Author Topic: WOW SO KOFFI WAS APPARENTLY WILLING TO PAY TO SING IN DROIT CHEMIN  (Read 2459 times)

archos on: May 10, 2021, 12:46

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Here camionette mbola says that sonima should have been the producer of droit chemin but koffi called and  got it cancelled
and that musicians of quartier latin were not allowed to participate they had to hide and do it and that that album  was fought physically and spiritually
and in  the long run koffi wanted to sing but  he advised fally to refuse because for him koffi was coming to sing to spiritually ruin that album so they claimed the work was over despite koffi insisting  for a while willing to pay extra sessions to sing

Wenge1995 #1 on: May 10, 2021, 16:00

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Here camionette mbola says that sonima should have been the producer of droit chemin but koffi called and  got it cancelled
and that musicians of quartier latin were not allowed to participate they had to hide and do it and that that album  was fought physically and spiritually
and in  the long run koffi wanted to sing but  he advised fally to refuse because for him koffi was coming to sing to spiritually ruin that album so they claimed the work was over despite koffi insisting  for a while willing to pay extra sessions to sing

Was Koffi opposed to Fally making the album because he knew he wouldn't return if it were a success?

archos #2 on: May 11, 2021, 12:23

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possibly the album thing worked in viva for example because wemba wasin a weakened position and because they were performing those songs together it was not like the guys would record then completely separate from the group to tour alone
while fally's case was more of a relationship slowly going bad for years for which the nail in the coffin was ferre's spectacular arrival with some treatment none of the other high profile recruits who came before had
so koffi loving him despite a bit of troublesome patch in their relationship did not want to lose him and wanted to make the strongest possible quartier latin team and that album could have been an exit opportunity
koffi had already falled out with two icons of quartier latin suzuki and popolipo over albums so obviously even if he loved fally much it was not gonna be too different like "go ahead" easy

CM PRINCE #3 on: May 11, 2021, 14:26

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Also if for example Fally didn’t leave and the entire team ended up returning to Kin, it would’ve lead to Ferre also wanting to record an album then Soleil, then Gibson, Titina, Montana etc it would’ve just created an entire mess in the group.
I also believe if Fally and Ferre returned to Kin Koffi would’ve ended up giving a 12 to Fally and then slowly get rid of him like he did Popolipo in favour of Ferre or Soleil or even one of the mineurs Rolly Mayemba, similar to how he did Depitcho with Fally being there as Depitcho’s ready replacement after Bercy.

archos #4 on: May 11, 2021, 15:20

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exactly bro the ego wars were pending too much
lol bro you just made me remember this episode
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIdKpOJijYz/
12 with the most powerful  speakers of the world :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

CM PRINCE #5 on: May 11, 2021, 20:32

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exactly bro the ego wars were pending too much
lol bro you just made me remember this episode
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIdKpOJijYz/
12 with the most powerful  speakers of the world :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Jeeeez that’s a big 12 right there, but Lacoste was lucky that wasn’t in La Zamba, it could’ve been worse.

archos #6 on: May 11, 2021, 20:57

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lol the way  nsone congratulates him first youd think it will  end on a positive while he played with him wanting him at all costs to say that he wants an album :D :D :D :D :D :D

Franco Pepe Kalle #7 on: May 12, 2021, 20:24

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Fally Ipupa made the right move to leave in 2006 because if he had stayed longer it would be similar to what has happened between Werrason and Ferre before now. Fally saved himself from a complete war with Koffi by leaving in 2006 rather than in 2008 when Cindy le Coeur came into the band.

CM PRINCE #8 on: May 12, 2021, 20:31

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Fally Ipupa made the right move to leave in 2006 because if he had stayed longer it would be similar to what has happened between Werrason and Ferre before now. Fally saved himself from a complete war with Koffi by leaving in 2006 rather than in 2008 when Cindy le Coeur came into the band.
If Fally stayed I don't think Cindy would've joined the band.

