Roga Roga reacting against Quentin Moyascko and giving his version of Extra Musica's history. Giving a different story about Guy-Guy Fall's departure.

It will be interesting to hear the reaction of Durell Loemba and or Ramatoulaye or Espe Bass because what Roga Roga has said on the creation of Extra Musica is different from what Durell said in that interview with Dicarson. Interesting enough is that Quentin and Durell's account about the creation of Extra Musica are the same but Roga's account seems plausible but has no other collaborator. About the separation isnt it that Roga as chef started to do rehearsals without informing Presida Grande Moise which prompted Grand Moise to do that petition of stripping him off the role of Chef D'orchestra.

I have always felt that Roga was the real force even before the separation because why was he referred to as the liberator during the Ouragon album?

Back in 1997, it was a trend to get the nicknames "liberateur", "kadogo" and "cobra". Because back in those daysyou had childsoldiers (kadogos) of ADFL who entered Kinshasa and took the power,  Mobutu going in exil and LD Kabila getting the power. Cobra's were those militia of Sassou Nguesso financed by France to get the democratic elected president Lissouba out of power, after signing a oil deal with an American company and bring dictator Sassou Nguesso back who was defending France rights and French oilcompany ELF.

Back in 1997, it was a trend to get the nicknames "liberateur", "kadogo" and "cobra". Because back in those daysyou had childsoldiers (kadogos) of ADFL who entered Kinshasa and took the power,  Mobutu going in exil and LD Kabila getting the power. Cobra's were those militia of Sassou Nguesso financed by France to get the democratic elected president Lissouba out of power, after signing a oil deal with an American company and bring dictator Sassou Nguesso back who was defending France rights and French oilcompany ELF.

Merci yaya. I thought that maybe it was a case like it was with Alain Makaba when he paid the musicians before the Kenya concert and them starting to call him "liberateur". Lol

So Espe Bass has finally been allowed to do an album in the group. I wonder if it would have been the case if it wasnt for the revolt by Sonor et Ramatoulaye et al.

I what to hear Regis Touba's version about Extra Musica, and the incident of Guy-Guy Fall in Mali. But he may refuse since that he became a brother in christ recently. Didn't Guy-Guy Fall leave just before the trip to Abidjan in 1997 ? Because I remember seeing him in some videotapes who came out after Confirmation, singing also lead on the songs they were preparing at that time for Ouragan (Mere S. & Reconnaisance). I don't really believe Roga's version, because why would Guy-Guy Fall attack Roga Roga in his songs Force de Frappe & Double Impact and interviews ?

Espe Bass had normally to do his solo album after Kindoki Sorcellerie (which they planned after releasing La Main Noire) and also Ramatoulaye or Sonor Digital (I don't remember), but for whatever reason Roga Roga changed his mind after 2 years. Then around 2015/16, he said that Levyson could record his solo album after 243, but it also didn't happen.

I what to hear Regis Touba's version about Extra Musica, and the incident of Guy-Guy Fall in Mali. But he may refuse since that he became a brother in christ recently. Didn't Guy-Guy Fall leave just before the trip to Abidjan in 1997 ? Because I remember seeing him in some videotapes who came out after Confirmation, singing also lead on the songs they were preparing at that time for Ouragan (Mere S. & Reconnaisance). I don't really believe Roga's version, because why would Guy-Guy Fall attack Roga Roga in his songs Force de Frappe & Double Impact and interviews ?

Ya Mfumu, watch this clip. Guy Guy Fall in this interview of 2006 seems to confirm Roga Roga's story about the creation of Extra Musica. Starting at minute 15.

quentin responds,confirming his version and saying in a quite almost parenting tone that its a shame that some people need to twist history of the group to build it all around themselves(about the way roga came with anger ) and trying to take all the glory of the group on their shoulders and that its setting a wrong example to youngsters to make them feel that extra popped out of nowhere to be succesful because its not the case it took years to be how they became
oxygene also talked and went kinda in the direction of quentin
sonor also talked and confirmed about the removed song guyguy fall and denied roga's version of all the group signing to kick him out but confirms the version of quentin that guyguy had a lace which they suspected of being something about witchcraft,but he said that he was suffering strange seizure and being of senegalese origin his dad took him to prayers where they gave him that lace with verses of quran on it meant to protect him against it,so he did not breach the group's rule which would earn him the suspension he was about to receive,and quentin said that he meet papa fall who confirmed

