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It smees that he can talk anymore  :'(

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Wow I'm really learning I wonder if any of them got caught but Niarcos success lasted from 1978 until 1989 I heard an oillness endend his life somewhere in early January 1995 papa wemba sang songs for his memory on the 18th anniversary vhs.

They were often caught. Niarcos was spending often times in jail and the others to. He died in jail. Some people said that he died of illness other say that it was suicide. Only his close friends know it. But it smeems that it was suicide, because 3 years ago I saw a video of Madison or i don't remember who his name was and he said that he killed himself because his friends Bozi and Wemba were ungrateful and calling them yuma's etc.

His succes ended a little bit, after problems started between him and Wemba. Because of being angry the way Niarcos humilated him during the concert at Palais du Peuple. After that Stervos tried to send people to reconcile with Wemba, but Wemba refused which made the concerts they had to give with him, Bozi and Emeneya in Brazzaville, Pointe Noire, Matadi and Boma being cancelled. Wemba returned to Paris and send Niarcos's rival Modogo to diss him very hard. After they went to record Place Vendome where they attacked Niarcos very strong.


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@mvulusi96

Could you reupload the booklet for Shalai? The other forum post doesn't make the picture viewable

I didn't upload that, that somebody else, I think Congolitude or Granpretre. I only uploaded B.E.K.

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So Niarcos never earned clothes himself?

Sometimes, but in the most cases in and his friends went deeply in the night to do some burglaries, coming back with 80 leather jackets, alot of shoes or other things. If a band like Victoria Eleison or Viva La Musica came for a tour in Europe then those stores wouldn't be safe lol. Didn't you know the sapeurs of that era didn't had clean hands ? Most sapeurs were drugdealers, thiefs, other doing fraud, etc. Some of those old sapeurs and people known for mabanga are also praud to say that on the tv or youtube-videos. Btw the way alot of Stervos's friends were dangerous criminals, the most were killed in 1974 in the Stade de 20 Mai-stadium by Mobutu's soldiers before the Ali-Foreman fight, because Kinshasa was then unsafe in those days. They were like kuluna's, so to finsh that phenomenon and to be sure that tourists would be safe, Mobutu ordered to kill them all. Stervos was then lucky to be in Brazza otherwise he could have been killed to.
Congolese people living in Europe who didn't like that sape-stuff found it always strange how those sapeurs were received like in kings in Kinshasa by the population and the press and always getting honoroued by musicians while they were known as big thiefs and/or drugdealers. Today alot of sapeurs become gay to get those clothes for free, they will date then those old rich men or those who work for those clothing companies to get those clothes or some go to Turkey, China or Maroc to make fake clothes. In Instabul you have alot of Turkish people who talk Lingala now. It's often funny to see how they try to convice Congolese people to buy a Yohji Yamamoto by saying "JB mutu alataki yango" lol.


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It has nothing to do with struggels. It was because of the sapeurs who were returning to their country, who  made them dream to go to Europe. The same thing happened in Zaïre from 1980 when Papa Wemba kind of hyponitized the young generation by letting them think that Europe is an Paradiso while it isn’t with every wanting to go to Europe since 1980. Back in 60s & 70s people were also dreaming about Europe but not to live there. The smal amount of people who lived there then were students and they didn’t like Europe, they all wanted to return. Back in those days it was very hard to see a black man on the streets and you didn’t had fufu or other African food. In those days Congolese people had a good reputation and people were liking, thinking that would be the new Generation who will rule over Zaïre like those who came in the 60s (Sakombi, etc.). After 1980 the reputation of them got ruïned because of Stervos Niarcos and his friends and “Bana N’djili” who went to steal clohtes. Just for that Sape-religion with some sending it to Kinshasa. With those people living in Kinshasa thinking that they were rich and them giving some some false stories to those in Kinshasa. While they were struggeling hard in Europe with the most not having a job and starting to become bodyguards or some selling drugs.

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How much ? Hahaha the list very very long if you take all the journalist from 50's until 1990. Because you have different genre (music, sports, policits) and those then being divided in radio, television and newspapers. The list will be more longer if you take also the new generation who came after 1990 and 2000. Because in 1990 the so called "democracy" came in Zaire which made businessmen create other tv-channels (Antenne A, Canal Kin, etc.), because back in the days you only one tv-channel (Tele Zaire).

