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Congolese Music / OHHH AMBASSY LEAVING F VICTEAM?
« on: April 10, 2024, 13:45 »

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In short he is talking about his"uncle" the best friend of his dad djouna mumbafu and that all that generation of  OG atalakus passed through percussions first(mbonda,lokole,ngongi and co) and all are very strong at it and that ekokota was the one who remained from their group and he joined wenge through his late uncle elpaso who was wenge's drummer
he had a loooooooot of praise for yaya londa djouna's older brother saying that he was an exceptional singer and that he was very influential on pepe kalle and madilu's techniques of singing over the years he was their underground coach
he said that his grandfather and ferre's dad were workmates and close friends and actually missed out on joining ok jazz because of their women of then coming to cause trouble out of jealousy and that they ended up being franco's shadow writers
he talked about how gifted was his own family starting with his older uncle osée mavuzi who wrote a lot for madilu and pepe kalle and was fofo le collegien's close friend but chose to go to army
then about his younger uncle levieux mavuzi saying he is the creator of ndombolo which surprised mbuta and reveals that that name comes from a spiritual book ndombo olo  or something like that which his great grandmother was praying with and levieux who was her favorite grandchildren was often learning a lot of things
he explained that both the animation and the dance started from him and that the kibinda nkoy dance was the roots of ndombolo dance he inspired himself from judo guys and their moves then the monkey dance and (the variations then developped in wenge by bouro seguin and late souzy versace) and that he had originally given it to radja kula and station japan in order to change their style of dance which was rarely about waist but more often about physical choreography but japonais took it to wenge musica,same with yungana which were levieux animation and dance only
levieux was also somono's friend and main provider  throughout his career and he said his uncle levieux is very demanding he can come to a group when called upon and literally decide who will play what and which atalaku should do it
he only rates atalakus who can match ngongi rhythm well which are guys like genta who was trained  in the junior section bana odeon and arumbaya groups which raised late nono,bebe atalaku ditutala djouna ekokota  so he has it natural
and he gives example of some atalakus who had to adapt to be able to do levieux' work,giving the examples of bill who had to be coached by thierry synthé to make that crucial transformation which turned him into the guy who traumatized for ever a lot of congolese people,or the example of brigade and kerozene  who he had actually did not want koffi to use for his creations and he did not rate them until brigade learned the right ngongi tempo and became who he became later on to beautifully reproduce his work
he also gave example of bercy who had to learne it which shaped his most recent form of animation which he started from fleche ingeta(you'll notice that ngongi is HEAVY on that generique probably the loudest ngongi has ever been on a maison mere generique)
he then emphasized on levieux collaboration with jb  talking about the fact that him and jb had fallen out at some point because he was not received the money he had to receive for his work on th and internet  and when werra did tindika lokito jb was on immense pressure to counter from the primus admins and what he was coming with from his atalakus was not convincing the primus guys  so jb contacted levieux via his elder brother mosaka  but levieux being a strong character refused and what ended up convincing him is mosaka  telling their mother who was in terminal stage of illness that his job was in jeopardy if levieux who had the responsability of paying insulin for her every month refused to come and do the job  and she convinced him
so he came with pelisa nguasuma from start to finish  and kindingu fimbu ya mukolo is not a stick or a belt or whatever like that like the name suggests as to say its a big slap towards the rivals,but rather it was some sort of weed he had smoked that day to attract inspiration which he named like that and he primus guys were so happy that they wanted to reward him with a house knowing that they had then got what would counter tindika lokito but he never received that house papers from jb(jb used it to try to get madam back home according to the inside story i had heard years ago)
and he was upset with jb again,because he had grown up and the gifts were not enough anymore as he had grown then when werra switched to primus he did changement de frequence generique and even though it was not that much of a success compared to tindika lokito and they style were not liking the generique proposed by genta which was of genta's old identity of faster more impro-oriented animation so the primus guys asked if they could call that guy who came with pelisa nguasuma and jb then had to convince levieux again who had that roots zaiko like style of generique which primus guys like and he came and literally created the generique in front of them and then  went to studio with them to decided who would do what and how to make it have the result he wanted
and his most recent collaboration with jb is zebuka
he wonders why his friend heritier does not work with levieux to sort forever his generiques issues and that ambulance would fit the ngongi style that levieux builds his generiques on since ambulance was trained by djouna mumbafu  and also why fally does not use levieux for his generiques because he already copied levieux on his style of dancing,and that a lot of people dont know it but fally is carbon copy of levieux' dancing and that fally is from kintambo with one house between theirs and the one of fally's mother its later that he moved to bandal and heritier is the reverse born and raised in bandal next to his friend cambodge then came to kintambo
levieux also worked with ferre on his primus generiques and he witness himself how ferre took time to master levieux' choreography of the second one with that siki koko dance and its probably in the collaboration with ferre that he received the better reward among leaders(apart from the fact genta bought him a car)

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Congolese Music / SO THIS WAS THE REAL MEANING OF NDOMBOLO
« on: April 09, 2024, 01:00 »


the level of information here is insane,i will translate later but i think a lot might surprise people
one of them is the real meaning of ndombolo animation which was created by his uncle levieux mavuzi

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Congolese Music / Re: GUITAR EXPLAINATION OF KILA MOGROSSO
« on: April 07, 2024, 23:10 »
probably the first "unconventional"partition of then which made even big bosses who used to be ashamed of dancing completely loosen up,before malewa(unconventional in terms of the fact its not straight sebene like ndombolo kiwanzenza koyimbiko even kisanola was quite active as rhythm)

