Author Topic: How would Nous Y Sommes sound if Lengi Lenga and Baroza was in the album?  (Read 7184 times)

Drumstar98 on: February 04, 2019, 16:14

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mvulusi96 #1 on: February 04, 2019, 17:42

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Just the same. Petit Poisson covered Baroza's solo partitions of Perseverer and Linya. So if Baroza would be still alive he would have played it and maybe they would have also made a remix of Deception B which is Baroza's song in the Ici Ca Va-album. I don't think that Lengi Lenga would sung alot in this album, I think just the chorus of Paiement Cash, Ben Betito and Amando who are remixes of songs when he was still in Zaiko. Maybe that they would have remixed Muvaro or Mupepa who are his songs. Nous Y Sommes was meant to promote new members like Papy Cocaine, Willy Bula, Deo Brondo and Lassa Carlyto who were young and to show that they had some fresh blood. Because people found that Zaiko became to old. With the recruiment to these guys they wanted to compete against Quartier Latin, Nouvelle Ecriture & Wenge 4x4 (who just split when they were recording this album). Shortly after the release of the album, Nyoka Longo decided to force Oncle Bapius and Meridjo ou the band.

Drumstar98 #2 on: February 04, 2019, 21:05

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Just the same. Petit Poisson covered Baroza's solo partitions of Perseverer and Linya. So if Baroza would be still alive he would have played it and maybe they would have also made a remix of Deception B which is Baroza's song in the Ici Ca Va-album. I don't think that Lengi Lenga would sung alot in this album, I think just the chorus of Paiement Cash, Ben Betito and Amando who are remixes of songs when he was still in Zaiko. Maybe that they would have remixed Muvaro or Mupepa who are his songs. Nous Y Sommes was meant to promote new members like Papy Cocaine, Willy Bula, Deo Brondo and Lassa Carlyto who were young and to show that they had some fresh blood. Because people found that Zaiko became to old. With the recruiment to these guys they wanted to compete against Quartier Latin, Nouvelle Ecriture & Wenge 4x4 (who just split when they were recording this album). Shortly after the release of the album, Nyoka Longo decided to force Oncle Bapius and Meridjo ou the band.

Just to add Baroza did not play on Linya Mvuemba Shiro did but I'm ashamed and horrified that Nyoka Longo rejected Lengi Lenga to rejoin Zaiko because Lengi Lenga suffered after the split of Familia Dei in 1996. My guess is that the sadness and rejection of Zaiko killed Lengi Lenga.

mvulusi96 #3 on: February 04, 2019, 21:10

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He was apprently suffering from a disease which isn't incurable that Bimi Ombale, Baroza, Shiro, Zamuangana and Alpha also had.

Nyoka Longo rejected him because he was still angry about that things Lengi Lenga and Ilo Pablo said about him when they went to form Zaiko Familia Dei. Also Nyoka Longo is a person who doesn't forgive someone easily.

Drumstar98 #4 on: February 04, 2019, 21:16

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My guess the disease is sida who knows Bimi had it back in 1995 but was crued and it's true Nyoka Longo can hold a grudge that's why people see him as motema mabe by that time Zaīko was in Kinshasa I wondering if Likinga wanted to rejoin.

mvulusi96 #5 on: February 04, 2019, 21:18

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No, Likinga was still angry about them not visiting him when in was in prison in Portugal. That's also why he back in 1988/89 joined Familia Dei.

mvulusi96 #6 on: February 04, 2019, 21:21

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My guess the disease is sida who knows Bimi had it back in 1995 but was crued and it's true Nyoka Longo can hold a grudge that's why people see him as motema mabe by that time Zaīko was in Kinshasa I wondering if Likinga wanted to rejoin.

I wanted to say AIDS, but it sounded to hard. That's why I said "the disease that isn't incurable". That story about Bimi being cured of AIDS was just to create buzz and get more people to the church.

Drumstar98 #7 on: February 04, 2019, 21:29

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No, Likinga was still angry about them not visiting him when in was in prison in Portugal. That's also why he back in 1988/89 joined Familia Dei.

Likinga being in prison really ruined his career after his release I felt like he was unmotivated.

