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Messages - faithandwar

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"But a sapeur moves as little as possible, just enough to show off his trousers or his shoes. If your wearing a nice outfit, you obviously don't wan't to break into a sweat."

This quote should be put on a plaque lol, it sums up why 90% Congolese men dance real constricted at parties  ;D

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Congolese Music / Re: Did not know this album ever existed
« on: March 31, 2018, 22:28 »
Ironically the songs he selected reflected well each band. With Franco, it was about social consciousness and looking for liberty while with Pepe Felly, he wanted to get a sense of respect from someone for his hard work while with Tabu Ley, it was being a womanizer and bragging about being a ladies man. Unfortunately Franco and Tabu Ley did not participate in these songs.

Is there a reason why? I was looking at the album credits and didn't see their names.

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Congolese Music / Re: Best voice of all times
« on: March 26, 2018, 23:22 »
I kinda wish that we had more research on the science of our musicians voices, at a technical and spiritual level. :/

 I don't think you'll get a straight answer BrazzaBoy, considering voices/music is subjective. It's kind of like how people will fight over Whitney vs Mariah in who's the better vocalist even when they take range,timbre,register and resonance in account. Live vs Studio.

So I guess we can just list our favorite vocalists, rather than saying their the best. Personally I look for personality, power and tone.

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Nathalie Makoma
Ferre Gola
Fally Ipupa   
Alain Mpela
Adjani Sesele (in his prime)
Pepe Kalle
Madilu
TabuLey
Carlyto
Papa Wemba
Koffi Olomide
King Kester

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They were proposed to sign with CBS(now Sony Music), but the leaders refused because they didn't want to get the same money like their employees. Alot of things happended. The employees discovered that the leaders of Zaiko (Nyoka Longo, Zamuangana, Mbuta Matima & Meridjo) were getting their royalties of their songs throught their own musiclabel Prozal. Which made alot of members angry. Mr Ngoss proposed Zaiko to build a quarter for them, because for him the succes they got in Africa was not matching the conditions they were living with everybody agreeing. But Nyoka Longo refused, because he didn't want to be on the same level like the other musicians. Which disappointed the whole band.

Wow, self sabotage + arrogance is a Congolese musician's worse enemy huh?

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi Olomide Facebook Live Show
« on: March 25, 2018, 11:19 »
Uhhhhh, y'all wanna let me know the disdain for Cindy on here lol?

SN:I only know her as a breakout female member in QL from 06-08. Other than that, not much.

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Congolese Music / Re: The song Affaire Ngulu was so funny
« on: March 21, 2018, 06:44 »
"azo tuna yo... c'est n'est pas musicien"   :D :D :

Basically, the Ngulu "pig" represented all the people who were listed fake band members to get passage into Europe in exchange for a payout. Stuffing the pig is stuff the band with imposters. Early on it would be just a few people, but as they were getting away with it early on they got real greedy, which raised red flags to EU authorities. They would pay Wemba $3500 fee for entry in Europe via aeroport CDG Roissy & Brussels.

When he got arrested in Feb 2003 we all thought his career was over, as every major media outlet made a report about it. At the moment of arrest he was smuggling 15 people guised as Nouvelle Ecrita members.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/21/world/congolese-singer-arrested-in-france.html
After he was released from prison late 2003 and had his Zenith, he was extradited to Beligum after to answer for the same crime. The Ngulu affair scared the sh*t out of every artist to the point they were willing to set aside polemic and show solidarity.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3497837.stm
Late 2004 he recieved 30 months suspended sentence with his previous 4 month imprisonment credited, meaning he walked free. He got lucky in the end.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4015473.stm

Belgian court said 200 Congolese entered Europe illegally via Wemba, meaning he made something like $700,000 gross profit over many years.
"azo tuna yo... c'est n'est pas musicien"   :D :D :D
Nayebi na ngai français te lol, there's no way I would've picked that up

OH!
 I remember hearing about that, I thought that was much later. My dad told me about that sometime in 2006 or so but I didn't know it happened earlier or didn't know they had a name for it.  All I knew was that Wemba went to jail for smuggling people in France and that was it. But "Ba ngulu" I heard a lot in mabokes, muziki (moreso JB) and sketches and stuff.

 Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. :)

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Congolese Music / Re: The song Affaire Ngulu was so funny
« on: March 21, 2018, 03:40 »
This is how parodies are supposed to be lmao. He literally got all of them, Koffi, Wemba and Werra especially.

Can someone explain to me what the Ngulu(Pig) Affair was? I remember it being something in the early 2000's dealing with our artists.

We had all of Siatula's VHS tapes, Kombi ewuti poto is a classic!

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World Music / Re: Some great songs by D'Angelo
« on: March 20, 2018, 05:09 »
Voodoo is such a great album! It's one of my favorites!

Really Love is a great song too from Black Messiah:


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Congolese Music / Re: Ethnic groups
« on: March 19, 2018, 04:36 »
So Fally is Mungala? I'm a bit confused since it was spelled Mangala and I thought most tribes were Mu- singular Ba- plural.

If he is mungala it kinda makes sense why I thought he sounded like Maman Eyenga in KO-KO-KO lol. They speak really deep lingala.

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I think I broke the replay button...

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I don't know how to feel about this......... ???

Same. Davido & Fally/Ferre i get... this one idk. More for bragging rights i suppose

The thing about this, is that i'm not sure if he's chasing trends of Afrobeat or making pure collabo of fusing the cultures. If he mixes the Afrobeat element and brings some FIRE sebene, I wouldn't be upset.
BUT, if he lowers himself of chasing the AfroBeat trend, then it's going to be a real blow to our music which it's quality is already lowering. Koffi is supposed to be the leader of the trends, and I know when other musicians see this they're going to try to follow suit. We're already in competition with the Nigerians. He's selling himself to them, which pisses me off.

Who's our next Congolese Savior?! Nzambe na ngai!

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Same @Grandpretre, when I saw the Alerte Generale cover I felt betrayed. But I was pretty young back then, afterwards I just heard songs here and there rather than a whole album from him. 

1. Kibuisa mpimpa
2. Solola Bien
3. A la queue leu leu

These are the trinity.

 If Solola Bien is Off The Wall (informing DRC and Africa abroad as far as what's to come) then Kibuisa Mpimpa is the Thriller of Werra's catalogue. It's a monster. It's so hard to skip a song on Kibuisa Mpimpa except Nakoyamba Yo.  There should be a thread/capsule on that album alone. Stories of witnessing hearing and witnessing it the day it dropped, the hysteria afterwards. Photos, interviews, concerts, studio sessions. If there is one please point me to it. Then the Dangerous or if there's any Prince fans, Sign Of The Times, A la queue leu leu. The last resort, and the last time we saw the best generation of MM together.

Ugh, still hurts thinking about it. 

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Congolese Music / Re: The Rumba Kings
« on: March 10, 2018, 23:44 »
Also Franco is WAAAAAAAY overdue for a feature-film. Franco's charisma, legendary guitar playing skills, partnership with Simaro, protégés/offshoots of OK JAZZ and alliance with Mobutu are all stories that are golden and would gain lots of interest. Someone needs to tell Djo Tunda Wa Munga to direct it, have an amazing soundtrack covered by contemporary Congolese artists and then BAM. A international box office hit.

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Congolese Music / Re: The Rumba Kings
« on: March 10, 2018, 23:36 »
I was waiting for someone to make a thread on this! My dad hit me up letting me know about the trailer on FB awhile back. This looks really good.

But uh, my only concern is that if this becomes a big smash..... will the legends get any royalties for their estates? I'm not trying to be a detractor,but stuff like this has to be thought about.

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I don't know how to feel about this......... ???

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