Mfumu Vata #9 on: May 12, 2021, 20:41

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I don't believe that, I think rather that he would become like Willy Bula in his last days in Quartier Latin if he stayed in Quartier Latin. If the tension detween Fally and Koffi after Droit Chemin didn't became high like Werrason vs Ferre in the Vieux Jaloux-days, it's because Fally never reacted to Koffi's provocation. Koffi really tried to kill his career. He tried to rent Olympia on the same day like Fally after Fally announcing that he would perform there (you see it in the bonus of the Danger de Mort-clips and Swi-clips, Koffi announcing that he would perform on 7 Avril 2007 at Olympia), but it didn't work. He tried trough his friends in Ivory Coast to mess his first show in Abidjan up and many others things behind the scenes. He also dissed him in the songs Salopette and Diabolos. In Diabolos he went even far by threaten him with the death and mocking that Fally sarificed his parents for fame. I remember that Fally being really mad against Koffi and also wanting to cry on the same time when he was asked about the song Diabolos by journalist Marius Muhunga in 2008, but him pretending that he didn't know and don't believe that it was made against him. If Fally reacted strongly against the two songs that Koffi made against him he would end up by Suzuki and Academia. He was smart by not reacting because he hadn't a strong fanbase yet and 75% of his fans at that time were  Koffi-fans. If he reacted he would end up slowly like Academia.



from 4:15 min to 4:37 min (other artists would lose control and react immediatly)

Mfumu Vata #10 on: May 12, 2021, 20:52

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Fally Ipupa made the right move to leave in 2006 because if he had stayed longer it would be similar to what has happened between Werrason and Ferre before now. Fally saved himself from a complete war with Koffi by leaving in 2006 rather than in 2008 when Cindy le Coeur came into the band.
If Fally stayed I don't think Cindy would've joined the band.

We never know. Don't forget that Cindy joined along with Meje30 because of the Lily Kaniki-song. Koffi needed female voices for that song. Both girls were doing gospel music at that time, but already collaborated with the so-called "musiciens ya mokili" in studios (for example the Nguasuma-generic medley of Primus or Bill Clinton Kalonji). Koffi was then astonished about Cindy's talent, which made him ask her if she wanted to join Quartier Latin. She then joined Quartier Latin with Meje30, but she hadn't not immediatly her place despite her talent. Koffi prefered Les Mineurs and later the team of Joss Diena, Gessac and Hono Kapanga above him. It's only after Zenith 2007, when Nguanzu and co stayed in Europe that she started to get her place. It also coinidenced with Joss Diena becoming chef d'orchestre, but Koffi demounting him on the same time and her totally becoming dominant when Koffi released BEK in the summer of 2008 and Quartier Latin slowly becoming a groupe d'accompagnement.

Wenge1995 #11 on: May 13, 2021, 01:45

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I don't believe that, I think rather that he would become like Willy Bula in his last days in Quartier Latin if he stayed in Quartier Latin. If the tension detween Fally and Koffi after Droit Chemin didn't became high like Werrason vs Ferre in the Vieux Jaloux-days, it's because Fally never reacted to Koffi's provocation. Koffi really tried to kill his career. He tried to rent Olympia on the same day like Fally after Fally announcing that he would perform there (you see it in the bonus of the Danger de Mort-clips and Swi-clips, Koffi announcing that he would perform on 7 Avril 2007 at Olympia), but it didn't work. He tried trough his friends in Ivory Coast to mess his first show in Abidjan up and many others things behind the scenes. He also dissed him in the songs Salopette and Diabolos. In Diabolos he went even far by threaten him with the death and mocking that Fally sarificed his parents for fame. I remember that Fally being really mad against Koffi and also wanting to cry on the same time when he was asked about the song Diabolos by journalist Marius Muhunga in 2008, but him pretending that he didn't know and don't believe that it was made against him. If Fally reacted strongly against the two songs that Koffi made against him he would end up by Suzuki and Academia. He was smart by not reacting because he hadn't a strong fanbase yet and 75% of his fans at that time were  Koffi-fans. If he reacted he would end up slowly like Academia.



from 4:15 min to 4:37 min (other artists would lose control and react immediatly)

I've always wondered why Fally was the one that broke the curse for people going solo, because many came before him yet few successful. He must of had a great staff to advise him not to respond. Did he ever officially announce his departure from Quartier Latin or did he pursue this album as a side project but continued solo as a result of the success.

I was young when Droit Chemin came out, so it came as a surprise to me. There was just a few months btw that album and Danger de Mort

Mfumu Vata #12 on: May 13, 2021, 02:18

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Fally never announced his departure from Quartier Latin officially. It's the strategy all musicians are using nowadays when leaving a band. He continued as a solo due to the succes of this album, in reality he was believing in hisself when the album was released and wanting to stay still in Quartier Latin, but it were people close to him who convinced him to start his solo-career.

