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Congolese Music / Is the time of long generics over ?
« Last post by mvulusi96 on November 19, 2017, 17:30 »
Is the time of long generics over ? The trend started after the succes of Werrason's Alerte Generale with everybody from Kinshasa wanting to record generics of more than 10 minutes. The trend of on his peak with the succes of Sous Sol. Then Werrason came with the Malewa-concept, which was recording 2 versions for a generic, one sebene-version (mecanique) and one coupe decale-version (automatique). In the hope to counter the Coupe Decale-virus. The succes of Folklore-bands, DJ's based in Kinshasa & Brazzaville made some artists even record generics without the lead-guitar. The trend came to a end, with the succes of Fally Ipupa's Original and the succes of Fabregas's Mascara made people bash Werrason's Decollage of Fleche Ingeta with people being fed of generics who were longer than 10 min and suffering a little bit of inferiority complex, due to Trace Urban-music channel.

Such a classic. I still the first time I listened and thinking my disc was messed up when the song beginning restarted in the middle  ;D That was really innovative for me
Congolese Music / Re: Koffi Olomide showing his house
« Last post by Matebu on November 19, 2017, 17:03 »
^ lol, Franco was the biggest African vedette of the 70's-80's. No African artist will ever be as big as he was. He was getting golden discs and Maracas d'or award when such things were unheard of for DRC artists. He even got an honorary citizen award from the city of Atlanta, GA when he came to the US.

That song, Kimpa Kisangameni scared everyone (myself included) when they first heard it, then people grew accustomed to it. All his releases were the talk of the town, in the 80's especially
« Last post by Matebu on November 19, 2017, 16:52 »
Oh, streams kiekie.  I was thinking the Tokooos album went gold. Congrats
« Last post by bencuri on November 19, 2017, 13:58 »
About people being enslaved. Whether they are traded or not, it is just a matter of case.
« Last post by Manzambi94 on November 19, 2017, 13:35 »
Bad boy this time, we can say everything for Fally but I have to give him credit, his doing work, it is important because Congolese people are starting to get known again are started to winning awards and breaking barriers again
« Last post by shamala on November 19, 2017, 13:06 »
Just to get the point ...are we talking about slave trade or human trafficking?

2003 My God since 6:42 the song goes on another level the fact that Fally does the atalaku part is something g genial, and then th e wearing, American flag's trousers plus red T-shirt, with a red blppds's T-Shirt wearer like Tupac were doing and that dance a mixture of freestyle and different dance moves from the usual ndombolo, a masterpiece this is my favourite generique of Koffi along with Skol Longitima
Congolese Music / Re: Koffi Olomide showing his house
« Last post by Manzambi94 on November 19, 2017, 12:35 »

I friend said that all members of Zaiko who died in the 90's (Zamuagana, Baroza, Shiro Shiro, Alpha Kopeya, etc.) died from AIDS, because of having not protected relations with the wives and girlfriends of powerful politicians.

Yea, they were all sharing the same group of women, so it took lots of people out eventually. The same women sharing still happens today, probably modern medication is what a little difference
Wow it is sad, nothing much to say... I always thought Zaiko, Tabu and the others were clean hut I guess it is just human nature...

Hahahaha no, no, no. The founder of Zaiko D.V. Muanda was big a "ndoki", Tabu Ley & Luambo Makiadi were scared of him. Evoloko who was before's Wemba breakthrough the biggest star of Zaiko and the 3d generation was his carreer long blocked by him. D.V. Muanda always said "mutu oyo ako longwa Zaiko ako kende mosika te". He had done many sacrifices for Zaiko. There was no one from Zaiko who came far in his solo career, except Papa Wemba who became a customary chief in 1977 and Bozi Boziana who was produced by Verckys . Evoloko was long time protected by Verckys, when he formed Langa Langa Stars with his friends, but started to be attacked when he left Verckys-recordlabel. Since that people from Zaiko didn't want to see him succeed. Bands like ISIFI Lokole, ISIFI Melodia and Yoka Lokole were killed in no time, by people of Zaiko throwing "nkisi" on places were they were performing and houses where they were living. Evoloko suffered alot of them since that he was seen as the most talented artist of the 3d generation. 

from 8: 56 min Evoloko is explainig why he returned in 1978 to Zaiko. Saying that at a moment he was started to get ill often, suffering "maladi ya mpese" many times and they then discovered that DV Muanda wasn't happy the way he left his band and started to block him with nkisi and attacking him spiritually. So the said to him that it's better to return to Zaiko if he wanted to move forward in his career, since that his wings were there.

 Nyoka Longo was in the past seen as a big "ndoki", but people are starting to forget it, since that Zaiko doesn't have a big impact like in the '70's, '80s and '90s. The Zaiko-split of 1988 was partly because of that. Because guys like Ilo Pablo weren't enough paid and started to complain with Nyoka Longo saying that if they want to be paid enough they had to do sacrifices like him, which they then refused.

Tabu Ley was is the most stingy artist ever. He never paid his musicians. Papa Wemba who was then on the heigt of his career signed a 1 year contract with him and joined then his band, but return after 6 months to his own band Viva. Because Tabu Ley didn't pay him. Tabu Ley's career was marked by many departures and shot-off bands (Afrizam, Les Maquisards, etc.) because of that, who were then killed by himself, his friend Luambo Makiadi or Verckys Kiamungana, who didn't want to see them dominating the music-scene. Guys like Ntesa Dalienst, Sam Manguana, Josky Kiambukuta, Ndombe Opetum could have a better career if they weren't blocked by him. Guys from the 3d Generation also suffered alot. In the past you had a band called Thu Zahina, who was then bigger than bigger than Zaiko. But it was killed by Luambo Makiadi and Verckys, who saw them as a big treat.
Wow, my God I had no idea that Jossart was like this, my dad and my uncle have great admiration for Jossart my uncle especially for Emeneya anyway now I have wonderstood what Franco meant in his song Kimpa Kisangameni especially on the part where he was talking about the death of his brother

Wow 1 million views song without a video and made before the 80's I bet Franco must have been crazy popular back then
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