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ferre was trained by werra zulema the dancer(not to confuse with zulema the singer )and late mulala
haha werra back in the days would be your worst nightmare when its about bringing out your potential( i wish he could still be on bill anc celeo's back like that so that they dont look like fat unbothered atalakus anymore) ,ferre was having long hours of private rehearsals after the wenge rehearsals just to make him good enough,and tata was coaching him on looks and charisma
only jb did not have a direct impact on him since when he was going to jb's house jb was not talking much to him,he'd just go to the backside of the house where mbokaliya,kibens,bogus,champion vualu,titina and co were building the feux de l'amour project

Was JB Mpiana against Ferre joining Wenge Musica? That's so odd! You'd think JB would be ecstatic about Ferre joining the group because of how he embraced Aimelia and Tutu Caludji.

If there's one thing I like about Werrason and Koffi, they don't play when it comes to maximizing their group's potential. It's not enough to be talented, but it's attitude and style. If only JB Mpiana followed suit with Wenge BCBG, he let his friendship give a pass to people who wouldn't of lasted in other groups (Rio, JDL, Kibens, & post-Internet Seguin)

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Congolese Music / Re: IS IT TRUE THAT WILLY STAR MBAYABO PASED ON?
« on: February 24, 2024, 14:25 »
Didn't Piccas lose his wife late last year? God bless this brother, that's way too much tragedy for a man

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yes exactly when the academia guys left depitcho was a mentor to the whole singers section to coach them to reshape the lineup to a level where they could counter academia

Who helped Ferre become a better dancer? I remember watching him at concerts from 1996 until 1998, you could tell he was very shy and was limited as a dancer despite being a powerful tenor. I suspect Adolphe taught him showmanship, while Werrason or Alain Mpela coached him as a dancer.

As for Bill, he is like Fally, Babia, and Alphatchino where you immediately see the potential. Maybe we need street groups as a buffer btw new musicians and big groups.

F Victeam felt like charity, with Fally recruiting old friends. And Fabregas, Heritier, and others not really having confidence in their group but on their own they don't make an impression to justify group albums

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yeah true that,thinking about it again he would have been like mamale with the first generation or like junior with the second generation guys who really rise into proper stardom when some guys left and by hierarchy logic they become more important(talking about junior him and mirage piss me off soooo much they had  a career on a plate but they ran away from it)

It was very interesting how quickly Mamale advanced as an artist from the clips of Loi to the post-Academia era where he's a ladies man and very charismatic. Did Savanet Depitcho coach them on style and attitude? The same for Jipson and Jordan, they really improved in image very quickly

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tango mosusu apesaka eloko te,these stars are lowkey weird behind the scenes for their tour lists,its not only artistic merit which puts you on lists(i insist these,so most of them big stars not singleing out dicap in particular ,if you are not a cemented guy and you dont have a children a sister a petit ya quartier or whoever to give you can find yourself waiting forever)

So who isn't "cemented" is that y'all would like to see go on European tours? Also, is there anything there musicians can do to convince Fally, Ferre, and others to promote group albums or individual members? I feel like they were successful with Libre Parkours, but they upset Fally by not promoting their songs...maybe they should do concerts in Kinshasa without him – to show that they can bring something to the table.

To be honest, I'm surprised Papy Kalombo left to go solo. I feel like that's going backwards, why did he leave?

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Congolese Music / Re: THIS SOUNDS LIKE A FALLY & F’VICTEAM SONG
« on: February 08, 2024, 07:54 »

Obviously released way before Fally went solo but the whole song and melody when I listen to it I feel like I’m listening to Fally and F’Victeam. Even the way Generation A is singing the chorus it sounds like F’Victeam and when Mirage comes in he almost sounds like Nathan, Miel de son’s part could’ve been interpreted by Atele and the fact that Ronsard Kanza sings in this also makes it sound more like F’Victeam.

Maybe Alain Mpela was spoiled being the most famous chef de orchestra in Congolese music (name recognition, donors, ect), because he had everything needed to succeed yet the EP flopped and he was never around in Kinshasa long enough to promote the band. What do you guys think? I'm surprised his staff allowed him to make those silly mistakes

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Did St Petro tour with Extra Musica in Europe and Africa from 1999 to 2001 or was he already settled in France? Because he never appeared in any of the clips or album pictures for Shalai and Trop C'est Trop as a member of the group.

He's not even credited as playing mi-solo for any albums of Zangul – only for Merci by Extra Musica International. I suspect he was their "grand frere", who helped Clan Extra whenever they called, he spiced up partitions that Roga and Sonor created in Brazza prior to recording in Europe but I could be wrong....

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He says it was made clear in viva that musicians cant date dancers,but alpa was dating julie mulanga(man i cant mention her without thinking about bokul's corny shoutout in somo trop)  and one day bokul made them sit and told them that they had to make a choice,either one has to leave the group or it cant continue like that  and julie said it was not even a possibility for her to leave her career for a man,so alpa was hurt as it meant that julie would breakup with him to stay in the group and went on to drink one of those house cleaning chemicals to attempt suicide and its what cause in long term his kidney issues

I'm surprised that a musician would date, much less pursue a relationship with a dancer. Don't they see how the leader or donors can influence sex out of the girls? All that provocative dancing for men, it's too much temptation for cheating.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Richard Mukena leave BCBG for a dancer to be his wife? Alain Mpela also married Nana Sukali, so it's possible to find love at the job. But those are the only successful examples that come to mind, the others are all failures and scandals

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See, not even a month and the polemique continues...


