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Congolese Music / Re: Mabanga in Love Songs
« on: January 30, 2019, 07:00 »
I've always wondered this.
As far as the lyricism in Congolese rumba, when the singer is taking the perspective of his own or as man vs the perspective as a woman?
Like to they go back and forth switching perspectives?
I've noticed that Franco used to sing from the perspective of a woman sometimes too.
   

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Not sure if it's been posted but great stuff!

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A sexual predator is a sexual predator, R. Kelly has been taking advantage of underaged girls for over 20 years and people have been knowing about it. This is not one of those "They are trying to put the black man down" situations.
You can't compare wealthy men to the plight of Black men in this situation because Wealthy men have unfair advantage period.

R Kelly despite his musical genius and impact, is a sack of shit who deserves to go to jail and stay there for the rest of his life.

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Congolese Music / Re: Interesting band from Congo
« on: January 03, 2019, 22:14 »
I think don't think issue is whether or not Congolese music is limited, the problem is if other genres are equally promoted and if Congolese people are receptive to it.

Rumba and Ndombolo has saturated/monopolized the Congolese music industry for decades, so other genres are going to fall under the radar if we allow it to.




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Congolese Music / Re: This song was excellent.
« on: December 30, 2018, 20:22 »

I don't think so because I see nobody in Werra's, JB's, Fally's or Ferre's who has a big influence like Alain Mpela, Fally Ipupa, Ferre Gola, Heritier, etc. used to have in their former bands. So I see still the same artists dominate until 2023. Our donors don't like to support unknown artists.

Expect Inoss B. who is supported by donors coming from Eastern Congo, Alesh and Gaz Fabulous, etc. have nobody. They always give their tracks for some money or Nkoy-beer to djs and if they are lucky they  get some fame. They don't benefit of their succes.  Anita Mwarabu who used to sing with F-Victeam sung not a long time ago a song with Mbilia Bel, dedicated to Docteur Jeff Ndjadi Leteta, which made her buy a jeep and start her own business in Kinshasa about beauty-products.

The music those djs are making are inspired from Nigerian music and they often samply those hits and put their own lyrics on. They don't use Congolese music anymore.

I think that we will get only rubbish songwriters, because they were raised the last 10 years with the bedroom music of B.E.K., Abacadabra, A2BM, QEDJ, Boite Noire, etc. Also the mentality of people living in Kinshasa is totally different. You have only to look at videos they upload on facebook who are mostly only about sex or insulting parents, etc. Don't you see how people are doing polemic now by insulting wife, familymembers, etc. I think that its to late. Or something must to create an diaspora-artist who create a revolution and change the things in Kinshasa.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
So once we're in 2023, is there a possibility of new bands coming or are the Congolese DJs doing Nigerian music becoming bigger? Will the DJs take the music and change it into something else like the first generations did with Cuban Rumba?

 I really don't like the idea that we're losing our originality in arrangements, melodies and vocals in the way we do it and I believe that Ndombolo can evolve into something new only if we had the money to do so. There so much talent in Kin but there isn't a solid foundation as well as the donors don't want to give the new kids a chance.

Are Fally and Ferre going to manipulate Gaz Mawete and Innoss'B like Koffi and Wemba did with the Wenge generation/Franco and Tabu Ley with Wemba?   

 

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Congolese Music / Re: This song was excellent.
« on: December 30, 2018, 08:07 »
No, in Kinshasa you have now alot of artists who have succes guys like Alesh, Inoss B, Gaz Mawete, Youpi Yeah,.. It happen often that people in bars prefer them above Fally & Ferre. Alesh has alot of succes because of his political songs. Beside Ferre & Fally you have guys like Fabregas & Heritier Wantabe. And in the years 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, artists like Kabose & Lacoste were doing it well. Voiture Sans Moteur was one of the best songs of 2008 and Lacoste generique had a huge succes. Celeo Scram who came with Nzoto Na Nzoto in 2008 and having with album alot of huge, but bring unlucky that he couldn’t leave DR Congo. Brigade with his short succes in 2015 when he released Affaire a Rando. JDT Mulopwe with his album Moleki Nzela in 2008, Mirage Supersonic with Figure de Style in 2007. All those albums had some succes. People started to talk about Révolution G5.



So Mvulusi, I have several questions lol.
Do you think that the 6th generation is going to break the cycle of monopoly in Congolese music vs the last few generations?

