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With influent I mean the huge impact it had the artistic field for Congolese bands/solo artists. With everybody trying to follow/copy the style of those rhythms/compositions/arrangements/animation, etc.

Noblesse Oblige & V12 had a huge impact, but it was not that suddenly all solo leaders or bands sarted to copy Fouta Djallon. It’s only 10 or 12 years later that solo-artists started to follow that Tcha-Tcho style

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Yes, he performed at Palais du Peuple in the past, but that was inside for VIP-concerts. He also performed at Cinemax who were easier to fill for him then Stade des Martyrs, Stade de Tata Raphael or l'Esplanade de Palais du Peuple. I remember him having an interview with Lolo Milolo back in 2000 with her asking why he don't perform Stade des Martyrs and l'Esplanade de Palais du Peuple and only focus on performing at Bercy, Olympia and Zenith. With Koffi giving the reason he wouldn't get engough money. But everybody knew that it would hard for him to fill those places and that his public was more the diaspora and the elite of Kinshasa. Back in 1999 after having that big mpiaka at Stade des Martyrs, he said in private that he would never ever perform there. He would seek for revenge in 2002, but people claimed then that he performed for free and that he was lucky to have big support from Werrason. With King Kester Emeneya, JB Mpiana and Academia recording interviews to attack him.

I think that Koffi's most succesful year in Kinshasa was 2002 with him starting to give alot of open-air concerts and performing even in poor area's like Masina.

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I knew that Academia had a huge succes in Kinshasa when they came, but I'm really surprised to see that they also performed outside of Palais du Peuple in front of a big crowd like Werrason, J.B. Mpiana and Marie Paul. I tought that they only performed inside of it in Palais des Congres. No wonder that they became big headed and that those egowars started quickly. What if they also performed at Stade Tata Raphael... ? Even Koffi hadn't that huge succes in Kinshasa.

I think that Somono "Le Grand Magicien" had also some connections hahahahaha

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Yeah, but you how Koffi Olomide is. Modogo witnessed it back in 1994. They recorded Sylvekou, but he wasn't on the Europe-tour list of 1994.

About 2007, Koffi wanted to get rid of Montana, Shella Mputu, Babia, Suzuki, etc. Because he wanted to form a new Quartier Latin with Les Mineurs and experiened artists like Joss Diena, Gabbanna and J3. So he decided to not give them vocals which made Shella leave. But the rest still stayed so he tried other tactics which made Montana finally leave, but Suzuki and Babia were still accepting those humilations. With Babia not being used often as singer in concerts, but always being send on tv to attack Werrason or Felix Wazekwa (like when he whore the same clothes that Wazekwa wore at Olympia).

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Congolese Music / Re: ARCHIVE ACADEMIA LIVE AT CINEMAX 2000
« on: February 17, 2019, 23:02 »
It's not the same the crowd at Tshangu like when Werrason and JB Mpiana return after their Europe-tours, but there were still alot of people.

Why did they broke Cinemax (ex'Cine Palladium) down ? The hall had a big history with unforgettable events of Abeti Masikini, Franco Luambo, Tabu Ley, Papa Wemba, J.B. M'piana, Zaiko Langa Langa and Werrason. Looks like Congolese people don't like history.

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Talking about orgasy, to me its hands down best fally’s song. The popolipo sound its just perfect + the chorus & its got me frustrated because i’d b like « how tf droit chemin have great arranged song like this & we have weak ass songs like martens or mougoundou in danger de mort ? »


Don't forget that Maika Munan arranged Fally Ipupa's album. The man who made Foridoles, Ziggy, Prudence, Pole Position, Nouvelle Ecriture, Loi, Prissonier Dorment, etc.

It was a big mistake from JC Tshituka to use programmed drums on Moudoungou & Marents with Koffi making it worser by re-recording the sebenes in Europe which made the transition from the song to the sebene sounding not natural. For me they had just to let Danger de Mort the way they recorded in Kinshasa.

Moudoungou was the only song of Danger de Mort, that I didn't like. The theme of the song was good, but they messed the song up my singing the chorus fast "vie eza pete te.." or something like that. It smees that Felly wasn't really motivated by playing lead on both of the those songs. If Koffi hadn't alot of respect for Felly then he would had lost his spot as first lead-guitartist of the band to Mbetenge Domingo who arranged that album and made the concept of the generique, but being unlucky to be left behind in Kinshasa with the solo's being re-recorded in Paris.
I was so disappointed with Danger de Mort, I felt it was overhyped with the way they were talking about it I was expecting another Droit de Veto, Force de Frappe & Affaire D'etat. I was also disappointed that they erased Asso and Mirages vocals I wanted to hear more from them since longitima, I also wanted to hear more from Brigade but same thing they all got their vocals replaced by Modogo, Bouro and Mboshi (not that I'm complaining). Asso I think it was just honestly bad luck that Modogo returned otherwise I'm sure he wouldn't have been left behind since him and Mirage were starting to get promoted more I was really disappointed he got left behind.

