The guitars and drum passage were good, but it felt like a waste of minutes on the album. I'm biased because of all the songs they could have cut down, why Miss? That sebene sounded like it was gonna be fire!


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And without further wait, the generique has arrived! What do you guy's think?


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Congolese Music / Pray for Me and My Family
« on: March 22, 2020, 17:07 »
Hello everyone, I hope you all have been safe and with family during this time. I just learned that my father has been hospitalized with respiratory issues, I'm heading back to see him. Although I believe it may be his asthma from the stress of quarantine, he will be tested for coronavirus. I appreciate everyone's topics in the forum, it continues to be a place of levity during this time!

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Congolese Music / Extra Musica Nostalgia
« on: March 19, 2020, 00:22 »


This must be 2001, because Papy Jah is still around and Dodou Copa is singing Karen Amour from Trop C'est Trop.

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Congolese Music / Unsung Group of Congo
« on: March 09, 2020, 06:42 »
Can someone tell me why Wenge Kumbela never obtained success despite Aime Buanga being from Bandal and a founding member of Wenge Musica? He even had success as a soukous artist in the mid-nighties, I'm surprised that none of his accomplishments translated into his own group.





His situation mirrors Delta Force in that the leader spent too much time in Europe, so the band remain in Europe got recruited by the competition (Mimiche went to Masion Mere & Cambodge went to QL). What I know is that key members of Kumbela left to join Pierrette Adams in the spring of 2000, because she toured in West Africa with them before recording Absolument in Paris.

Did Aime Buanga not receive the support from his neighborhood the way other groups did? Because almost every branch of Wenge came from Bandal.

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Congolese Music / Who Is This Singer?
« on: March 03, 2020, 06:50 »


Does anyone know the story about this guy? I saw him in the clips for Toujour Humble, but he didn't sing on that album (you'll see him in red shirt following Tutu Caludji in the goofy circle dance at 4:52). He had a few small vocals on Internet and Anti-Terror before disappearing. What happened?

What was JB Mpiana trying to accomplish with those young guys on the rhumba of Francis Solution? Did he want to unsettle the old guard? They were talented and young, but I feel like JB Mpiana never really committed to making them Wenge BCBG or an associated act like Pipiyus. I think he was too soft as a boss


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Congolese Music / Brazza Banger!!!
« on: February 04, 2020, 16:06 »
This album brings back so many party memories...





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Congolese Music / Does anyone have the mp3 file to this album?
« on: October 31, 2019, 18:23 »

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Congolese Music / Should They Have Left...
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:51 »
It's totally understandable why the key members of Victoria Eleison Dream Team Dream Band left;

1) They were going long periods of time without payment, because Kester was busy spending much of the group's profit on building his villa Maison Blanche. I even suspect that this is a contributing factor as to why Spino Lajatance left for Quartier Latin after the release of Mboka Mboka.

2) Despite the huge success of Mboka Mboka and Longue Histoire, the newly formed band has yet to tour in Europe and  are being given a hard time by "le carré magique" since those other bands have.

As it would have seemed, Dream Team Dream Band would have made it to Zenith of 2001 had they remained a bit more patient under the circumstances. The group already was preparing very well for Novel Ordre; you can hear the popular partition from the generique @ 4:56 minutes.



As we know, Mambo de Panama of King Boys staff (the same guy who helped Kester recruit these guys) convienced Guy Moller, Anthony Sampaio, Zoe Bella, Sweet Elesse, and Eric Masudi to split and form their own band. Does anyone know if they ever recorded and released an album? Why wasn't their spin off band successful? They were fantastic, just check out their 1hr 15 mintues to 1hr 21 minutes.



Do you think it would have been better for them to stick it out? Although, I figure most of those guys would have remained in Europe. King Kester was too eager to prove himself too soon and perhaps so were his boys...I supppse it is one of Congolese music's biggest mysteries.

Remember, Felix Wazewka had a somewhat similar problem in that his band was anxious to perform at the mystical halls, but the more patient members got to enjoy the glory (Eclipse, Pitchou Concorde, ect) while those who left the group got bad luck (Gesac, Hono Kapanga, Joss Diena, and Gabanna).

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Congolese Music / Successful Euro Based Groups
« on: September 23, 2019, 02:43 »
Does anyone know any groups created in Europe that had success aside from Les Marquis, Wenge El Paris, or Academia? It seems like groups in Paris are not taken seriously in Kinshasa despite access to better studios and venues.



Nono Manzanza has an impressive record as an atalaku, but even he couldn't get this group far. Does anyone know more songs or albuma he animated on? Or anything about that group?




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