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He still sounds better than the guys in Extra today though
.....No I think Zaparo and Unis are ok...
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What does this guy need to do to rise to the top of the pile or at least get some recognition. He does a lot of good songs that never get any recognition.

Looks have destroyed him.....this guy is good. I see a lot of Defao in his music.
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Congolese Music / HERITIER WATANABE 5EME VITESSE AUDIO
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What does this guy need to do to rise to the top of the pile or at least get some recognition. He does a lot of good songs that never get any recognition.
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He says he's releasing 5eme Vitesse on Tuesday  the 18th  and the video will come out on that Friday fhe 21st.
https://www.facebook.com/824048977687389/posts/1886890994736510/

Today is Tuesday 18th. I'm really eager to hear how Ambulance does.
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He still sounds better than the guys in Extra today though
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I don't know why you treat Werra like a God


I don't. I just find your criticism of Werra unfounded & exaggerated most of the times. I have admitted severally that Werra like all human beings is not flawless. he's nothing near perfect.


If he still had the first team and all the talented guy togheter Fally success would be much smaller


In this case we wouldn't have known how good Ferre could become as a solo artist. Koffi lost even bigger stars in comparison to Ngiama. Suzuki, Modogo, Somono, Beniko, Felly tyson, Babia Ndonga, Sam Tshintu, Mboshi Lipasa, Soleil, Gipson, Gecko Mpela, Fally Ipupa ..... Do you think they left because they were happy with Mopao? JB Mpiana did away with some of the stars that he started out with...Aimelia, Makaba, Blaise bula, Mpela & many others that he raised himslef like Djino, Abram, Metrau, Abel de charme. Funny thing is that a lot of BCBG supporters complain about the old guards who haven't left like Rio, Kibens & Seguin. Even Le grand Maitre Franco used to lose musicians. For the 1 millionth time, musicians leaving is not unique to Maison Mere & Werrason. Musicians leave for many reason & it's a very normal thing.



And of course Werra is lucky, right now if a singer like him would pop up and sing like he does only God how much criticism he will get


Werra is definitely not the best singer to have emerged from DRC. He is nowhere near the best vocally. But like we have argued here before, there is more to music & running a band than just the ability to sing. Great singers like Babia, whom I rate so highly by the way, didn't have a memorable time as solo artist. I wouldn't say Wazekwa is a spectacular singer but he is doing equally good.


Wenge and Werra are known for Wenge 4 x 4 and Bill & Celeo duo, tell me what solo song in Werra's solo career (except his generique which he buys lyrics for) has stucked in Congo, in A la queue leu leu Nostalgie was one of those well received songs, in Temoignage Demi Tour which was originally written by J3 and for J3 with Heritier, and Sous-Sol Medicament by Lacoste, and so on.


First let's not make an issue out of the concept of buying music. Even Michael Jackson & Beyonce have paid lyricists. JB Mpiana didn't write all the songs of his solo album Feux de l'amour. Koffi Olomide has sung song composed by others. It goes all the way back to the great Luambo Makiadi.

Secondly do you realise that the Bill & Celeo you are mentioning are a product of Werra's solo career? All those songs you mention are products of Werra's solo career. It's a shame if you chose to ignore all the songs of the album Kibuisa Mpimpa while listing Werra's work as a solo artist. It shows that you are not being objective.



And if Werra knows everything that passes in his orchestra howcome Bonbon, Brigade and many other got seriously injured or got verbally abused or hmiliated by Werra's staff? Why Werra didn't make anything when Celeo and Bill and all the ream were starving in London?

These are some of the things I really don't like about Maison Mere. But I chose not to take them to heart. As a music fan I enjoy the music & pay little attention to the back stage mechanisms. They are there in every music group & I am not ready to quit listening to music just yet.


My God Werra is not God he is not the grand formateur he only knows how to spotlight people and put them in star place but many singers and atalaku are already formed before coming to Wenge


If these people came already formed then you can't blame Werra for how they behave after leaving Maison Mere. THEY WERE ALREADY FORMED! Werra has got no ability of "forming anyone"


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J3 didn't write Demi Tour. He just worked on the singing lines of the song and other songs of Temoinage who were written by Bourman & Chela (R.I.P.). Werrason started singing Demi Tour already along time ago before J3 joined. I remember him singing it in studio with Ferre when they were recording A La Que Leu Leu.
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The behaviour of adults? Bill, Celeo and most of the goldrn members of WMMM eere guys with no proper education about money rights and behavuour maybe only Celeo in time is the one who could survive without Werra but for the others they have learned all by Werra, it is very hard to hear ex QL members beefing within themselves and of BCBG maybe only Djino (who became big headed) and Abel De Charme sre mad against JB or fellow members Werra needs to change administration ASAP, he has a bunch of Yesman who makes him think Wenge is still on Top while Fabregas, Ferre and Fally and Heritier are taking over, he is lucky that Brigadegot that incident if not it would be Werra end

Another ridiculous assertion. Werra is not lucky. You cannot be lucky for so many years. He has a formula that is working for him & he has every right to stick to it. You make it sound a if Werra is some brainless robot who is not aware of what goes on around him and has to depend on the so called yes men.


If indeed Ferre, Fally, Watta (with one ish ish album), Fabro et al are taking over then so be it. It's only natural that they do. Nsone is getting older & at some point someone will take over whether we like it or not. But they shouldn't expect Werra to hand it over to them. That's his daily bread too. Damn it!

On a lighter note though, I will only accept your argument that Werra taught these guys the bad behaviors the day you all agree that Werra made these "thugs" the stars they are today. You cannot dispute Werra's claim to the title Le grand formateur but want to impose on him the title of the grand trainer of kulunas. he either "formed them" or he didn't.

By the way, why are you always so mad at Werrason?



I don't know why you treat Werra like a God of he still had the first team and all the talented guy togheter Fally success would be much smaller with that said, if Werra does something wrong a real fan must say it, because it is from mistakes that a musician gets better.
And of course Werra is lucky, right now if a singer like him would pop up and sing like he does only God how much criticism he will get, Wenge and Werra are knowm for Wenge 4 x 4 and Bill & Celeo duo, tell me what solo song in Werra's solo career (except his generique which he buys lyrics for) has stucked in Congo, in A la queue leu leu Nostalgie was one of theost well received songs, in Temoignage Demi Tour which was originally written by J3 and for J3 with Heritier, and Sous-Sol Medicament by Lacoste, and so on.
And if Werra knows everything that passes in his orchestra howcome Bonbon, Brigade and many other got seriously injured or got verbally abused or hmiliated by Werra's staff? Why Werra didn't make anything when Celeo and Bill and all the ream were starving in London? My God Werra is not God he is not the grand formateur he only knows how to spotlight people and put them in star place but many singers and atalaku are already formed before coming to Wenge
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Arafat aaaaaa that guy knows how to make a generique it is too bad he can't go back to Extra
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