lol, Roga Roga wanted to copy Alain Makaba by also singing his own song in Confirmation, Quetin claiming that he was obssesed with Wenge Musica. But if you ask Roga Roga it today, he will deny it and only mention Empire Bakuba and Zaiko as his rolemodels.  It's also from that trip to Belgium that he bought the  white steinberger-guitar that Alain Makaba used to have from 1994. If you look on the backsleeve of the Confirmation-album, you see Roga Roga being credited on every song as composer (except Espe's song), like the way Makaba did on the Anges Adorables-album except those were Fi-Carre played lead. In Etat Major he would play both rhtyhm and lead on the whole album, like Makaba did in the  Kin E Bouge. Quetin had to block Roga, Espe and Ferreol's trip to Belgium. So the picture on the back, had normally to be the album-cover, if Quetin didn't insist to put Guy-Guy on the albumcover.

I'm surprised to hear that Love in Love wasn't supposed to be in Confirmation and it quickly being recorded, without somebody knowing it and when being in Belgium, replacing the song of Guy-Guy Fall with that of Love in Love. Really sad that they cut Guy-Guy Fall's song out of the album. Roga's plan with Espe Bass was well prepared to get Guy-Guy Fall out of the band. Herman already being there and sung lead on Etape. They were lucky that they are from Brazzaville, otherwise Kongolo Mobutu would do them dirty lol.

Espe Bass and Roga Roga really knew what they were doing, looks like they wanted already have a split,  creating havoc in the band with that Succes Extra-song, by calling Doudou Copa & Guy-Guy Fall deep in the night to add that history-vocal, where they didn't mention Quetin Moyascko. If it was not their elders, he would already have left Extra Musica. About Roga-Roga being obsessed with Wenge Musica, was that history-vocal of Succes Extra, not inspired from JB's vocal lisapo in Daddet Mpoko, where JB sung the history of Wenge Musica.

lol, Roga Roga wanted to copy Alain Makaba by also singing his own song in Confirmation, Quetin claiming that he was obssesed with Wenge Musica. But if you ask Roga Roga it today, he will deny it and only mention Empire Bakuba and Zaiko as his rolemodels.  It's also from that trip to Belgium that he bought the  white steinberger-guitar that Alain Makaba used to have from 1994. If you look on the backsleeve of the Confirmation-album, you see Roga Roga being credited on every song as composer (except Espe's song), like the way Makaba did on the Anges Adorables-album except those were Fi-Carre played lead. In Etat Major he would play both rhtyhm and lead on the whole album, like Makaba did in the  Kin E Bouge. Quetin had to block Roga, Espe and Ferreol's trip to Belgium. So the picture on the back, had normally to be the album-cover, if Quetin didn't insist to put Guy-Guy on the albumcover.

I'm surprised to hear that Love in Love wasn't supposed to be in Confirmation and it quickly being recorded, without somebody knowing it and when being in Belgium, replacing the song of Guy-Guy Fall with that of Love in Love. Really sad that they cut Guy-Guy Fall's song out of the album. Roga's plan with Espe Bass was well prepared to get Guy-Guy Fall out of the band. Herman already being there and sung lead on Etape. They were lucky that they are from Brazzaville, otherwise Kongolo Mobutu would do them dirty lol.

Espe Bass and Roga Roga really knew what they were doing, looks like they wanted already have a split,  creating havoc in the band with that Succes Extra-song, by calling Doudou Copa & Guy-Guy Fall deep in the night to add that history-vocal, where they didn't mention Quetin Moyascko. If it was not their elders, he would already have left Extra Musica. About Roga-Roga being obsessed with Wenge Musica, was that history-vocal of Succes Extra, not inspired from JB's vocal lisapo in Daddet Mpoko, where JB sung the history of Wenge Musica.

What's your favorite album before the 1998 split?

confirmation especially the song Inondation

 Confirmation is also a good album with long sebenes, Nouveau Missiles. I didnt like for the way Guy-Guy hadn't that much of vocals like on Nouveau Missiles, guys like Doudou Copa and Herman Ngassaki getting the opportunity to sing alot. But it sounded like they weren't vocally strong enough.