Zacharie Bababaswe, Lutu Mabangu, Nila Mbungu, Mbamba Toko, Mbuji Mbwembwe, Bijoux Mbiyevanga Lengime, Kabulo wa Kabulo, Michel Lady Luya (so sad how died, he contributed alot to the career of many topartists but nobody came to his mourning), Dieudonne Yangumba, etc. there are so much I didn't even name 10% of those I know lol...

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In this clip, who is that old guy appearing at 1:21?



That’s their ex’manager Ferreol Ngassaki

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Yeah, that was him. He was seen as one of the best atalaku's of Congo Brazza. He took Brazzaville in 1999 by storm with his animations in Extra Musica International's first album Super Helico. The dance of his cri Helico inspired Wenge Maison Mere to take the dance to use it in Solola Bien.






I think that his voice changed, because of drinking and smoking much. Don't also forget that it isn't for falsetto atalaku's to mantain their voice 20 years long.

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from 3:35 min on the animation Speed Life (who animated on Awilo's album Mondongo)

The audience never heard music like that.

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So Extra Musica played at the Palais des Sports as well? That says a lot about how big they probably were back then. Obviously not to the level of the clan Wenge or Quartier Latin, but that's interesting. Their labels must've been doing something right for Extra to be playing such venues in Paris.

They used to be one of the most popular bands in Africa. Don't forget that they bet Wenge Musica 4x4 at the Ngomo Africa of 1997 and won the Kora of best African group against Wenge Maison Mere in 2000 with Herman Ngassaki saying "l'humiliation est le jugement de competence, Extra Musica Kora 2000" in Bikissa Nga Kayembe. Etat Major used to be one of the most played generiques in the years 1999, 2000, 2001 with Aministie Shalai and later Trop c'est Trop being also big hits in Africa and diaspora-nightclubs. The succes of Etat Major and Shalai made Extra Musica tour months long in African countries more than BCBG, Maison Mere & Koffi did in those years. Going even to countries like Madagaskar. Their manager Ferreol Gassakys (Herman's oncle) did a big job in promoting them. After the succes of Etat Major they signed a 5-albums deal with JPS Production. Extra Musica's impact in Europe wasn't big like that of Papa Wemba, Koffi Olomide, JB Mpiana & Werrason because of them not having a big community like  ours, but they played at least at Bataclan, Palais des Sports & Zenith. They tried to become more close to people coming from Kinshasa to get a bigger audience and more support with them giving shout-outs in Shalai to influent guys like Eric Kenzo, Richard Kiangata, Papito Mbala, etc. and women like Jose Kongolo FBI "Kolo Mibeko", Shaguy Sharufa "La Refence", Maman Pauline Nzongo, La Reine Amynata, etc. When they performed at Zenith de Paris they invited Koffi Olomide & Papa Wemba, but people coming from Kinshasa still saw them as copycats of the old Wenge Musica because of their name, having still that image of their concert in 1995 at Studio Maman Ngebi in their minds with their first albums Confirmation & Nouveau Missiles who were done in the Wenge 4x4-style.


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Congolese Music / When Etats Unis used to be a dangerous atalaku
« on: January 18, 2019, 13:44 »


007/USA from the Merci-album. Merci was an excellent album with songs like Likasu, Mechancete, Ya We, Nojinoji & Princesse Angie. 007/USA was a strong reponse to the Amnisitie Shalai-generique.

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@mvulusi96

I couldn't dance like that on the streets, much less film them kiekie! I would die of second hand embarrassment, they're literally obstructing traffic  ;D

Can you translate what Arafat is saying at 6:45 and onward of N'Julie? That was one of my favorite animations of all time!

I can't translate it, because my kikongo is very bad.

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It's so weird how little footage of Extra Musica's live performances there is on the internet. No Zenith...no Palais des Sports...very weird

If Extra Musica came from Kinshasa, then we would have already seen those old videotapes of their concert at Zenith, Palais des Sports, Bataclan and Abidjan 1997 on youtube. Most people coming from Brazzaville aren't really into the music coming from their country and those who are real musicfanatics prefer mostly music coming from Kinshasa then that of their own country. Don't forget that most people who upload music on youtube are mostly people who were close to musicians, who used to have a shop or their children who are seeing it as hobby with them then starting to contact other people to give them old VHS-tapes. Alot of people throwed old videotapes away when musicproducers started to release only DVD's. I also thrown away all my videotapes back in 2010/11, but now 8 years I regret it alot because used to have alot of videotapes who are very rare and who aren't on youtube.


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back in those days he was living in Moscow (Russia)

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