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Wenge1995 on: October 11, 2022, 21:10

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Whose still in the main line-up of F Victeam? I know Kabuya, Cousteau, and Boussole ran away in Europe. What is the cause of the team breaking up? Is it staff members gossiping to Fally or is Fally to blame?

Mfumu Vata #1 on: October 11, 2022, 23:43

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Maybe their are fed of the money they are getting while Fally is progressing, buying expensive watches, cars, clothes. Remember the interview he did with Naty Lokole. Saying that he has the right to earn the most of the money 80% since that they (his bandmembers) dont do anything. Him singing everything without pause, etc.

Manzambi94 #2 on: October 11, 2022, 23:45

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Whose still in the main line-up of F Victeam? I know Kabuya, Cousteau, and Boussole ran away in Europe. What is the cause of the team breaking up? Is it staff members gossiping to Fally or is Fally to blame?


They didn't ran away Kabuya was kidnapped because he was sick of being used for mystical reasons and having attacks done by Boussole and Boloke, that's the reason why he acts crazy, A pastor told him to do a salt bath for protection but he didn't listen and he still suffer the consequences of those attacks until this day, Cousteau ran away because he managed to talk with Samuel Eto'O to get 2000 dollars for Mabangas to send to Africa because he had serious family problems, but when Fally figured it out he went super mad and humiliated Costeau, because in Congolese leader minds you can't do things freely but you always have to ask to them (since they are the boss) and Costeau didn't like that at all since regardless of the money he was receiving regardless of the space he was getting in songs he was always the first to come back to DR Congo after tours instead of running away like many musicians do, so he decided to simply not show up anymore and unofficially left the group, with Boussole I think if I am not mistaken it was one time when him and Costeau had to share gifts from fans and Djino Liaki seeing them asked if he could get some of the gift and they refused since Djino already had his own gift this upset Djino that following a bigger and bigger insatisfaction due to what he saw as desrespect slapped Blussole who decided to quit the group.


It is not much gossiping but a mix of things for example in Costeay case was the fact that once you become a leader even if the guys you work with are childhood friends they become automatically the Supreme leader and you are there under them and have to ask them first even though before you were doing trips on your own, so in this case Fally is to blame, then in cases like Boussole, or Alvarito where Djino Liaki kept pushing him and Fally against each other because he was extra jealous of the relationship and respect Fally had for Alvarito  which ended up in Alvarito arguing with Fally which made the whole group turn against Alvarito with even Boloke making a crie about it, and with Djino going on TV being fake as usual saying that he have forgave Alvarito but the last word is of Fally, forgetting that boy you aren't Fally and you were the problem in the first place. Is not uncommon  in Congolese bands to see prominent and charismatic members being "taken off" by Chef Dorchester or even Administration guys, for example Celeo being played with with all the mind games Sanakara used to do by shouting Brigade's name and praising Brigade when Celeo was present or when Kakol was not liking Prince charismatic, personality and independent thinking so he sent some goons to stab him in the chest to ki him, or even when JDT went to witchcrafters to make Metrau blind from one eye because he was jealous of the overwhelming welcome he received by the group and by the choice of siding with Abraham with the release of his album, or when Seguin was constantly being talked about by younger members because he was blocking.members until JB got mad at him because Seguin made a donor extra mad, with JB saying that this was the last straw.
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Longbluesquid #3 on: October 12, 2022, 05:37

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So we will never get a follow up to that Libre Parcours masterpiece. Every band leader has never been as good as Wemba. We used to get production from all his groups.

Wenge1995 #4 on: October 12, 2022, 14:21

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So we will never get a follow up to that Libre Parcours masterpiece. Every band leader has never been as good as Wemba. We used to get production from all his groups.

Remember, Fally was reluctant to authorize the group album, but the older members of the group persuaded him. Aside from the three generiques, the album wasn't a huge success. The singers didn't do a good job promoting their songs from the album. I'm not saying it'll never happen, but not anytime soon.

Wenge1995 #5 on: October 12, 2022, 14:24

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Whose still in the main line-up of F Victeam? I know Kabuya, Cousteau, and Boussole ran away in Europe. What is the cause of the team breaking up? Is it staff members gossiping to Fally or is Fally to blame?


They didn't ran away Kabuya was kidnapped because he was sick of being used for mystical reasons and having attacks done by Boussole and Boloke, that's the reason why he acts crazy, A pastor told him to do a salt bath for protection but he didn't listen and he still suffer the consequences of those attacks until this day, Cousteau ran away because he managed to talk with Samuel Eto'O to get 2000 dollars for Mabangas to send to Africa because he had serious family problems, but when Fally figured it out he went super mad and humiliated Costeau, because in Congolese leader minds you can't do things freely but you always have to ask to them (since they are the boss) and Costeau didn't like that at all since regardless of the money he was receiving regardless of the space he was getting in songs he was always the first to come back to DR Congo after tours instead of running away like many musicians do, so he decided to simply not show up anymore and unofficially left the group, with Boussole I think if I am not mistaken it was one time when him and Costeau had to share gifts from fans and Djino Liaki seeing them asked if he could get some of the gift and they refused since Djino already had his own gift this upset Djino that following a bigger and bigger insatisfaction due to what he saw as desrespect slapped Blussole who decided to quit the group.


