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I need popcorns for this one  ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D This is what I like though. However it is the fault of dany because he is too addicted to Werrason. He allows his bias towards Werrason to demean another artist. I was talking about Franco but he decided to bring up Werrason. He is not alone. Some (not all) but some Werrason sickafans want to make him bigger than he actually is. I was simply pointing out that if others would choose between Franco and Werrason, most people would choose Franco over Werrason in the solo vocal department.

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Congolese Music / Re: BILL CLINTON KALONJI DANCE COMPILATION
« on: August 24, 2021, 21:06 »
Imagine if he could animate and sing at the same time in his prime
He was a good harmonist. He harmonized with Ferre very well on this song Waka Waka by Werrason

Granted it was not too long.

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Congolese Music / Re: BILL CLINTON KALONJI DANCE COMPILATION
« on: August 24, 2021, 20:16 »
One thing that I got to give Bill Clinton credit is that he was a good dancer. Even now, he is still a good dancer.

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I already acknowledged Franco as a great composer and instrumentalist but the man cannot sing, I don’t care how many paragraphs you write defending his mediocrity as a singer, you’ll never convince me. I know he has legions of fans and I enjoy some of his music but I truly don’t rate him as a singer, I know for a fact that Madilu and Josky used to laugh when Franco tries to sing.

dany, Madilu and Josky laughed because Franco would something very colorful sir. It was not because of his singing as you would like to believe sir.

Fact is, saying Franco couldn’t sing is preposterous. Mario wasn’t just a hit in Africa. I know several white Europeans who own a deep catalogue of OK Jazz records but don’t care to know who Ferre and Fally are.  Franco’s voice was pure and raw. He didn’t need to do tricks and fills, the power behind his words were convincing enough. While his singers were great composers in their own right, Franco’s songs are most preferred and OK Jazz could never fill those shoes after he died. His baritone brought power to his choral line. His duets w Josky and Madilu made them stars. His duets w Youlou Mabiala are folklores AND he could hang with two of the best top notch vocalists of their era Tabu Ley and Sam Mangwana. And as a lead vocalist his notes were clean and his legato lines were always on key. No shade to Werra but he can’t do that w/o autotune. He knew his limits but he played his role flawlessly.
Just add to your point, Franco wanted stars in his bands. He was not looking to groom anyone. That is what ya Makosso said. He said that Franco wanted star people into his band. When Franco killed certain groups, it was because he wanted those singers into OK Jazz. For example, the group The Orchestre Continental group which had likes of Bopol (who would form 4 Etoiles), Tino Mwinka, Josky Kiambukuta and Wuta Mayi. Who did Franco want into OK Jazz, he wanted Josky and Wuta Mayi. So Franco ruined the band by taking Josky first in 1973 and then getting Wuta Mayi a year later.

Werrason can't handle dealing with big personalities. That is why he gets his bootlickers to do dirty work to get rid of them when he thinks they are having some flexibility. Werrason also is more focused on looks rather than real talent which also explains why the current Maison Mere team is very average.

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Congolese Music / Who was the best 2nd voice singer of OK Jazz?
« on: August 24, 2021, 04:23 »
Who was the best OK Jazz singer as second voice.

Here are the candidates
Josky Kiambukuta
Pepe Ndombe
Lola Checain
Kwamy Munsi
Franco
Edo Nganga
Madilu System
Djodjo Ikomo
Diatho Lukoki
Michel Boyibanda
Wuta Mayi

For me, it was Pepe Ndombe. What about you guys?

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For OK Jazz of Franco, who sang best as the first voice singer.
I got the candidates here.
Vicky Longomba
Mujos
Youlou Mabiala
Djo Mpoyi
Ntesa Dalienst
Aime Kiwakana
Lokombe Ntal
Kiese Diambu
Carlyto Lassa
Malage de Lugendo
Denis Bonyeme
Sam Mangwana

For me, the best 1st voice singer of OK Jazz was Youlou Mabiala. What about you guys?

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He was a baritone, people always mock Werrason for being a bad singer but my God Luambo was terrible. I don’t why he insisted on singing, he should’ve just stuck to composing and playing the guitar

Huh? I guess Beyonce feels the same that you do?
dany is wrong. Yes Franco was not the best singer but the fact is that Franco did have more good solo vocal moments than Werrason did. Another advantage is that Franco actually wanted to sing at his range while Werrason wants to sound like an 1st voice singer and that harms him too.