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Congolese Music / Re: Yannick Dindo is now with Light Music
« on: April 07, 2024, 10:26 »
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lol so now his former bandmate of laviniora esthetique when fabregas was still an atalaku called "etudiant" will now be his boss,will he also call him "mon papa" now since our artists are so obsessed with unnecessary praise and worship

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yes long ago probably the end of last year or the early start of this one

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that person is calling afara's friend pretending to be afara and about to go in studio and  that the friend is meant to send him money for mabanga while the real afara is sitting next hahaha what a glorious way to be put on blast

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it was meant to happen at the martyrs werra even had his spectacular entrance planned(haha man sent seguin to look for a caterpillar of gardeners in order to have his entrance with that and fireworks) and his bodyguards already there  but its the ferre staff who convinced him that it was not a good idea because werra is such a big star that it would belittle the "miracle" ferre did if the spotlight all went to the werra public reconciliation

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Unfortunately thats common with our musicians,just look at diego cao does he look like somebody his family is still backing and trying to  get back  on track or more like somebody who has been pissing them off for over a decade since he does not tour with maison mere anymore and then left,so never has money when they need for him(not a dig at maison mere AT ALL)
some families even believe  that you are lying when you say you have nothing and some go as far as cursing you or doing witchcraft on you

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werra and kakol are normally surprise guests and it could be possible that  koffi heard since our music is full of snitches and then anticipated know it would rattle clan wenge and fally fans and potentially cancel werra's arrival,that is the polemic theory in the secret of the industry
but then like quadra said in itself there is nothing too bad about it its rather the consequences which will likely happen from the polemic point of view which make it a questionable move

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i was watching this morning mosaka's son blana who is his childhood friend from kintambo saying that his real name was ruffin endolomo i was surprised to hear that he was a day one member of the group and that he knew the songs better than anybody in the band including his boss because he was a hardcore fan of him(our musicians once they reach the 100 songs mark tend to forget sometimes their own lyrics and need a couple of their musicians to remind them)and that he started being depressed and drinking heavily because everybody he's welcomed in the band had seen tours and even europe several times for some while he only ever went to brazza once or twice and that he advised him to leave because maybe his luck was just not there and that if it was risking to break relationship with his lifelong vieux fally to join quartier latin he could have gone to la team wata of their childhood friend heritier,he had been serving suspension and on the day he returned he outdanced everybody and fally give him 200 dollars then he was in such a mix of some sort of relief  and depression that he drank both to celebrate and to forget his sorrows aswell and instead of passing by a door he climbed the wall and landed awkwardly on his neck and it was over
he still lived with his parents and since he was not bringing "enough pleasure" with the reward of his job his dad to punish him despite being a 40+ guy decided that the door would be locked early compared to the hours the concerts start and end so he always had to climb but that time he was so upset and drunk that he was not in his best conditions of awareness
and that he was suspended by atele because atele called him to come to a first team rehearsal to help them with the lyrics and was pissed and gave him a "rude" answer that he never calls him for trips abroad but only for lyrics and  its when fally came to kin that he removed atele's suspension since the guy had really good memory and would help out in rehearsals with the choreography they rehearsed and the lyrics of the 7 8 albums they have
surprised to hear that he was also in bcbg along with nathan

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He reveals that after the collapse of their group of young atalakus the have created another one which has atalakus from the OG's like bebe atalaku ditutala djouna mumbafu to the most recent ones,and they are discussing on a lot of common project and some of them might even form an hybrid band which operates between kin and paris and helps those who will be less active to become active again or projects to help each other in case of struggles(him genta and eclipse for example are trying to convince them to organise a fundraising for diego cao whose state has really worsened and his addiction to alcohol reaching a new level)
and that brigade and apoca are now his good friends and they talk even outside the group until late in the night and they have understood that it was not worth it to do what they were doing to please their pire vieux of quartier latin(fally)
other than that it was pretty much typical celeo answering according to the temperature of the moment on what happens behind the scenes,like about heritier where he refused to say positive stuff on heritier's album after hearing what heritier says behind the scenes and also said that he had stopped interviews for a long time because he felt ashamed to see that innoss b who is barely older than their children sounded more mature that some of them
towards the end he got asked about marcosins ipupa starting music and he said that's like his children so he gives full support children are outside of the beefs and he wishes him well for his career he's started with approval of his dad and he hopes he wont be dragged into congolese mentality he needs to follow the french based artists and not try to repeat the same mistakes as his "fathers" and he loves him and he wishes apart from music he can aswell make a statement gesture by uniting the children of his dad who have been forced to be split because of their mothers rivalry

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Promising,keep it up,i would have loved to give you chai's contact but i have lost it if i find i will share with you

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https://mbote.cd/celebrites/ferre-gola-signe-un-accord-de-collaboration-avec-adidas/158341/

Lowkey he is starting to adress things which he was expected to do "like the rival" and very very criticized for

Congrats to him, this is huge from a cultural impact standpoint. The so called "Warriors - Tojours D'Attaque" are already pissed



Why would a ‘superior’ always attack someone every one agrees is way below him?


Thats unfortunately the "DNA" of our music,whoever sees himself in position of superiority to the other has a tendency of wanting the other to disappear if possible,taking the edge is never enough,and this goes even before fally and ferre started professional music
like a big artist once said in private "you have to make sure the other is like at the other extreme of a pipeline of several kilometers and if he can sink  so be it ,which is why our music is sooo toxic,even among those who get along well there is a superiority complex hanging around which can switch things quick if you are starting to move "beyond their control"
for example an artist who is usually getting 5 minutes of spotlight here and there from an elder leader and is over the moon with that,the day he brings his band to europe and is no more in the constantly begging position and trying to build his own legacy it can change things easily

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