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Congolese Music / Re: RIP Diego Maradona
« on: November 25, 2020, 17:47 »
I'm so shocked, such a legend man.
I would have loved to witness the time he played.
RIP

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I completely agree with you. Our music is so s**t nowadays, I can't even remember the last time we had a year full of great albums.
The only decent album we've had in the past few years was probably Rendekita but the rest naa! Even Fally and Ferre's or the whole 5th Gen's albums don't impress me. 30 Tracks with 98% with Long ass boring Rumbas and Trash Generiques with no Sebene. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this stupid rumba trend must go.
It's like our artists don't even try anymore nowadays, it's so disappointing.

I agree with you. So sad I was too young to witness time when congolese artists they used to drop good quality albums.
Even though i'm young the 5th generation never impressed me even Droit Chemin and Sens Interdit (despite being ok albums).
It seems like since 2004-2005 nobody makes a effort to do a complete album.
These senseless generiques those long boring ass rumbas full of sexual references really killed our music.
And i'm not talking about those coupe décalé generiques ....kiekiekie

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Koffi used Eric Tutsi's pic in the Ultimatum-booklet. Was that the trip where he became ill because of drugs ? Because according Suzuki in an interview he once made after being mad at Fally & Eric, he almost died when they once to Kenya.

This 1996 trip to Kenya, was the same trip where they recorded Ultimatum, having Pathy Bass &  Rocky Blanchard (they apparently argued there and at one concert even playing without bass for a long time, because of Koffi not wanting to have him on stage. I remember Kenyas on a rumba-facebook page claiming that the argument was about Miette Shegue.) on the bass, Coco Tchomba & Champion Djikapela on the drums, Lebou Kabuya, Do Akongo, Felly Tyson, Beniko Popolipo on the guitars, Ondo on the keyboards, Nseka on the conga's, the atalaku combo Dolce Somono and Mbosshi and the dangerous singing section of Babia Ndonga, Eric Tutsi, Sam Tshintu, Willy Bula, Modogo Ambarambwa and Suzuki Luzubu. The really wondeer how the duet of Koffi & Babia was on the original version of Zahina and also Eric Tutsi song (according Rocky Blanchard they Koffi punished Babia who was then the main star by not giving him a song on this album, because of coming late and sometimes even not showing up at rehearshals)..

Sam Tshintu once said in an interview with Addy Londole that Koffi lost the recording-files of that album (or maybe he furious and him not wanting to release that version, after hearing that Babia Ndonga joined Anti Choc and that he was about to tour in Europe and Willy Bula joining Zaiko Langa Langa), which forced them to record a new version in Paris in a few days without Coco Tchomba, Lebou Kabuya, Rocky Blanchard, Pathy Bass and Eric Tutsi who all stayed in Kinshasa. Giving Binda Bass the opportunity to play bass on that album and the new recruited Bouro Mpela and Sam Tshintu doing a few vocals who were orginally done by Willy Bula, Babia and Eric Tutsi. Koffi adding Dessin Anime which he erased from the Magie-tracklist after Scola Miel's departure and modifing it by adding some vocals and keyboards of Ondo. However, Koffi still thanked sound-engineer Bruce Ochieng and Creative Studio Nairobi in the Ultimatum-booklet.

I never knew Eric Tutsi was supposed to have a song in Ultimatum. Was he supposed to sing Dulcinée ? Suzuki said that Eric Tutsi had that song 1994 but i don't know if it's true.

So Sam wasn't supossed to have many vocals in Ultimatum. Was his song Shambouyi popular back then ? (Because you told me that he wasn't as famous as Suzuki, Willy Bula,Modogo, Babia & Eric Tutsi because he didn't have a vocal to his name)

I think it's sad too i would love to hear the 1996 version of Ultimatum with almost the same squad of Magie.