It is not much gossiping but a mix of things for example in Costeay case was the fact that once you become a leader even if the guys you work with are childhood friends they become automatically the Supreme leader and you are there under them and have to ask them first even though before you were doing trips on your own, so in this case Fally is to blame, then in cases like Boussole, or Alvarito where Djino Liaki kept pushing him and Fally against each other because he was extra jealous of the relationship and respect Fally had for Alvarito  which ended up in Alvarito arguing with Fally which made the whole group turn against Alvarito with even Boloke making a crie about it, and with Djino going on TV being fake as usual saying that he have forgave Alvarito but the last word is of Fally, forgetting that boy you aren't Fally and you were the problem in the first place. Is not uncommon  in Congolese bands to see prominent and charismatic members being "taken off" by Chef Dorchester or even Administration guys, for example Celeo being played with with all the mind games Sanakara used to do by shouting Brigade's name and praising Brigade when Celeo was present or when Kakol was not liking Prince charismatic, personality and independent thinking so he sent some goons to stab him in the chest to ki him, or even when JDT went to witchcrafters to make Metrau blind from one eye because he was jealous of the overwhelming welcome he received by the group and by the choice of siding with Abraham with the release of his album, or when Seguin was constantly being talked about by younger members because he was blocking.members until JB got mad at him because Seguin made a donor extra mad, with JB saying that this was the last straw.

Papy Kakol tried to have Prince killed? And Werrason didn't punish him for that? I swear, the administration of groups are very bad hearted. They're probably worse than jealous musicians

Mfumu Vata #6 on: October 12, 2022, 14:31

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No, it was that some gangsters in Lyon attacked Werrason, started insulting him and even beated him. Prince laughed (I don’t know why) which made Kakol mad. After that incident Papy Kakol went to him and said “Prez” got attacked you were just standing there to laugh. A few minutes after it some gangsters went to Prince and stabbed him with knives. Later on the went with bus back to Paris with the same gangsters traveling with them. He talked with Werrason about that, saying that Kakol assaulted him with gangsters. Werrason said that he would solve the problem. But it didn’t happen and he also didn’t visit him at the hospital. It could be 12, that Werrason sent them as revenge and acting like he didn’t know, because he’s a master of that.

Wenge1995 #7 on: October 12, 2022, 16:26

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Whose still in the main line-up of F Victeam? I know Kabuya, Cousteau, and Boussole ran away in Europe. What is the cause of the team breaking up? Is it staff members gossiping to Fally or is Fally to blame?


They didn't ran away Kabuya was kidnapped because he was sick of being used for mystical reasons and having attacks done by Boussole and Boloke, that's the reason why he acts crazy, A pastor told him to do a salt bath for protection but he didn't listen and he still suffer the consequences of those attacks until this day, Cousteau ran away because he managed to talk with Samuel Eto'O to get 2000 dollars for Mabangas to send to Africa because he had serious family problems, but when Fally figured it out he went super mad and humiliated Costeau, because in Congolese leader minds you can't do things freely but you always have to ask to them (since they are the boss) and Costeau didn't like that at all since regardless of the money he was receiving regardless of the space he was getting in songs he was always the first to come back to DR Congo after tours instead of running away like many musicians do, so he decided to simply not show up anymore and unofficially left the group, with Boussole I think if I am not mistaken it was one time when him and Costeau had to share gifts from fans and Djino Liaki seeing them asked if he could get some of the gift and they refused since Djino already had his own gift this upset Djino that following a bigger and bigger insatisfaction due to what he saw as desrespect slapped Blussole who decided to quit the group.


It is not much gossiping but a mix of things for example in Costeay case was the fact that once you become a leader even if the guys you work with are childhood friends they become automatically the Supreme leader and you are there under them and have to ask them first even though before you were doing trips on your own, so in this case Fally is to blame, then in cases like Boussole, or Alvarito where Djino Liaki kept pushing him and Fally against each other because he was extra jealous of the relationship and respect Fally had for Alvarito  which ended up in Alvarito arguing with Fally which made the whole group turn against Alvarito with even Boloke making a crie about it, and with Djino going on TV being fake as usual saying that he have forgave Alvarito but the last word is of Fally, forgetting that boy you aren't Fally and you were the problem in the first place. Is not uncommon  in Congolese bands to see prominent and charismatic members being "taken off" by Chef Dorchester or even Administration guys, for example Celeo being played with with all the mind games Sanakara used to do by shouting Brigade's name and praising Brigade when Celeo was present or when Kakol was not liking Prince charismatic, personality and independent thinking so he sent some goons to stab him in the chest to ki him, or even when JDT went to witchcrafters to make Metrau blind from one eye because he was jealous of the overwhelming welcome he received by the group and by the choice of siding with Abraham with the release of his album, or when Seguin was constantly being talked about by younger members because he was blocking.members until JB got mad at him because Seguin made a donor extra mad, with JB saying that this was the last straw.

