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not deliberately both got visas rejected because musicians ran away in their last tours
there has been literally zero proper fara fara in congolese music since 2012  or something like that with fally and ferre at fikin
yeah their rivalry has been based on anything but music itself(the musical rivalry stopped in boite noire vs power)
you could see their fans bantering each other hard but respecting each other and you could see a hardcore fally fan say ferre worked well and vice versa
now at times its almost like a bunch of wild animals

I think that it started with beef of JB Mpiana against Koffi Olomide in 2014 with all the beefs after it being like that and not more focusing on the musical aspect.

They started already beefing 2 years behind the scenes. But it became public, when Koffi suddenly started insulting JB Mpiana in a voicememo, calling him Jbouro, saying that he isn't strong in bed and that Amida ran way, etc. Just because JB Mpiana said that Verckys is the boss of the Congolese music. With then the war going deeper in the private life, JB Mpiana celebrating Daida Mpiana's birthday inviting Fally Ipupa, Werrason and his spokemen Mosaka & R. Ngandu throwing shots to Koffi with Koffi reacting with Didi Stonge's birthday inviting Lutumba Simaro. With the war getting nasty, Mosaka and Roger Nguadu insulting Koffi's mom, saying that they thanks Nyoka Longo for sleeping with her, etc. Coming with false stories that Aliane used to be Lebou Kabuya's wife and Blaise Bula sidechick, that Koffi stole her from his friend sapeur Kaps Kapangala and that Binda Bass left because he left with her.

Koffi then not being able to defend himself through those voicememos he used to record every week, having not a spokemen, made him decide to bring Kisindjora back. Who then started to react against JB Mpiana (saying that he isn't able to tie shoelaces his shoes because of his size, claiming that Bogus was blocking his voice hahaha) and calling Fally Ipupa a big hypocrite and traitor for siding with JB. (Bogus also entered the beef and started attacking Koffi, but Koffi reacted strongly and it made Bogus ran away from DRC). Fally & JB then not being happy the way the were attacked, deciding then to arrest Kisindjora. The war then getting worser when Mosaka & Ngandu came on tv and called Koffi, Vieux Ebola and whole social media gettig wild. Koffi then being smart and adopting the nickname Vieux Ebola. Zacharie Bababaswe who was indirectly involved in the beef, was furious and forbad him to get that nickname and cancel his concert (he had to present his new artistic name) in his area where he used to be a deputy. Later on Koffi would arrest Mosaka and later on also Sankara (who also started attack him on tv, claiming that he had to pay his debt from JB Mpiana, coming with papers on tv). Until that General Kaniama stopped the beef.



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The problem is that when he was going hard on Fally, this phenomenon drew attention to him but a false attention because it did not bring him solid fans or very little... Secondly like @JV said he lost a majority of key members and thirdly, he released too many projects in a short time (almost a double album every year except in 2018). For me, after ya mado, he should have released a strong double album with 50% rumba 50% seben (with generiques with synthe like Zigida and generiques with solo guitar) and make a maximum of promotion (without going into clashs with other artists)

Like Koffi, JB and Werra did when they lost key members in respectively in 1999, 2002 and 2004, Fabregas should focus on re building a solid band before release an another solo album or group album
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What did they wanted to say with "Kimpwaka aleyi Jocker" ? That they won the fara-fara aganist Koffi Olomide ? Or was it just a slogan that started earlier to say that they were better than Koffi, comparing it to a card game ?
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Congolese Music / Re: JB MPIANA ANTI TERRO FULL CLIPS
« Last post by Kizito on April 06, 2020, 20:59 »
Werrason is someone who depend on good musicians to blossom, JB Mpiana only needs a chorus or a back up, so, the problem is not the Kibense and co, the problem is him.  Ant-Terri was a poor album because of recording, not because of the songs, that is why I believe a manager who would tell JB that, don't accept that quality, I am sure Makaba would have been the perfect foil of JB, My heart broke the day Makaba left.
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not much the writers who are in a group already dont sell songs to the leader he takes it naturally,but for the writers from outside not much,some albums you hear were not even sold for lets say 3000 dollars combining all the writers involved
there are writers who can sell to leaders a pack of 10 songs for 500 dollars(in reality leaders con them a lot they are often promised more but the day they are meant to receive leader gives money to somebody to give to them or starts dribbling them for months until giving them those 500)
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i forgot to add that one said that maybe it his mupe thing which got him nowhere in the "actualité" and that if he revives the confident and agressive fabregas he will make proper headlines against like robinio is starting to do
yeah jv great observation he's now lost technically every of the writers of his group(adada,ibra,but na filet,mugler)and materazzi,10 ya match,boudchou,zanotti,thats quite a lot
mais ye pe asalaki vantard ya ki leader avannnnnt voila les consequences lol

How much are these writers paid
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Just look at the numbers, that’s a lot of useful musicians he lost.
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He needs a proper rival in my opinion, he should Rival either Héritier or Deplick. That will help boost him again.
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i forgot to add that one said that maybe it his mupe thing which got him nowhere in the "actualité" and that if he revives the confident and agressive fabregas he will make proper headlines against like robinio is starting to do
yeah jv great observation he's now lost technically every of the writers of his group(adada,ibra,but na filet,mugler)and materazzi,10 ya match,boudchou,zanotti,thats quite a lot
mais ye pe asalaki vantard ya ki leader avannnnnt voila les consequences lol
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Congolese Music / Re: JB MPIANA ANTI TERRO FULL CLIPS
« Last post by archos on April 06, 2020, 20:25 »
ego also is a reason of not admitting or not realising having lost hunger,no artist has ever done that in DRC is a taboo like songs authors,while in reaiity having 40 years of career like many do is hard to achieve without periods of lack of self confidence,questioning everything and so on,its something totally normal and its the reason why in western music some even struggle to reach 10 years of career but in DRC they are too ashamed to admit it and take a break to come back stronger
maybe also because they fear that congolese public being a difficult one once you are gone for a break  you are done in the game forever so those who still have some attention on them either do the right things or try to maintain a certain impression or in the case of jb almost "rely" on their aura to still be present in people's debates
spot on kizito jb needs pressure or management
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