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Congolese Music / Re: FABRO AND DEPLICK IN STUDIO
« on: January 26, 2024, 00:00 »
lol this is what happens when some authorities get involved,what the likes of celeo or lobeso were trying to achieve for months was sealed in no time,and each of them starting to get money and pushed to make it quick and public,you'll see that among the people they will shoutout the most there will be some names of government
its like each electoral mandate comes with  a new musical reconciliation,maybe in 5 years they'll try ferre and fally

I'm surprised after all these years, no top donors ever attempted the reconciliation btw Ferre and Fally. People liked their chemistry in QL, maybe there's no amount of money that could make them friends or work together...

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no it was guy bayaya he played rhythm as always,he only was a full time soloist in the street groups,like one he was in with one of koffi's cousins
then from his time in maison mere he went to rhythm to try to find a spot and never made the switch back

Does Reddy still have a band or does he only work with session musicians? He won't sell as many albums if he can't tour with a band and promote the album, idk what's the strategy or if music is just a hobby for him.

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Is my man serious?! How do you go from a half-filled Zenith to U Arena? And he wants to do Madison Square Garden, he's really reaching.
Zenith wasn’t even half filled loool it was barely a quarter looool

Today, musicians have it backwards. They want "plein na plein" but they don't make the kind of music that excites people from all over to descend to Zenith, Bercy, or Stade de Martyr in record numbers.

Wazekwa needs to give his artists space at rehearsals. Don't write songs for them, let the singers shop for songs and revise the lyrics to better develop their own songwriting abilities.

For the generiques, let the guitarists create the aggressive sebenes we missed from the era of Hono Kapanga and Pitchou Concorde. There's too much choreography, but not enough memorable cries or vocals on rumbas.

Wazekwa isn't preparing Eclipse well to take over Cultura, it's showing. There's no stars in the group and every decision made seems out of desperation

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Lol. Madison Square Garden doesnt even have 30k seats, what is he talking about? For a guy that been relegated to making generiques with over complicated dances he's talking real slick these days

Madison Square Garden has a flat fee of 500k to rent their hall, but it's really the complimentary fees that adds up the cost. The hall seats 18,000+ people and they require musicians to purchase public liability insurance in addition to providing their own security service.

In addition, the venue reserves the right to cancel a booking at any point for no refund, that's why it's often difficult for artists to secure a concert at their hall. They're notorious for making musicians bleed money at no guarantee of performing in their hall, especially non-White musicians. There's been several racial discrimination complaints against the venue for cultural bias in booking.

Personally, Wazekwa is better off performing at the Apollo or mid range theater in America. Don't spend all that money for mpiaka, just because it's a prestigious hall. You know how the media is, they'll make jokes for months at his expense

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he says he is back to congo to promote his album which he'll put a bit on hold with the afcon and DRC participating and so far he's happy with the feedback,and that he's told the band he brought to europe to stay there so that he can  perform with them if he struggles for visas and he is happy that some of them already cemented 10 years papers so they will be able to come and go back with him
he is asked about paying musicians he says he is a honest guy and for him he cant pretend that he really does whats called paying an employee all year long but as soon as they perform they share the money straight before the end of concert,he is not rich enough yet to pay them no matter what for a whole year but he does his best to help them when they have problems
i am so happy for him,my man went to some high level humiliation luckly for him he was not yet in conflict with fabro or the way warriors operate nowadays,they'd have exposed him for his struggles,man literally had to live at some point on a bench in a bar because they had stolen him 80k he was saving for years to buy a big landplot and was not able to afford rent for a while because he was not performing and donors had turned their back on him since he was not on the spotlight
papy asked him about his reaction to fabro's interview and he says that a lot of people friends,family,fans,donors, musicians like celeo for example called him to urge him to make peace with fabro and he accepts but he wants to make it clear once again that it was not him who started any beef and that the reason why he blocked then completely erased fabro from his phone was that his closer jester insulted his son brandy who at some point was dyslexic,he could not care less about somebody insulting him over his music or his looks or whatever but children was way too far so he straight away removed fabro from his voice to avoid even thinking about talking to him because he would have gone far aswell to pay back,and now that jester has fallen out with fabro and tried to come on his side and he told him to jog on and that he is not the type  to welcome somebody just to be petty and serve some revenge and that all those who insulted him in the name of fabro who he knows should not think they are part of the peace he is making with fabro they should stay in their lane and learn that as grown men you should not get too involved in other grown men's business
about fabro he says that they were like brothers,to the extent that when they just started in maison mere and did not have anything yet they could go as far as passing to each other either of them's underwear they received from somebody coming from europe
and that he never wanted it to reach such level in the first place but as soon as the line was crossed with the attack towards his son  he had to stand
Deplik should forgive Fabro but don't be too quick to be close buddies with him because you're forgetting the lesson as to why things fell apart in the first place – Fabro's jealousy and egotism.

Just look at Wazekwa and Wemba. Each time they tried to forgive Koffi and forget about his egotism, a situation revives Koffi's bad habits and then the cold war resumes. When Wemba put his foot down and put a permanent distance between himself and Koffi, things calmed down for him in terms of polemique.

As for Wazekwa, I do believe it's maintaining that closeness with Koffi and his brothers that collectively changed him from the humble Wazekwa we once knew to what we have recently.

I know you're happy to see more unity with the younger generation of artist, but I feel like they're not genuine since one side actually makes an effort.  What has Fabro done to address his well known character defects that caused their fallout years ago? I'll wait...he treats his band like shit, he a narcissist in media, and I could go on.

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Congolese Music / Re: SOLEIL RECRUITS A FEMALE ATALAKU
« on: January 12, 2024, 15:20 »
https://twitter.com/lgc_lachaine/status/1745546439126560997
Waste of time in my opinion….female atalaku are limited

That female atalaku of Koffi had something special, I forgot her name. It's just that she wasn't professional and got pregnant by another member of QL

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