I guess it's safe to say that Fally will never promote his group properly again

Manzambi94 #8 on: October 12, 2022, 22:15

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Whose still in the main line-up of F Victeam? I know Kabuya, Cousteau, and Boussole ran away in Europe. What is the cause of the team breaking up? Is it staff members gossiping to Fally or is Fally to blame?


They didn't ran away Kabuya was kidnapped because he was sick of being used for mystical reasons and having attacks done by Boussole and Boloke, that's the reason why he acts crazy, A pastor told him to do a salt bath for protection but he didn't listen and he still suffer the consequences of those attacks until this day, Cousteau ran away because he managed to talk with Samuel Eto'O to get 2000 dollars for Mabangas to send to Africa because he had serious family problems, but when Fally figured it out he went super mad and humiliated Costeau, because in Congolese leader minds you can't do things freely but you always have to ask to them (since they are the boss) and Costeau didn't like that at all since regardless of the money he was receiving regardless of the space he was getting in songs he was always the first to come back to DR Congo after tours instead of running away like many musicians do, so he decided to simply not show up anymore and unofficially left the group, with Boussole I think if I am not mistaken it was one time when him and Costeau had to share gifts from fans and Djino Liaki seeing them asked if he could get some of the gift and they refused since Djino already had his own gift this upset Djino that following a bigger and bigger insatisfaction due to what he saw as desrespect slapped Blussole who decided to quit the group.


It is not much gossiping but a mix of things for example in Costeay case was the fact that once you become a leader even if the guys you work with are childhood friends they become automatically the Supreme leader and you are there under them and have to ask them first even though before you were doing trips on your own, so in this case Fally is to blame, then in cases like Boussole, or Alvarito where Djino Liaki kept pushing him and Fally against each other because he was extra jealous of the relationship and respect Fally had for Alvarito  which ended up in Alvarito arguing with Fally which made the whole group turn against Alvarito with even Boloke making a crie about it, and with Djino going on TV being fake as usual saying that he have forgave Alvarito but the last word is of Fally, forgetting that boy you aren't Fally and you were the problem in the first place. Is not uncommon  in Congolese bands to see prominent and charismatic members being "taken off" by Chef Dorchester or even Administration guys, for example Celeo being played with with all the mind games Sanakara used to do by shouting Brigade's name and praising Brigade when Celeo was present or when Kakol was not liking Prince charismatic, personality and independent thinking so he sent some goons to stab him in the chest to ki him, or even when JDT went to witchcrafters to make Metrau blind from one eye because he was jealous of the overwhelming welcome he received by the group and by the choice of siding with Abraham with the release of his album, or when Seguin was constantly being talked about by younger members because he was blocking.members until JB got mad at him because Seguin made a donor extra mad, with JB saying that this was the last straw.

I guess it's safe to say that Fally will never promote his group properly again

Why would he?  No leaders seriously promote his group or his guys anymore the last one was Fabregas and to some extent Heritier but leaders especially old ones don't like to promote their musicians because they don't like to see someone that they see as inferior have the chances to have a successful solo career, and also they are scared that the next Fally might come out of their group and take their kingdom away, it is bad to say but Congolese leaders love to see their musician struggle for the majority s f make everything so that you have enough but not enough so you can leave and sometimes you don't even have anything. All the Maison Mere guys despite Werra acting like he is proud of having all those successful musicianship their fair share of blocking from Maison Mere, for example Celeo not being able to have his own passport making it impossible for him to travel outside of DRC which was vital at the time when he was doing a solo career, Werrason even going far as to try to Spiritually attack Heritier, Sankara saying that Deplick was going to be a fisherman in Côte D'Ivoire saying that he wasn't planning on no album and well what about Ferre Gola? Still to this day he gets attacked by Maison Mere members and treated like dirt, but if you ask Pi Roger or any of Werra staff rn they will praise Heritier, Fabregas, Celeo, Deplick and all those guys who left and became somewhat successful who knows why, the only guy who didn't get that treatment but Dynastie where Werra said he was open to Ferre and him working togheter was Ferre who somehow still after years he js treated like the black sheep of the family

Congomusiclover001 #9 on: October 14, 2022, 00:38

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Band management in Congolese music is a mess. Wenge Musica MM would never have been great if there was no Ferre, Celeo, Bill,Heritier and others. Leaders have to see this and use this rational to promote and reward members. If Fally claims that he does 80% of the work on his albums, does he ask for their contributions or just uses them to sing the chorus? That's all part of band management. Basically Fally Ipupa is F-Victeam but F-Victeam is not Fally Ipupa. Looks like those band members will always need to have second jobs to survive.