I love just love Danger de Mort... (except Moudoungou) but everybody has his own taste.

Shella Mputu was lucky that Sam Tshintu didn't accpet Koffi's offer to return. Otherwise they would leave him behind in Kinshasa and erase his vocals like Asso. I remember those rumors of people saying they would leave Shella behind in Kinshasa and  weeks later those QL-fans being surprised to see Shella in Paris.

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Congolese Music / Biva Ray - vice versa ft Ferré Gola
« on: February 17, 2019, 22:29 »

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Talking about orgasy, to me its hands down best fally’s song. The popolipo sound its just perfect + the chorus & its got me frustrated because i’d b like « how tf droit chemin have great arranged song like this & we have weak ass songs like martens or mougoundou in danger de mort ? »


Don't forget that Maika Munan arranged Fally Ipupa's album. The man who made Foridoles, Ziggy, Prudence, Pole Position, Nouvelle Ecriture, Loi, Prissonier Dorment, etc.

It was a big mistake from JC Tshituka to use programmed drums on Moudoungou & Marents with Koffi making it worser by re-recording the sebenes in Europe which made the transition from the song to the sebene sounding not natural. For me they had just to let Danger de Mort the way they recorded in Kinshasa.

Moudoungou was the only song of Danger de Mort, that I didn't like. The theme of the song was good, but they messed the song up my singing the chorus fast "vie eza pete te.." or something like that. It smees that Felly wasn't really motivated by playing lead on both of the those songs. If Koffi hadn't alot of respect for Felly then he would had lost his spot as first lead-guitartist of the band to Mbetenge Domingo who arranged that album and made the concept of the generique, but being unlucky to be left behind in Kinshasa with the solo's being re-recorded in Paris.

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There were problems about those copyrights. Manu Lima found that he had the right to be credited as composer of all songs of the albums Elle et Moi, Henriquet and some of Prissoniers Dorment which created a conflict between both artists. Back in 2000 before during a pressconference before Quartier Latin 14th anniversary, a journalist asked a question about that Koffi with Koffi replying that Manu just had to shut his mouth.

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Talking about orgasy, to me its hands down best fally’s song. The popolipo sound its just perfect + the chorus & its got me frustrated because i’d b like « how tf droit chemin have great arranged song like this & we have weak ass songs like martens or mougoundou in danger de mort ? »

Notice that, popolipo used a similare rift in familia dei’s santu

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So emeneya is the first artist of congo who worked with phillipe guez?

No, it’s Koffi Olomide who started working with him since Koeweit Ruve Gauche after a conflict with Manu Lima. The guy who arranged Nzinzi is Guy Waku. The same Guy was the guy who did those r&b vocals in Wemba’s song Okoningana.



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Abel Benz (Bozi Boziana’s son). I never understood why they recruited him, he’s a horrible singer.

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Yeah, that was what I wanted to say about Nzinzi, Kin E Bouge and Droit Chemin. About Kin E Bouge, I wanted to ad that they came with another style of sebene, because before that you had only 2 styles of playing sebenes (besides that of Afrisa & OK Jazz). You had the style of Zaiko (Popolipo/Tshimpaka) and that of Viva La Musica (Rigo Star/Huits Kilo/Bongo Wende). They came also with another style of drumming, because before that he had only 3 styles that of Djudjuchet and those of Viva La Musica (Awilo, Richacha, Patcho Star, Otis,...) by using the charlestone alot, the style of Ilo Pablo and Meridjo Belobi and the one of Afrisa which they call Soumdjoum (Seskain Molenga).

About Kibuisa Mpimpa, it changed and influenced like Kin E Bouge the way to play sebene. With from then all streetbands taking it over and other styles being seen as to old.

Then about Droit Chemin I wanted to add that the song Orgasy inspired alot artists to record songs about sex. I think that the songs Nyokalesse, Katagourouma, 3eme Doigt, Cheval, Mosisi are the best in that category. Songs like Kidiamfuka and Prince of Southfork inspired alot artists to record songs with acoustic guitars.

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