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Congolese Music / Re: Who's the best arranger in the genre?
« on: November 06, 2020, 13:40 »
I think Maika Munan he made Nouvelle Ecriture, Pole Position and Foridoles for Papa Wemba (Papa Wemba was fair for mentioning him as "realisateur and direction musicale" this album and crediting him as composer for most songs), Arsenal des Belles Melodies & Droit Chemin for Fally Ipupa (who are seen as Fally's best albums), Solola Bien for Werrason (I wonder why Werrason never tried to contact him for other albums, was it for the way he started to shout at him and Adolphe in the studio?), Koweit Rive Gauche, Wake Up, Loi & Noblesse Oblige for Koffi Olomide, Le Monde Envers (aka Armageddon) for Wenge El Paris and for Reddy Amisi he arranged the albums Injustice, Prudence, Ziggy and Etoile.

Maika Munan used to shout at Werra & Adolphe in the studio ? Hahaha I imagine the scene

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi’s LSC of 1995 is back on YouTube
« on: November 04, 2020, 12:26 »
Spring 95 ok. So they came to record V12 not long after the Magie tour (which lasted from July to December 94-January 95 right ? )

I guess people were surprised to not see Willy Bula. He was very popular back then. He must have been very humiliating for him to be left behind (in Brazzaville right ?) and go back to Kinshasa

I get it now the problem Willy had with Koffi until he left in January 97 (after being left behind for the Ultimatum tour and the recording of Loi) was that he slept with a dancer kiekiekiekie

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi’s LSC of 1995 is back on YouTube
« on: November 04, 2020, 01:07 »
I know Quartier Latin went back to Kinshasa after Magie in January 1995 but I have a lot of questions about the 1995 europe trip. He didn't bring female dancers to this tour ? Who played drums in this concert ?

How long last this tour and V12 recordings ? It starts in July right ?

It seems like Passé Kossé wasn't there neither.

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Congolese Music / Re: THE BEST QUARTIER LATIN ALBUM
« on: October 24, 2020, 12:22 »
1) Ultimatum or Magie

I might go for Ultimatum since the sound is better, even though the version with Babia and Eric Tutsi should've been out.

2) Pas de Faux Pas - Etage Ya Suka

Very underrated album.

3) Affaire d'État?
i would pay i nice bit of money to hear the version with Babia (R.I.P) and Tutsi

Indeed lol Willy Bula sing in the first version of Ultimatum too.

Back to the topic my favourite Quartier Latin album will always be Magie (I know.every song by heart lol). I wish I was older back then. Everybody must have been impressed that Koffi adapt his style to compete with Wenge by surrounding himself with youngsters

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Congolese Music / Re: Mustapha nkori interview... sad
« on: September 11, 2020, 17:41 »
This is a sad situation. Same with Eric Tutsi. They have been harmed and are damaged goods. It is heartbreaking.

Eric Tutsi has recover since now he is in good shape. He even admit he was a junkie. But I hope ex-Quartier latin members would do something especially the "Generation Bercy" who knew him before Moustapha before he lost it. If i'm not wrong he's been like that since 2002 or 2003 right ?

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Congolese Music / Re: Mustapha nkori interview... sad
« on: September 10, 2020, 15:45 »
Damn his voice is gone. Gibson did him really bad he must feared him a lot. I remember watching another interview of him at Nantes in YouTube 8 years ago. In this video he look way worse. I hope one day he will be "saved"
I wonder what JF Ifonge, Jordan and the ex-Bercy team must think when they see Moustapha like that.

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I can't wait Archos hahaha. Are you gonna talk about the musicians left behind in Kinshasa ?

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Yeah i would like to know more about the reaction of others Quartier Latin members. I know Suzuki and Bouro didn't like him.
By the way how old is Depitcho ? 50 right ?
Did he come long before Olympia ?

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Congolese Music / Re: R.I.P Chadwick Boseman
« on: August 29, 2020, 06:22 »
Man this is sad besides Black Panther he acted in some good movies RIP, 

f... 2020, what kind of strange year

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No, because when all those problems started, Emeneya was almost 2 years in Europe with Victoria Eleison. But it possible that a donor who was close to them could have done that job. Most end up by leaving the end and waiting for Emeneya to return. They all returned except Guy Moller himself and Eric Masudi, Sampaio who left as first artists wanted also to rejoin Victoria, but he was approached by Papa Wemba.

