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Congolese Music / Re: Titanic vs Sanction
« on: May 27, 2021, 13:06 »
Titaaaa ahaaaaaaaaa Titanic

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Feux D Amour is the best arranged album of Clan Wenge
Pentagon the best Group Album
Alain Makaba is overrated, he is a good soloist but not overall good musician as he is being portrayed, he has done nothing notable post Wenge
JB Mpiana is the most talented, Most charismatic and most lazy Musician of Wenge, if he had half the aggressiveness of Werrason or Koffi olomide , he would have been the best ever Musician of Congo, but he is still the best of his generation
Werrason is a very good tactician and the most aggressive of the Wenge Clan, he is the brain behind most of the strategies. Those characters helped him to build Maison Merre into a formidable force,  but he cannot sing to help himself.
Adolph Dominguez was lucky to be a member of Wenge, out of Wenge he would be nobody
Koffi Olomide albums were better arranged than those of Wenge, that is why he had a good following in Africa. Since most of Fans do not understand Lingala, they always go for well arranged album. I was surprised to learn that Force D intervention Rapide was a success in Congo, the album was very poor arranged, Titanic was the best Album of that year.

So Pepe Felly Manuaku and Flamme Kapaya are also overrated ? Because they also didn't do anything nor joining a band.
Drummers like Meridjo and Champion Djikapela are also overrated because they had done nothing notable after leaving their bands ? So Nono Monzoloko and Ditutala is also overrated because he done nothing notable after Zaiko


 *Alain Makaba participated to
Fula Ngenge and Bakala Dia Kuba of Papa Wemba and one of album of Deesse
Mukangi in 2002.

 Alain Makaba dissapeared from the Congolese music-scene because he was very dissapointed and had lost the love he had with our music. In the same period he was married to the daugther of the late Omar Bongo who used to be president of Gabon at that time.  Pepe Felly Manuaku  for example (who is seen as the father of sebene) was in the same situation, until that Papa Wemba went to get him to participate in Pole Position and later on the Le Quatro+1 project. However he was not motivated anymore and felt that Congolese people weren't giving him the respect he deserved. He tried to settle in Angola, because he's parents are from there, but he felt as a foreigner there and came back to Kinshasa where he works nowadays in Socoda.

The circumstantes also count to the album. Your album can be of high quality, but still not being well received. We have seen it with Emeneya's album Everybody who was a huge flop, but only getting the respect it deserved when he passed away. In the period the critized Emeneya alot and said that he throw his rhythm in the streets and Wenge picked up. Comparing it to Kalayi Boeing who was a huge succes and who had those tribal guitar-sound in the main song, which the original Victoria Eleison used to have.

 The moment when Titanic and Force d'Intervention Rapide got released, alot music-fans and press had sympathy for Werrason, who recorded Force d'Intervention Rapide in difficult conditions (The civil war started, the money devalued, rebels cut the hydroelectro-dam down which created alot problems in Kinshasa) and the public was already used with Wenge BCBG due to their names already being known and their concerts at Bataclan, Madeleine & Palais du Peuple, while Wenge Maison Mere was something new, the singers not known yet. Also JB Mpiana made some declarations in the press, which made many of his own fans turn their towards him and going to support Werrason and alot people hating him.

Thank you for clarification, it seems guitarists in Congo have a challenge when it comes to going solo, Diblo succeeded a bit with Matchatcha, although i doubt if he was well received in Congo as Paris based musician are not appreciated there. I still wonder what would Force D intervention rapid be if recorded in Paris. The songs were really good, the vocals top quality only the sound.

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Feux D Amour is the best arranged album of Clan Wenge
Pentagon the best Group Album
Alain Makaba is overrated, he is a good soloist but not overall good musician as he is being portrayed, he has done nothing notable post Wenge
JB Mpiana is the most talented, Most charismatic and most lazy Musician of Wenge, if he had half the aggressiveness of Werrason or Koffi olomide , he would have been the best ever Musician of Congo, but he is still the best of his generation
Werrason is a very good tactician and the most aggressive of the Wenge Clan, he is the brain behind most of the strategies. Those characters helped him to build Maison Merre into a formidable force,  but he cannot sing to help himself.
Adolph Dominguez was lucky to be a member of Wenge, out of Wenge he would be nobody
Koffi Olomide albums were better arranged than those of Wenge, that is why he had a good following in Africa. Since most of Fans do not understand Lingala, they always go for well arranged album. I was surprised to learn that Force D intervention Rapide was a success in Congo, the album was very poor arranged, Titanic was the best Album of that year.


With arranged what do you mean? The overall sound or the mix of instruments? Maybe some Guitar playing.more loud then the other things like this or the sound quality being just bad?

Overall sound, the quality of the album is very high, although some people have been complaining about the drum set

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Feux D Amour is the best arranged album of Clan Wenge
Pentagon the best Group Album
Alain Makaba is overrated, he is a good soloist but not overall good musician as he is being portrayed, he has done nothing notable post Wenge
JB Mpiana is the most talented, Most charismatic and most lazy Musician of Wenge, if he had half the aggressiveness of Werrason or Koffi olomide , he would have been the best ever Musician of Congo, but he is still the best of his generation
Werrason is a very good tactician and the most aggressive of the Wenge Clan, he is the brain behind most of the strategies. Those characters helped him to build Maison Merre into a formidable force,  but he cannot sing to help himself.
Adolph Dominguez was lucky to be a member of Wenge, out of Wenge he would be nobody
Koffi Olomide albums were better arranged than those of Wenge, that is why he had a good following in Africa. Since most of Fans do not understand Lingala, they always go for well arranged album. I was surprised to learn that Force D intervention Rapide was a success in Congo, the album was very poor arranged, Titanic was the best Album of that year.

