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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by Manzambi94 on Today at 21:10 »
Not feeling it at all, to me this is Heritier's worst generique.
O.o

What is this? And the trend of this year of artists giving us crap generiques continues.....


Guys are you serious? This could be ome of.the nost danced generique.of.the next year it is a wonderful one
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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by CM PRINCE on Today at 20:56 »
What is this? And the trend of this year of artists giving us crap generiques continues.....
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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by Jdog on Today at 20:41 »
Not feeling it at all, to me this is Heritier's worst generique.
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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by archos on Today at 19:14 »
bercy arrived when it was finished,they have started his generique already for nex month or by the end of the year
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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by Seben_Maniac on Today at 19:07 »
I don't know man. I was a huge fan of kunzardo, and his absence is kind of a detriment to me. I also wonder why bercy wasn't in this. I like him a lot only when he's contained and not all over the place lol
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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by Manzambi94 on Today at 18:56 »
Its an ok generuque but I don't see it being better than his previous ones
It is way better man, compare Carriere D'Honneur, Retirada, S'Il Te Plait with 5ème Vitesse Heritier wonderstood.sething was wrong with his generique so he made it a one atalalu generique, bringing back a system that wasn't used since way back in time, and understanding that Ambulance know.how to make a generique successful, quote me on this this generique will surpass thw three milion mark and maybe even more
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 i believe werra is not responsible for what his ex members do,but there is a bigger thing which is the system
the newcomers after fally and ferre and that bunch who released at the same era,you'll notice the system influenced them to follow some behaviour, then 99,999999 per cent of them once,they  gain some success develop the same stereotypes, dissing people ,stealing a sidekick of another artist which leads to personal and musical beef and so on,arrogance and so on
 i remember for example ibrator who used to say clearly that he has nothing but love for his young bro fabregas but like elders have taught them when you part company you then face each other and challenge each other so they are just doing  what has always existed
also the issue with some groups,is that along with talents which the guys have there was also huge characters so at times there is ego clash
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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by shamala on Today at 18:51 »
Here

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Congolese Music / Re: HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
« Last post by Seben_Maniac on Today at 18:43 »
Its an ok generuque but I don't see it being better than his previous ones
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I don't know why you treat Werra like a God


I don't. I just find your criticism of Werra unfounded & exaggerated most of the times. I have admitted severally that Werra like all human beings is not flawless. he's nothing near perfect.


If he still had the first team and all the talented guy togheter Fally success would be much smaller


In this case we wouldn't have known how good Ferre could become as a solo artist. Koffi lost even bigger stars in comparison to Ngiama. Suzuki, Modogo, Somono, Beniko, Felly tyson, Babia Ndonga, Sam Tshintu, Mboshi Lipasa, Soleil, Gipson, Gecko Mpela, Fally Ipupa ..... Do you think they left because they were happy with Mopao? JB Mpiana did away with some of the stars that he started out with...Aimelia, Makaba, Blaise bula, Mpela & many others that he raised himslef like Djino, Abram, Metrau, Abel de charme. Funny thing is that a lot of BCBG supporters complain about the old guards who haven't left like Rio, Kibens & Seguin. Even Le grand Maitre Franco used to lose musicians. For the 1 millionth time, musicians leaving is not unique to Maison Mere & Werrason. Musicians leave for many reason & it's a very normal thing.



And of course Werra is lucky, right now if a singer like him would pop up and sing like he does only God how much criticism he will get


Werra is definitely not the best singer to have emerged from DRC. He is nowhere near the best vocally. But like we have argued here before, there is more to music & running a band than just the ability to sing. Great singers like Babia, whom I rate so highly by the way, didn't have a memorable time as solo artist. I wouldn't say Wazekwa is a spectacular singer but he is doing equally good.


Wenge and Werra are known for Wenge 4 x 4 and Bill & Celeo duo, tell me what solo song in Werra's solo career (except his generique which he buys lyrics for) has stucked in Congo, in A la queue leu leu Nostalgie was one of those well received songs, in Temoignage Demi Tour which was originally written by J3 and for J3 with Heritier, and Sous-Sol Medicament by Lacoste, and so on.


First let's not make an issue out of the concept of buying music. Even Michael Jackson & Beyonce have paid lyricists. JB Mpiana didn't write all the songs of his solo album Feux de l'amour. Koffi Olomide has sung song composed by others. It goes all the way back to the great Luambo Makiadi.

Secondly do you realise that the Bill & Celeo you are mentioning are a product of Werra's solo career? All those songs you mention are products of Werra's solo career. It's a shame if you chose to ignore all the songs of the album Kibuisa Mpimpa while listing Werra's work as a solo artist. It shows that you are not being objective.



And if Werra knows everything that passes in his orchestra howcome Bonbon, Brigade and many other got seriously injured or got verbally abused or hmiliated by Werra's staff? Why Werra didn't make anything when Celeo and Bill and all the ream were starving in London?

These are some of the things I really don't like about Maison Mere. But I chose not to take them to heart. As a music fan I enjoy the music & pay little attention to the back stage mechanisms. They are there in every music group & I am not ready to quit listening to music just yet.


My God Werra is not God he is not the grand formateur he only knows how to spotlight people and put them in star place but many singers and atalaku are already formed before coming to Wenge


If these people came already formed then you can't blame Werra for how they behave after leaving Maison Mere. THEY WERE ALREADY FORMED! Werra has got no ability of "forming anyone"


You have argued like a true intellectual. Isolating the issues and addressing them one by one is the mark of some badass brains. The objectivity you have approached the debate with is quite refreshing for a forum where infantile, emotional outbursts wins you a Nobel.Of course there is always a lot of bile thrown Werrason's way. Whenever a thread comes up about him 90% of comments are always very nasty. Maybe he has done something to these guys, you never know!!!!! But if one can accuse Werrason for controlling the actions of those who have already left Maison Mere(like the insinuation that he sends the likes of Bill and Celeo to beef with one another and they oblige years after leaving) then Werrason is sooo powerful maybe he can be regarded as a "god".
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