Take Franco’s best vocal and compare it to Werrason’s worst. I assure you, you’ll think werrason is Pavarotti. Franco’s intervention in his most memorable songs always leaves me baffled he completely butchers them (mamu and Mario) could’ve been better without him uttering those few words. He’s a great musician but when it comes to singing he’s a fucking clown and I also despise him for infecting my aunt with HIV. Despite his musical achievements, he’s a disgusting human being I hope one day he’ll be put under the microscope and scrutinised. He’s probably the first Congolese musician to explicitly sing about sex whilst trying to promote HIV awareness.

I got several responses.
1) Who was your auntie and what was her relationship with Franco himself?

Be glad that I will respond before others will and they will be more angry with you.

Concerning you saying that Franco's best vocal is compare to Werrason's worst vocal shows you have little awareness of music. You really think Franco is the worst singer in Congolese music? Come on sir. Don't let your bias towards Werrason blind you so much. Btw I am a Werrason fan also. I am not one of those who say that Werrason is the worst singer. Despite not being vocally trained, Franco developed a melody in his voice and it was memorable. It is not by accident that some people try to find a Franco copycat even today. You don't have that with Werrason. Also, I am sure if Luciano Pavarotti would have to choose between Franco and Werrason, he would have chosen Franco.

Also, we were speaking on Franco's voice and not his character. If you want to start condemning Franco, we also have to condemn your idol Werrason. Werrason has done tons of horrible stuff to his former musicians, current musicians, and his entourage. Also, don't forget Werrason has a child outside of his marriage. Franco owned up to his misdeeds but he has children from his two wives and not a child outside of marriage. Franco did greedy stuff such as killing many great bands but in return he would bring some of the folks into OKJ like Josky Kiambukuta, Ntesa Dialienst and Sam Mangwana. Yes Franco was a egoistic manic and many Franco fans acknowledge it. But Werrason is also problematic also. I mean after all, he is champion of 12 and he allows his bootlickers like drummer Papy Kakol and Sankara do some extreme hideous stuff against other musicians. Also with Werrason, some notable people of his entourage have died including Yanki Mpuyi. Also don't forget all the dirty tricks he did against Baby Ndombe who was probably the most loyal to Werrason more than Ferre Gola. Great problem with some Werrason sickafans is that they want act Werrason is a clean person without flaws and they want that only Werrason is Congolese music. I am sorry to say this but I will say it, Congolese music was there before Werrason and it will continue after Werrason. Werrason is a great talent but he is also a deeply flawed human being like Franco was.

dany, just do yourself a favor and not pretend that Franco was the only with problems. Always, those who hate your idol Werrason will mention all the dirty stuff he did and continues to do today.

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He was a baritone, people always mock Werrason for being a bad singer but my God Luambo was terrible. I don’t why he insisted on singing, he should’ve just stuck to composing and playing the guitar

Huh? I guess Beyonce feels the same that you do?
dany is wrong. Yes Franco was not the best singer but the fact is that Franco did have more good solo vocal moments than Werrason did. Another advantage is that Franco actually wanted to sing at his range while Werrason wants to sound like an 1st voice singer and that harms him too.

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This is my favorite. Pepe Kalle was a great second voice singer. He often sang with Papy Tex but outside of him, he would also sing with Nyboma on nzonzing projects. My favorite combination of Papy and Pepe was Pepe Kalle's song Chou where at the beginning, you heard great joy from those two singing wise. Nyboma and Pepe Kalle hit their peak with Nyboma's remixing of Amba. Their harmonies on fire.

Who do you think sounded best for Pepe Kalle? Nyboma or Papy Tex? For me, it is Nyboma because those two men just connected in a way that is so astonishing.

What about you guys?

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As the title almost says on the video itself, Lokua Kanza said that he dreams that Fally Ipupa and Ferre Gola do a duet together.

For me, if Fally and Ferre ever do a duet song or album, it would be under the influence of Lokua Kanza.

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For some time, I would say on Franco that Franco was a second voice singer (baritone type). But then other Franco fans would often say that actually Franco was a first voice singer (tenor type). Now I feel like Franco was a second voice singer but he could sing high sometimes.

I want to ask you guys a question. If you listen to Franco's music, do you think he is a first voice singer or a second voice singer?
I say second voice type singer. What about you guys?

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This really sucks. I know he is about 75 years old. He was a big play for Tabu Ley before being a major soukous rhythm guitarist during the 1980s and 1990s.

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I am surprised that he was friends with Baby Ndombe. I wonder who got Baby Ndombe and Genta to meet?

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Congolese Music / Re: GENERAL DEFAO - BANA CONGO EP
« on: August 23, 2021, 05:42 »
Bana Congo generique is one great generique. Thanks for sharing. It is a great album of Defao.

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Congolese Music / Re: Did Manda Chante lose his mother ?
« on: August 23, 2021, 05:41 »
My condolences to Manda Chante and his family. I hope they stay strong during this time.

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