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Can anyone tell us who played in which songs in Pentagon and Feux D amour Albums? I know that in Pentagone their was Ficarre Mwamba, Bukinafaso and Alain Makaba and Japonese played on Feux D amour (One of the best arranged album of Wenge) there was Makaba, Ficare  and Japonais, any one? Archos 

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i know that Burkina Faso participated in Pentagon, and left to join Big Star and that is why Japonaise was recruited, Burkina Faso returned later after the split, my question is why Soloist joins BCBG and offered number 1 slot while there is an experienced soloist? is he not aggressive enough?

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It was that in 2005, Damien Dimoneke insisted to JB Mpiana to record videoclips for Internet like the way he did with them in 1996 when they quickly recorded clips from songs of Pleins Feux, Anges Adorables vol. 1 & 2, because of fans complaining that they weren't recording clips while Koffi Olomide, Bozi Boziana, General Defao, Pepe Kalle and Zaiko Langa Langa all did. If Damien didn't insist then we wouldn't have clips like the Feux de l'Amour-album

Had Wenge recorded the video clips of Feux D Amour, it would have been the best album of that decade, but it was overshadowed by LOI because of the quality of Loi and Mico videos, even General Defao Salanoki was once number 1 in Channel 0, A south African Tv Channel that was very popular in the 90s

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Mboka Liya is the most underrated soloist of the golden generation of Wenge

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Most of WMM generics during the old good days were credited to Werra, intervention Rapide, Solola Bien etc, that shows that he is good at creating cries

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So Alain Mpela will be participating in Dynasty as well!?

Looks like a Maison Merre Affair, may be Mpela can mobilise ex BCBG members to do the same

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Sly a point, but it got out of proportion, we have been told that Congolese Musicians are well educated, Koffi is an economist, Wenge was formed by University students, and Blaise Bula is an Engeneer, but they don't conduct themselves as educated people, may be when you become a musician you have to become a like that, there is a famous adage that when you  go to Rome do what romans do

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Congolese Music / Re: Wenge 4x4 Leadership & Management
« on: January 13, 2021, 17:36 »
The East African Tour that started the fire that broke my beloved Band started in Kampala Uganda, then Nairobi before the final 3 shows in Tanzania. The organisers of the tour  contacted Makaba because he was the most famous  Member by then together with JB because of their solo albums. And I think it was easy for the organisers to contact Makaba as he was based in Europe and he could speak English. So the tour was lucrative based on the number of shows they had in the 3 countries, in one of Adolph interviews he admitted that the money for the contract was Good. I can explain a bit what happened in Tanzania the last destination and what I gathered from the media. When they arrived, Makaba and JB were given special treatment, they were driven in Mercedes Cars while the other administrators shared a mini-bus with the rest (Imagine Werra sharing a seat with Caludji who was back from suspension). The organisers also booked JB and Makaba private rooms in a 5 star hotels and other administrators had to share rooms with other musicians ( I don't know whether they were instructed by Makaba or they thought that Makaba was the Koffi Olomide of Wenge). During  the first show which I attended Makaba was introduced later like a Star and was received with applause from the fans as he was very famous with the video of pile au face). This is what I witnessed. , Now what I read is that Makaba took a huge portion of the money because it was his contract, gave JB something good as the president and distributed the rest  to the musicians (The other administrators  received an amount equal to the normal musicians). This irked the other administrators as they thought they deserved  more, remember previously the administrator who were the founders and owners of the band, were sharing the money before paying the others. To me Makaba was wrong to take that approach. And some people always try to exonerate him from the split but he is also responsible.

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Kofi was more famous in most countries in Africa because of his marketing strategy and promotion. Koffi used to release quality video of each of his release, in the period between 1994-1996 we had Papa Plus, Magie, V12, and non from Wenge. I was a die hard fan of Wenge and the only VHS i could get were poorly recorded live shows. One day my brother asked me to remove a Wenge live cassette I was watching so that he could watch other things telling me that Wenge is not organised. it was until Pentagon that Wenge released a full VHS album and that year they went toe to toe with Koffi. Feux d Amour was well received but again lack of VHS placed it behind Loi and Salanoki of Defao.

In 1999-2000 Maison Merre outsmarted Kofii, because of the video of solola Bien that was shown on MCM and local televisions. Solola bien was the first good quality video from clan Wenge and that year Werason was received as a King when he toured Tanzania.

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Congolese Music / Re: WHAT WAS DINDO YOGO IMPACT?
« on: December 31, 2020, 10:36 »
This is my favourite song that Dindo Yogo participated, he had a very good and unique voice


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The first time I watched Les Marquis de Mason Merre, I was surprised  to see how their energy level had been soaked, they looked disinterested, and less aggressive like when they were with Maison Merre. That is when I learned what kind of a character Werra is. He pushes people to the limit of their potential, he make them to work hard. One day someone said that if Koffi had known how big Brigade would become he would have not let him go, but the truth is, he would not have achieved that level at QL as the demand was not as high as in Maison Merre. And that is why Werra and JB complemented each other very well at Wenge, Mpiana Bringing the good voice, charisma and good look, and Werra bringing discipline. That is why Werra was the one suspending musicians.

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