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Had Suzuki not joined JB Mpiana, he could have been a successful solo star. He was the Fally before Fally came. Unfortunately Suzuki let fame eat him alive.

No, I don't think so. Suzuki didn't had a big fanbase in Kinshasa and the diaspora like Fally. He didn't join JB Mpiana he was more like a guest/ngulu. Before that he was months stuck in Kinshasa, after that Koffi left him behind in Kenya with him being arrested in Cameroon, when he to returned to Kinshasa. This was because Koffi sabotated his passeport by cutting his visa for the Schengen-area out of his passeport, so that he could not go Olympia with Quartier Latin. Koffi tried to get him back in the band when Academia was created, but Suzuki refused. After that he wanted to travel to Paris to record his album, but he didn't get a visa. Suzuki didn't really have that charisma of a future-superstar.

That's difficult to say because after 1992 their decline started, in the era before they were just releasing albums of 4 songs or singles. They started to release album with 8 songs and more from 1990 with Ici Ca Va. Zaiko has differents era that of 1970-1971 when they were like copycats of Los Nickelos, the Isifi-era of 1971-1974 which is for some the best, that of 1975-1978 (of the dangerous quartet Nyoka-Bimi-Likinga-Lengi Lenga), that of 1978-1981 which is for some also seen as the best, and the one of 1981-1988 followed by the one of 1988-1992.

About albums I would say Avis de Recherche (1995) and Ici Cava (1990). Jamais Sans Nous (1991) is also a good one, but peoples born 90's don't like it. You got masterpiece LP's like Pusa Kuna....Serrez Serrez(1986), Eh Ngoss! Eh Ngoss! Eh Ngoss! (1985).The remix albums Bongama Kamata Position (1987) & Jetez l'Eponge (1989), which had the then 3 new songs Nono, Bolingo Etumbu and Mofiti. Also the LP's Nkolo Mboka vol. 1 & 2. (1982), who were released in 1982 after the split with Langa Langa Stars, which has songs like Wedou, Bolingo Aveugle, Sans Espoir, Mopaya Zoba, etc. You had also some nice songs released in 1980 under the name of Pepe Felly Manuaku Obi & Femme ne Pleure Pas, but I think that they were released as singles like other songs of that era.

Tantine's way of dancing was to agressive. But now alot girls are dancing also in that way. Where's now ? I saw her dancing for Ferre 10 years ago. What went wrong between her and Werrason ? Because I remember that they sended her back to Kinshasa during the tour.


Roi David's first concert in Europe, after missing out on the two LSC concerts at Christmas.

Yeah time goes sooo fast talking about ferre i just watched an interview of journalist thierry diawa who said back in the days of qui est derriere toi he spent almost a day with ferre and they even went to eat at koffi's house and that in the car of ferre they listened to the whole qui est derriere toi album and then to his surprise the next song was fally's mon amour and he looked at ferre with disbelief and shock and ferre said he was the first person in kin to have that album and that it shows its mainly fans who like to maintain polemic between them because surely they dont have as much hate against each other as things makes it look like

Yeah also saw that interview. Fally & Ferre didnt have any problems when they had succes with their first three albums, they were just playing the game what fans and press wanted to see, just to get money and have a contiuation of the rivalery they were used to with JB vs Werra. If their beef was serious then I don't think that Ferre would have put alot of energy to attack Werrason and I think that it affected him alot in many things. It seems that things aren't going well for real the last 2 years between Fally & Ferre. This because of their private life with Fally doing something which made Ferre furious, but I don't know if it's true. You know how people of Paris are.  But about the rivalery, it would have be a bomb if that Fara-Fara in Paris on the new year-eve of 2011 took place. Those concertpromoters are stupid, they had organise back in 2007 or 2008 a double-concert in the same musichall somewhere in Paris or Kinshasa, like we had that in the past with Wemba-Kester and many other artists. They would have made alot of money, if they did that.

Don't judge immediatly. We saw all how with went with generiques like Boite Noire, Selfie, Nyataquance & Eloko Oyo with people critizing it very hard in the beginning, but all dancing on it on the end. Let's give it some time.

The generiques Robinho & Fabregas are not special, they are just lucky that Koffi, JB, Werra, JB & Fally aren't putting much effort in producing. DJ's having succes with songs who doesn't make sense in Kinshasa, says already alot. Fabregas & Robhino would release those generiques in 2007 or 2008 they would have zero chance to succeed. If you look good you will see that nobody isn't really putting effort to produce a killer generique since 2012/2013.

I'm fed to hear cries about sex and I don't think that it will stop. Atalaku's and ghostwriters aren't creative anymore and many didn't even go to school. Thinking only about sex and drugs. I wonder how the animation-departement will after 5 years will be in DR Congo, I miss the Ndombolo-era. 