Drumstar98 #8 on: February 04, 2019, 21:30

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My guess the disease is sida who knows Bimi had it back in 1995 but was crued and it's true Nyoka Longo can hold a grudge that's why people see him as motema mabe by that time Zaīko was in Kinshasa I wondering if Likinga wanted to rejoin.

I wanted to say AIDS, but it sounded to hard. That's why I said "the disease that isn't incurable". That story about Bimi being cured of AIDS was just to create buzz and get more people to the church.

So Bimi story was a lie? In reality Bimi was faliling in music .

mvulusi96 #9 on: February 04, 2019, 21:38

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My guess the disease is sida who knows Bimi had it back in 1995 but was crued and it's true Nyoka Longo can hold a grudge that's why people see him as motema mabe by that time Zaīko was in Kinshasa I wondering if Likinga wanted to rejoin.

I wanted to say AIDS, but it sounded to hard. That's why I said "the disease that isn't incurable". That story about Bimi being cured of AIDS was just to create buzz and get more people to the church.

So Bimi story was a lie? In reality Bimi was faliling in music .

Bimi's story wasn't false, but he and other musicians like Debaba, Carlyto, etc. were always adding things to their story to let it sound more exciting or/and get more sympathy  from people. Some became a brother of christ because of thinking that they would die soon from AIDS after being infected with it, other were scared for their satanic contracts they signed (with some months or 1 year being left to finish).
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Drumstar98 #10 on: February 04, 2019, 21:45

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When they do their testimony they expose their leaders I wonder how they feel and here's a picture of Bimi with his band with Lengi Lenga and Jimmy Yaba as guests.


mvulusi96 #11 on: February 04, 2019, 22:06

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Some don't take it serious since that they known the story wasn't true, but others who felt that they are exposed are angry and threaten those musicians or try to corrupt them. If those musicians do their testimony on tv or radio's, then the journalists who interviewed them are getting threats from bandleaders, staffmembers or their fans.

You got also musicians who are christians now and did shocking testimonies, but some don't say everything knowing that they can die if they say the secret, because some nkisi are very dangerous to expose, if you expose you can die, get attacks in the night, lose you head or becoming very sick. Back in 2009, Cartouche went to expose some secret about Victoria Eleison. But it had some heavy consequences for him afterwards. That's also why Bipoli refused to expose the secrets of Victoria and Viva when he decided to become a brother in christ.


Drumstar98 #12 on: February 04, 2019, 22:20

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Congolese bands are dangerous and some secrets are left to be kept.

Drumstar98 #13 on: February 04, 2019, 22:29

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Some don't take it serious since that they known the story wasn't true, but others who felt that they are exposed are angry and threaten those musicians or try to corrupt them. If those musicians do their testimony on tv or radio's, then the journalists who interviewed them are getting threats from bandleaders, staffmembers or their fans.

You got also musicians who are christians now and did shocking testimonies, but some don't say everything knowing that they can die if they say the secret, because some nkisi are very dangerous to expose, if you expose you can die, get attacks in the night, lose you head or becoming very sick. Back in 2009, Cartouche went to expose some secret about Victoria Eleison. But it had some heavy consequences for him afterwards. That's also why Bipoli refused to expose the secrets of Victoria and Viva when he decided to become a brother in christ.



It's like when Papa Lutumba was very angry at Carlyto about the song Maya (1984).

mvulusi96 #14 on: February 04, 2019, 22:38

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What Lutumba said is true, because all people who were close to musicians of Bana Ok and OK Jazz know who Maya was. She was one of those OK Jazz-fanatics and her man was a big donor, but since that alot of didn't know who she was, Carlyto invented that story about her being an mermaid while it wasn't true. Carlyto himself went to look for strong nkisi's during his Choc Stars-days and it started to have some returns him started to get scared and also rumors being speard everywhere that he contracted AIDS after sleeping with a known women who had that virus. Some people were thinking that Carlyto's story could be true, taking Reddy's song Etoile as proof because of him singing at some point "Maya na beleli ba koko na nga", not knowing that Maya is one of Reddy's daughters lol.