Fally succeed because he had all Koffi enemies behind him (the late Michel Lady Luya, Shabani Records, David Monsoh, etc.), when the album was released he was still in Quartier Latin, the polemic behind of "mise en disponibilité" after the album helped him with him also taking profit from his French papers by having concerts in Europe immediatly which boosted the succes even more. Allso when he started his band a huge part of Koffi's staff followed him (Eddy Badiata, etc.).

Fally tried to play with Koffi by saying that he was about to record a solo album, as reaction when he and musicians of Quartier Latin in Kinshasa were informed that Koffi was touring in Europe (France, Germany and Switserland) with Ferre and former Quartier Latin musicians, which caused anger among them. Fally had alsoa few songs, but it was more that he could get fired by Koffi to get sympathy by people and join Wenge Maison Mere since that he approached by them. Koffi was mad, but knew that people would support him and decided to not react. Then he came back with Ferre he hold a big reunion with Quartier Latin which was normally to fire Fally from the band, asking all members if they agreed with Fally recording an album, everybody saying no except Montana and Brigade or somebody else (fearing that Koffi would leave them behind for the next Europe tour). After it Koffi "accepted" Fally recording the album. Then the day before the tour he was thinking about Fally leaving behind in Kinshasa, but on the last minute he changed his mind and brought him to Europe with the rest of the group. In Europe he tried to sabote the album by calling Somina to not produced Droit Chemin and when David Monsoh was close to release Droit Chemin he sent his lawyer to block Fally's album, saying that he hadn't the right to release an album because of him still having a contact with Quartier Latin, but it didn't work. The moment when Quartier Latin was about return to Kinshasa, Fally was contacted by Shabani Records (the same person who convinced Reddy Amisi to have concerts during the Prudence-era when being with Viva La Musica) to have a concert at Grand Hotel Kinshasa for his tv-channel and he also received contracts for Gabon and Brazzaville. Fally who was afraid was adviced by Michel Lady Luya then adviced to lie  to the pressthat he was in "mise en disponibilité", that Koffi allowed him to have concerts. Thinking that Koffi would be mad and directly fire him from Quartier Latin, which would cause symphathy among the fans in that case. But Koffi was smart and knew that trick and didn't react. The problem of Fally and Koffi created alot buzz and boosted the succes of the album even more. After the few concerts, Fally returned to Europe and had some concerts (Dock Eiffel, Le Marignan, etc.) with session musicians (Champion, Ramazani, Pathy Moleso, Michel Bass, Maika Munan, etc.) which helped him to promote the album in Europe. Not long after it he also received a 4 years contact for Bracongo (Skol).

Captain #13 on: May 13, 2021, 11:11

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damn the ‘06 Koffi/Fally beef hella interesting , thanks @Mfumu Vata

CM PRINCE #14 on: May 13, 2021, 12:21

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Fally Ipupa made the right move to leave in 2006 because if he had stayed longer it would be similar to what has happened between Werrason and Ferre before now. Fally saved himself from a complete war with Koffi by leaving in 2006 rather than in 2008 when Cindy le Coeur came into the band.
If Fally stayed I don't think Cindy would've joined the band.

We never know. Don't forget that Cindy joined along with Meje30 because of the Lily Kaniki-song. Koffi needed female voices for that song. Both girls were doing gospel music at that time, but already collaborated with the so-called "musiciens ya mokili" in studios (for example the Nguasuma-generic medley of Primus or Bill Clinton Kalonji). Koffi was then astonished about Cindy's talent, which made him ask her if she wanted to join Quartier Latin. She then joined Quartier Latin with Meje30, but she hadn't not immediatly her place despite her talent. Koffi prefered Les Mineurs and later the team of Joss Diena, Gessac and Hono Kapanga above him. It's only after Zenith 2007, when Nguanzu and co stayed in Europe that she started to get her place. It also coinidenced with Joss Diena becoming chef d'orchestre, but Koffi demounting him on the same time and her totally becoming dominant when Koffi released BEK in the summer of 2008 and Quartier Latin slowly becoming a groupe d'accompagnement.
Of course we will never know, but what I mean is if Fally and Ferre didn’t leave so suddenly and okay Cindy and Meje 30 joined I really don’t think it would’ve turned into Quartier Cindy.
Also do you think if Rolly and co didn’t leave after Zenith 2007 that Quartier Latin would’ve remained the same Quartier Latin?