^ Well in Doudou Copa’s defense he just released from French prison after serving a prison sentence so it’s expected he’s no there yet. He’s cash-strapped so he can’t fly back and forth.

That about Herman recovering from is stroke is already 2 or 3 years ago.

Times are going fast. It's now 5 years that Ferre released his 3th solo album Boite Noire on the market. It was released in 2013 on the 19th July.

I remember back in 2010 that Ferre said in many interviews that he was preparing a group-album with him giving musicians like Guy Gola, Marcahouse, Charly Solo, Chikito and Nicodeme Kanday the chance to release songs. When I heard that I was so happy. Back in those days wasn't liking Fally and was always attacking Fally's fans that their musicians aren't known and that Ferre would pass him soon, like Werrason pass JB Mpiana. Then Ferre changed his mind and decided that Boite Noire would become a solo album and made it clear in some interviews in 2011 and ancoucing a featering with Celine Dio. Then he was teasing us with Kiti Ya Libaya in concerts and sebene. I was really liking the duo of Kunzardo (who was remining me Celeo) and the then newly recruited Bercy who came from Wazekwa's band with the new sebene-partition of Charly Solo (not knowing that he would play sebene of the same style 5 years long) and couldn't then wait for the generique.

Then when people started to focus on the combattans-phenomenon and the presidential-elections, Ferre Gola was invited to perform at Trophee des Arts-Afro Caraibeens. I was surpised to see Ferre there and I was also happy, thinking that he was on his way to make his name known in the French/African-Diaspora showbizz. The same day ahe posted a picture with Orphelie Winter with me thinking that he would have a featering with her.

Then the next day Vasco Mabiala claimed that Ferre won Best Clip & Best song for Zazou and the trophies Best Singer of Central Africa and Best Male singer of Africa, while he didn't won those trophees and those categories didn't even exist on the Trophee des Arts-Afro Caraibeens. But it didn't create controversial since that people didn't really pay attention those awards.

In December 2011, Ferre released the Avant-Gout, which had to give people some foretaste of Boite Noire. Coming with slogans like "Toko mema bango likolo", "2eme Monde" and himself getting the nickname "Phantome" The EP was a huge succes with the rumba's Porte Monnaie & Leke Leke and the coupe-decale song Tshekele Pete featering Phil Darwin (French comedian). Tshekele Pete was number 1 for some weeks on Trace Urban. Porte Monnaie used to be a favorite rumba then. Koffi Olomide praised him on tv for that song. The same month he gave a succesfull concert in Abidjan. Avant-Gout made me except alot of Boite Noire, thinking that it would become the best album of the 5th generation and a classic one.

After spending months abroad Ferre returned in Kinshasa giving a big vip-concert at Grand Hotel de Kinshasa, called soiree Porte Monnaie.

The same year Ferre Gola came with the concept "Nuits des Oeuves", which was to honor Pepe Kalle, Carlyto Lassa, Madilu and many other legends with Celeo Scram being invited. It was one of the musical highlights of 2012 in DR Congo.

In October 2012 Fally Ipupa anncounced that he would release Power 'Aller-Retour' (which had to be a double album. A World-version and a Rumba version) on his birthday the 14th December. Then suddenly some days after it Ferre posted on his facebook a poster which made clear that Boite Noire would be released on the 15th December. Like Qui est Derriere Toi, the poster was scary with everybody talking about it. On the end both days didn't release their albums.

After many negotiations with the commbattans. Ferre Gola gave a acoustique-showcase in Paris with some of those combattans being present. After the show Ferre made an interview with Mamie Ilela giving the reasons why they still didn't release Boite Noire, saying that he sung about different subjects, which made me think that he would come with strong songs about the society like Reddy. He also talked about that acoustic-show, the death of his female dancer Vicky Leta and in the same interview he attacked Werrason. Saying that there are only three artists who give expensive in Kinshasa with people coming and there are some who are only giving public-rehearsals (repetition sur repetition). Which made clear that things weren't going well between him and Werrason. In the same interview he said that he, JB Mpiana, Koffi Olomide and Fally Ipupa (calling him masta na nga Fally, which suprised people) are the only artists where from their rumba's are succes. Saying that the rest doesn't have rumba's only seben (Le reste oyo batikali baza na ba rumba te. Kaka seben na seben. Tour oyo toko kende na bango likolo).

The cd & dvd of the acoustic-showcase would be released and sold like a studio-album. For me it's the best acoustic-concert ever. In those days I was liking acoustic-concerts and songs.

