@EMOBCBG said:
Sly, this is not a small thing, its serious because these guys are in a political argument and can even kill looking at the way they talk on video. Secondly, Congolese music disturbed, has a potential to cause less revenue to artists and their employees and indirectly, to the Congolese Governments who benefit from the music, and Beer Giants who make Primus and Skol...thats the mix.

The authorities in those countries were the idiots are, need to be reminded by Kabila of the need to act, then things will work. And the police in those countries also need a network to understand the group fully, ie which countries are mostly affected, who is connected to who and so fourth.

It is a very simple matter especially here in the UK, if someone had to be serious and follow up and gather evidence and present a dossier to Police here like Werrasonique de Zim wanted to do, these chaps would be arrested one by one and those with no strong cases of being here in the UK would be sent back to Congo after spending time in jail here. The chaps are not terrorists but threatening violence etc is another case,the likes of Bokestshu who go on youtube and make death threats against kabila would have been arrested by now.

@EMOBCBG said:
What you guys do not want to admit is that this problem has now become a war and since the diaspora or Europe is being used as a proxy land to use for revenge and fighting by Combattants, the only solution is through bilateral means. Paris, Belgium or London, SA etc needs to be engaged by the Kinshasa Government and use Interpol to deal with these chaps. Its that simple and I am shocked that Mr. Kabila is not doing anything to deal with these terrorists...Artists or fans can unite, but if Governments are not involved, nothing tangible will come out of the effort.

Interpol does not come in,the chaps can be dealt with by Police in the respective countries they currently reside in, all these chaps are just ordinary chaps with no weapons and when they've assaulted musicians like Papy Kakol, they should have been reported to Police, the threats they give on youtube can also go against them as Werrasonique de Zim suggested since the idiots don't hide their faces.

Kabila does not need to come in, there is no need to as it is a small matter it's only that the musicians themselves are a bit dull to realise that they can actually fight and win this battle legally. If they went to court and an order was put in place that these idiots are arrested if they show up at concerts, you would see how they would run and go underground as probably most of them are just seeking their papers, they have no legal status to be where they are,only a minority moreover causing terror in a foreign country as a foreigner has it's own consequences.

@EMOBCBG said:
I still have not listened to this but to be honest these days an artist can only make money through concerts......surely, all the songs and video uploaded on youtube?

Yes, if you want to make your songs popular then better flood them on the market, no one buys this shit anymore, too many rhumbas all sounding the fucking same and weak generiques so there is no loss but gain when they are put on youtube,it makes it easier for people to follow the songs and dance steps easier at concerts.

@archos said:
wazekwa had  filed a complaint officially and was really determined to  go until the end but his staff told him to withdraw it and talk with combattants,if he knew that one year after that nothing had changed and they still did not want to talk he would not have listened to his staff

I think Wazekwa needs to push others to go after these chaps head on in court.

If you look at most succeesful musicians from Congo these days, most of them have links to Papa Wemba, he's not directly involved in causing break ups of bands but he probably gives honest and sound business advice that it's better to be a solo artist or have a band with fewer leaders than being a band with 6 leaders and the leaders always bickering as they fight for power. These days it's just illogical to be a group act especially with the current scenario where musicians cannot even tour due to the so called combattants who are up against them. It's best to be a solo artist and put food on your table and have change to do other businesses, JB Mpiana, Werrason, Ferre Gola and Fally Ipupa are shining examples.

@archos said:
lol yeah he is well capable,in the last tour he took 11 non-artists,that's too much,especially with the restricted visas of these days,it was nice when they got 80 visas like in bercy days,but not now

Yeah. I guess the journalists pay a lot of money to be assisted to go to Europe.

I will listen in full over the weekend but so far am disappointed, I have been sampling and only listened to one sebene and the closing song a forklore one,the rest are rhumbas so nothing new really. The generique sounds like a continuation of his older generiques,the arrangement is the same and so is the sound quality.

Fire for fire!!! We need lawyers amongst the music fans to team up with musicians and get combattants locked up one by one!