Any idea who's funding Alesh, Innoss'b and Gaz Faboulous vs Werra, Koffi and Ferre being sponsored by donors?

This is a two part question but what exactly does Gaz Faboulous or Alesh's music fall under? Because it's definitely not Ndombolo/Rumba but is it inspired by Afrotrap/Afrobeats/Rap? Or is inspired by Congolese rhythms but through programmed machines?

Lastly, what's the fate songwriters and skilled guitarists/musicians possibly in the next 5-10 years? Even though Fally and Ferre aren't as great as their musical fathers Koffi and Werra, they can dance and are vocally talented. Are we going to have to look forward to Congolese rappers without stage presence?     

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Congolese Music / Re: Interesting band from Congo
« on: December 30, 2018, 07:35 »


This made president Obama's favorite music of 2018 list 

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Congolese Music / Re: Underrated Stino Mubi songs
« on: December 22, 2018, 04:12 »


Ndosi was always one my favorite Stino songs along with the first half of Mista and the sebene portion of Odia-Bilala.
But I have no clue what he's saying in Ndosi lol.
Does anyone know Stino's ethnic group/ekolo? Or any ethnic folk rhythms Ndosi is inspired from? 

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I've been replaying this song like crazy for the past couple of days, it sounds so fresh! Hopefully they'll blow up and it's heart warming
to see awesome musicians continuing to keep the culture alive.



Fabregas makes a appearance towards the end


The backing band Les Masques is fireeee, Kevany El Shabazz is one to watch as well. They all have so much potential.

 

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Congolese Music / Re: Inoss B continues with attacking Fally
« on: November 10, 2018, 09:26 »
As much as I'm not a fan of Innoss'B Afrobeat (though he calls it AfroCongo) sound he does have a point about him being overlooked. And I do agree with it being unfair that you have to create an alliance with popular musicians in order to get your music heard in the Congolese music  industry which creates an even bigger divide between the older and new generations.

Which is already becoming increasingly obvious
 I think the problem is that he shouldn't be competing or worried about Fally because he's clearly doing something different, and  are on different paths.

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Congolese Music / Re: Folkflorique and Traditional vibes
« on: November 07, 2018, 04:41 »
I know Mungala automatically means that their singing in Lingala.... but iv'e been DYING to hear traditional Bangala rhythms or hear at least what they sound like.

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It just an album with featerings (Davido, Tiwa Savage, etc.) to counter Inoss B, Gaz Mawete, Youpi Yeah, those dj’s of Kinshasa and Fally with his Tokooos. It has also a generique and a rumba. The album of Quartier Latin will come in 2019 and that of Cindy some months after it.

Does this mean that we'll have to hear an Afro/Congo/Trap/Beat album from Koffi?

Will Congolese bands even matter 10-20 years from now?

Yes (1) and no(2). Speaking realistically, no 6 gen is on the rise.
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That's incredibly sad to both.

 I think by the end this decade there's something going to change dramatically about Congolese music. Because based of Innos'B latest interview, the new artists on Trace Kitoko and articles like this popping up:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-6314493/Weve-got-power-In-DRC-rap-moves-rumba.html

The 6th generation seems like they're not interested in Rumba and Ndombolo at all, which makes me fear that live musicians/orchestras are going to be in danger.



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Koffi is still on the top people are dancing on Alidor and Papa Mobimba aye, its not V12, Monde Arabe, Effrakata or Loi. But he’s still giving everything he got and he’s doing better then some 5eme Generation-artists. Don’t forget that he’s 62 years old. Alot of people don’t realize that.

The Lègende will not be special. It just an album with featerings (Davido, Tiwa Savage, etc.) to counter Inoss B, Gaz Mawete, Youpi Yeah, those dj’s of Kinshasa and Fally with his Tokooos. It has also a generique and a rumba. The album of Quartier Latin will come in 2019 and that of Cindy some months after it.

Does this mean that we'll have to hear an Afro/Congo/Trap/Beat album from Koffi?

Will Congolese bands even matter 10-20 years from now?

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Congolese Music / Re: SMH Felix Wazekwa
« on: October 29, 2018, 06:37 »
LMAO y'all ever heard of a joke?

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I think Kanye is so bothered by Drake being the number one rapper, he feels the need to jump on the African/Caribbean wave just like Drake did. Specifically Dancehall and Afrobeats. Rihanna's next album is reportedly going to delve in the same genres too.

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