Shortly after that a satanic video was released to announce Boite-Noire, which scared alot people. But people forgot quickly about it.

On the 7th April 2013, Fally Ipupa released his album Power. Alot people were dissapointed including me. With me saying in those days calling it the worst album ever in the history of Congolese music, saying how someone could record a bad album like that. Ndombolhino said then that Fally Ipupa was suffering of depression. Ferre Gola's staff was happy and partying on facebook and instagram, screaming "to gagner!!!". Which gave me the fealing that Boite Noire would be magic. It me 4, 3 months to like Power and quickly changed my mind about that album hahaha.

On the 21th June 2013 Primus invited several artists to perform at Stade des Martyrs (Werrason, JB Mpiana, Zaiko, Blaise Bula, Reddy Amisi, Ferre Gola) to celebrate their 90th anniversary. But something went wrong on the background between Ferre & Werra with Werrason wanting to prove Ferre a point and ordering to his fans to bring whistles. There are rumors that Werrason & JB had to perform as the last artists, but that Werrason talked to the officials to change the program and him before just before Ferre, which also happened. When Werrason finished his show he orderned to his fans to whistle on their whistles with them all leaving the stadium and Ferre perfoming in front of a small crowd, which angered him.

So the next day Ferre made an interview with Mamie Ilela with him and his musicians attacking Werrason.

Werrason and his staff were all angry about that and the next day Sankara & Papy Kakol attacking Ferre Gola on tv with Sankara calling him "Tilapia" and threaten Primus to leave, saying that they had the choice between Werrason or Ferre. With Papy Kakol ordering Maison Mere-fans the "Operation chasse a l'Homme". Saying that if they see a musician Ferre, they have to attack them, which gave Marcahouse, Bercy, Chikito and Nicodeme a hardtime.

1 year long both camps would attack each other with Ferre having the camp of Nicodeme, Marcahouse, Chikito and Bercy (Fantastic Four) to attack Werrason and Marcahouse even finishing Sankara with him cutting his dreadlocks and Marcahouse being rewarded with a car from Ferre's donor Costa Couleur.

On 30th June 2013, Ferre Gola release the generique of Boite Noire. In the beginning it dissapointed everybody with everybody asking themselves how they could a record a bad generique like that. But after 2 weeks peoples started changing their minds and suddenly it became a huge succes. It was my favorite generique. With the slogan "Sango Naye Epanzani" also being a succes. People said that Ferre was mocking Fally with that slogan about becoming bisexual to get fame.

On 19th July Boite Noire vol. 1 & 2 were finally released. With the album solding 10.000 copies in 5 hours with in France, Belgium, Switerland and Canada the albums being n. 1 & 2 on Itunes. It's said that the album became gold in France two years later, but with SACEM not recogizne any Congolese artist having a gold album, I'm starting to doubt about it.

The album gives me memories about "ba cheris ya Paris" if I listen to Eyindaka Mab  and also Kinshasa if i listen to Match Kwata (even if I don't really like the arrangements of the songs, but the lyrics is good). Aaah Kin... I need to return.

The album was a succes and the generique Kimbobanda became later on a bigger succes than the main generique. Ferre toured in some african countries and was invited for the Femua-festival in Abidjan, being interviewed there by CNN. He appeared in many magazines in France. A week after the release of Boite Noire he performed in front a huge crowed at FIKIN. Which was also the last FIKIN with huge crowd in concerts and the first one without involement of Primus and Skol. The same year he gave a concert at Grand Hotel to present his album.

I like Coureur de Juppon, but Kirikou messed that generique up. My favorite songs of that album were Vive les Maries, Eyindaka Mabe, Pakadjuma, Likata, Echebi, Kiti Ya Libaya and Chichiwash were my favorites and I like those songs from day 1.  But I was on some way very dissapointed with the album. Because I except alot, because of Avant Gout and the noise Ferre, his musicians and spokemen were making in the media and facebook, also the fact that it was like alot songs were sounding the made with that acoustic-guitar and alot of songs were about sex, while he said that he wouldn't sing about that in Boite Noire. The album made me hate acoustic guitars after hearing it months long. I prefer Power over Boite Noire, like almost every song in that album. About the clips he really killed Fally in that department. The clips were excellent. The best clips are Mere Chef and Pakadjuma. The clips were released on DVD in the summer of 2014.