It was actually the generic of Contre-Attaque who was used in Effrakata, but many people mistake it for Systeme ya Ba Chinois, because that album-title was promoted alot. I think that it was that Chibida Dumbu of Wenge Tonya Tonya who sold those parts also to them, because he's the creator of most partition that we heard in the Effrakata-generics (Effrakta & Generation Bercy).

I thought Eric Masudi returned briefly to Victoria from 2003 to 2004.
Système Ya Ba Chinois was supposed to be released in 2002 or 2003 ?
Guy Moller was left alone when Zoé Bella and Swet Ellesse went back to Victoria when they returned from Europe in January 2003, he struggled to release Mot de Passe in 2006, did he also tried to join les Marquis in 2005 ? I always prefered him as an atalaku.

Yes, I always forget about. The was the last to rejoin, but he didn't stay long Zoe Bella and Sweet Elesse who stayed until the recordings of Le Jour Le Plus Long (they saw their vocals being erased when they left). Guy Moller could also rejoin, because he was approached by several donors, but he refused all offers. Yes, he was contacted by Les Marquis and used to promote them in Kinshasa and even represented them during the first Maisha Parc-meeting. But he left hem when he saw that they weren't serious (the moment that Bill came in Kinshasa and starting rehearsing with the musicians recruited by his staff in Ngiri-Ngiri, Ferre Gola coming a few days after him and rehearsing on his own with musicians at Bibi Play).

Victoria Eleison returned  end-July 2003, after spending 21 months in Europe. Knowing that those fancy-fairs and FIKIN would start and that it would boost their return more, since that they were a little bit doubting about themselves. That's why Koffi criticized them, saying that Emeneya hadn't the right to brag about those pleins, because he just came in the period when you alot of activities in Kinshasa. Victoria had also to perform at Stade des Martyrs. But they saw their event being cancelled by authorities, who didnt want to have concerts there anymore since the one of Werrason at the beginning of the year, which recreated alot of damage. 

I dont remember the date, but it must the late 2002 or 2003. That disc got never released. Contre-Attaque who they made as preview disc so difficult to find.


Oh I never knew Emeneya and Victoria were still in Europe when the ngulu affaire started.

I always find it crazy the way almost every singerd stayed in Europe despite being paid during the tour. I think is sad for Zoe Bella and Swet Ellesse to having left Victoria one year before the release of Le Jour le Plus Long. Maybe they were tired of waiting. I remember seeing a video of a Swet Ellesse song around 2007-2008 in YouTube. Did he release an album or a maxi single ?

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No, because when all those problems started, Emeneya was almost 2 years in Europe with Victoria Eleison. But it possible that a donor who was close to them could have done that job. Most end up by leaving the end and waiting for Emeneya to return. They all returned except Guy Moller himself and Eric Masudi, Sampaio who left as first artists wanted also to rejoin Victoria, but he was approached by Papa Wemba.

It was actually the generic of Contre-Attaque who was used in Effrakata, but many people mistake it for Systeme ya Ba Chinois, because that album-title was promoted alot. I think that it was that Chibida Dumbu of Wenge Tonya Tonya who sold those parts also to them, because he's the creator of most partition that we heard in the Effrakata-generics (Effrakta & Generation Bercy).

I thought Eric Masudi returned briefly to Victoria from 2003 to 2004.
Système Ya Ba Chinois was supposed to be released in 2002 or 2003 ?
Guy Moller was left alone when Zoé Bella and Swet Ellesse went back to Victoria when they returned from Europe in January 2003, he struggled to release Mot de Passe in 2006, did he also tried to join les Marquis in 2005 ? I always prefered him as an atalaku.

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I finally get to know why he wasn't in Alerte Générale. Celeo did him dirty too.

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