Boite Noire made Ferre finally be respected in the departement of recorded generiques. Because before that people were attacking him about that. The succs made him have concerts everywhere with Primus contacting him to record an EP for them for the summer. But the sad thing is that Werra's camp (donors, staff)  felt really humilated how he attacked them and they were preparing a big mission against him. It started with the recruiment of Arnacle R. Kelly who was fired by Ferre with a female dancer following him. Then they started to contact all key-members of Ferre's band (Nicodem, Chikito, Echappe, Kunzardo, Charly Solo & Marcahouse). Nicodeme accepted the offer and then Bercy followed who left Ferre 2 months after the release of Boite Noire. Some members were doubting about the offer, but  Chikito acceped it and decided to leave Ferre's house where he was living and he was then spotted with Sankara & Kakol, but he was on some point not accepted by some people who have to accept you before you had to do the public-test with Chikito going to Angola having some concerts there who were mpiaka and planning a to record an album Grimoire who was never released. People thought that Kunzardo would join Werrason after he left Ferre, but it didn't happen with him then becoming a brother in christ.

If Congolese artists were still touring in Europe then this all wouldn't happen. Alot of companies were profiting direct or indirectly from the succes of solo artists and big bands touring in Europe with their albums being hits. Now its rare to see public-concert sponored by Skol or Primus with a big crowd.

Btw what happening with Skol ? People working for Bralima are doing their best to promote Primus everywhere, but Skol isn't much on tv and on the street like in the past. Isn't Skol the main product anymore of Bracongo ? It looks like Bracongo isn't putting more energy in promoting their energy-drink "Energy XXL" and their beer Nkoy, which is another beer-product of Bracongo besides Skol, Dopel Munich, Tembo & Castel Beer. Nkoy is giving Primus a hard time the last 3 years.

Actually this was a strategy by Primus who was sponsoring various Primus Generique AD's ad the same time, Petite Ya Quarter by JB Mpiana came same title for Werra, for Zaiko

But none of them actually got quite success first because actually the artist didn't even put the effort of before I mean whole the petite ya quarter aren't like Data Bawu or Primus (Primus Ad of Werra) or Kiyunguzuna, Pelisa Ngwasuma, Kipala Nzonzaku, Biloko (By JB)

What do you mean with strategy ? By not promoting their generics their artists released ?

Arafat is based in Pointe Noire where all thos rich petrol guys lives with participing in almost every single and album recorded by Pointe Noire-based artists. All everybody who doesn't have succes anymore are living, just live under the wings of those donors and doing matolo.

Quetin Moyascko isn't a policeofficer he livrs since 3 years in Pointe Noire after living in Paris for years. Oxygene was the guy who became a policeofficer. That situation was strange. He & his band Universal Zangul were number 1 in Congo Brazzaville with then even dominating Extra Musica, but then suddenly the governement sent him to a mission in Cameroon


Shortly after that Kunzardo decided to leave with people thinking that he would join Wenge Maison Mere, but later on he made declarations that he became a brother in christ.  I found it stange that Bralima prefered to promote Pili Pili ya Mbuma instead of this one which was dedicated to their then new product "petite ya quartier". The sound-quality of both generiques is poor, Derangement has a better sound. Looks like Bralima didn't put effort to promote that EP and recording-session, but that was also the case with Werrason, JB Mpiana & Felix Wazekwa who released singles in 2013 & 2014 for Primus. It looks like Nkoy of Bracongo stole their market on many places.

you know its a well elaborate work,they'll tease you for a while saying look at x or y you dont want to be like him,trust us we'll give you cars money success dont believe people who say you gonna lose your parents or this like that
they'll even send you women at times to attract you,i know a musician who refused to sign with them and followed a girl thinking its just the normal sidekicks they have once at  her room a sorcerer is sat with a little monkey on his back and they locked the door and tried to convince him at all costs  he ran away through toilet window
or they'll come at you and offer you something as a test,for example wazekwa was approached and told you wanna really get in the absolute top,we can offer you a packed martyrs stadium at the condition that you sign with us after it happens and wazekwa said he prefers to take a century if needed to do it on his own strength
then there are cases of staff putting pressure in partnership with sorcerers,many of the guys you see around musicians have three main roles bring spiritual people in,bring women in and do whatever the boss asks including sleeping in cemetery in his place if he wants then standing on podium to transfer power to him and stuff like that
or cases  of some having success but missing something, i wont give a name but there is a young artist  who had a huge hit in recent years but was pulling very small crowds they put so much pressure  on him to upgrade his power and solve that and he accepted those ceremonies before every concert to have crowds like x or y and since they are so desperate of making some history they almost always fall into it
i once saw an artist telling boguys bompema ah yaya ba nzembo kitoko musique ya kilo mais oza polele il faut osimba,even artists try to influence colleagues thats its the only way to succeed

Girls are a dangerous weapon. Rivals can harm you trought them and there are many artists who lost their fame just because of that.

Can't those sorcerers leave them alone, why does they always want to follow them ?

I know about who you are talking lol.

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