Ferre should take responsibility for his goofs. He needs to take serious his image and marketing, he's been acting too local for his stature. He needs to fire his marketing team. Ferre has few influential friends abroad unlike Fally and Koffi or Werra. Such things are not happening to Fally or Koffi because they are serious about their craft. Those are things which were happening to Gen. Defao in 90's and should not happen in 2021 to a leading artiste like Ferre. Not in a bad way but look at what Fally is doing currently, moving from one country to the other filling music halls but Ferre in stuck doing one or two shows in a month. There's no sympathy, Ferre needs to step up.
Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 10:45presenter jean marie molato speaks about what happened, i am not finding again the complete video like posted yesterday but he started saying that he was disappointed both for ferre and for the fans then he went to say that one factor which contributed massively to what happened is that in the organization of the second company there was the guy who brought him in ivory coast for the first time in 2008 and ferre's conditions were not fully respected but thanks to his frienship with some guys including him the presenter he went back home and this time around same things were happening and for him its a loss for both ferre and the promoters who all could have made money if they handled the things righthe cant blame ferre for refusing to perform and gives example of nigerian artists who wont even come to your country unless you have paid the whole money or will come but not step on stage without their complete money,no questions of wait after the concert or whateverand he went on to say some producers of ivory coast are not serious with the money issues and gives example of a concert of jb which he presented as he presented most concerts of rumba artists in ivory coast,and the producer ran away leaving jb to pay tickets to go back with his group,in 2013 fally gave a concert with a lot of hours late and fans even threw bottles and chairs to them presenters because fally refused to leave hotel until he got his money and they had to negotiate until he came later so for him in terms of professionalism he thinks ferre did the right thing but in terms of his image with fans when artists do that fans are left surprised and upset because unless artists take upon themselves to perform without having received the money(like he did in first concert being paid after concert and allegedly the other promoters wanted to pay him this week ) fans are the one who are thrown under the bus in conflicts between artists and promotersand he went on to say that promoters of the second show had issues already with some of the service providers the concert was meant to start at 6PM but until 8 9PM podium was not even totally set up with the instruments and of course when fans arrive and that 3 hours after things still have not kicked one bit people are disappointed and eventually leave and unlike some people saying that ferre only cancelled fearing not to fill the hall there was plenty of people coming and going when seeing that the concert was not startingThis discussion is unwarranted in 2021. Have professional handlers and set your standards at this point. This should only happen to Miel De Son or Deplick but it's not even happening to Innoss, why is it happening to Ferre Gola?
presenter jean marie molato speaks about what happened, i am not finding again the complete video like posted yesterday but he started saying that he was disappointed both for ferre and for the fans then he went to say that one factor which contributed massively to what happened is that in the organization of the second company there was the guy who brought him in ivory coast for the first time in 2008 and ferre's conditions were not fully respected but thanks to his frienship with some guys including him the presenter he went back home and this time around same things were happening and for him its a loss for both ferre and the promoters who all could have made money if they handled the things righthe cant blame ferre for refusing to perform and gives example of nigerian artists who wont even come to your country unless you have paid the whole money or will come but not step on stage without their complete money,no questions of wait after the concert or whateverand he went on to say some producers of ivory coast are not serious with the money issues and gives example of a concert of jb which he presented as he presented most concerts of rumba artists in ivory coast,and the producer ran away leaving jb to pay tickets to go back with his group,in 2013 fally gave a concert with a lot of hours late and fans even threw bottles and chairs to them presenters because fally refused to leave hotel until he got his money and they had to negotiate until he came later so for him in terms of professionalism he thinks ferre did the right thing but in terms of his image with fans when artists do that fans are left surprised and upset because unless artists take upon themselves to perform without having received the money(like he did in first concert being paid after concert and allegedly the other promoters wanted to pay him this week ) fans are the one who are thrown under the bus in conflicts between artists and promotersand he went on to say that promoters of the second show had issues already with some of the service providers the concert was meant to start at 6PM but until 8 9PM podium was not even totally set up with the instruments and of course when fans arrive and that 3 hours after things still have not kicked one bit people are disappointed and eventually leave and unlike some people saying that ferre only cancelled fearing not to fill the hall there was plenty of people coming and going when seeing that the concert was not starting
the contrast when he talks about one f and when he talks about another.... however i knew there would be two concerts more or less in the same place
Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 15:41the contrast when he talks about one f and when he talks about another.... however i knew there would be two concerts more or less in the same placeYou are good at reading people Archos. Anyone who is good can see and feel the envy, hate from these guys facial expression thank God Maman Marie and Sylia Aigle Jaune's prayers you keep Ferre safe. This is beyond normal its become a sect againt one but my man Ferre Gola still standing
Quote from: POLE POSTION on February 15, 2021, 16:35Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 15:41the contrast when he talks about one f and when he talks about another.... however i knew there would be two concerts more or less in the same placeYou are good at reading people Archos. Anyone who is good can see and feel the envy, hate from these guys facial expression thank God Maman Marie and Sylia Aigle Jaune's prayers you keep Ferre safe. This is beyond normal its become a sect againt one but my man Ferre Gola still standingYou lack objectivity in your analysis. You’re a fanatic - essentially the same as Mbuta Kiss and all of them.Ken Bilele made a strong case and how Ferre could improve. Archos did the same. Yet here you are spewing this nonsense that doesn’t take into consideration the reality of the matter. I’m a big fan of Ferre before you go on trying to discredit what I’m saying.
Quote from: Ken Bilele on February 15, 2021, 11:17Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 10:45presenter jean marie molato speaks about what happened, i am not finding again the complete video like posted yesterday but he started saying that he was disappointed both for ferre and for the fans then he went to say that one factor which contributed massively to what happened is that in the organization of the second company there was the guy who brought him in ivory coast for the first time in 2008 and ferre's conditions were not fully respected but thanks to his frienship with some guys including him the presenter he went back home and this time around same things were happening and for him its a loss for both ferre and the promoters who all could have made money if they handled the things righthe cant blame ferre for refusing to perform and gives example of nigerian artists who wont even come to your country unless you have paid the whole money or will come but not step on stage without their complete money,no questions of wait after the concert or whateverand he went on to say some producers of ivory coast are not serious with the money issues and gives example of a concert of jb which he presented as he presented most concerts of rumba artists in ivory coast,and the producer ran away leaving jb to pay tickets to go back with his group,in 2013 fally gave a concert with a lot of hours late and fans even threw bottles and chairs to them presenters because fally refused to leave hotel until he got his money and they had to negotiate until he came later so for him in terms of professionalism he thinks ferre did the right thing but in terms of his image with fans when artists do that fans are left surprised and upset because unless artists take upon themselves to perform without having received the money(like he did in first concert being paid after concert and allegedly the other promoters wanted to pay him this week ) fans are the one who are thrown under the bus in conflicts between artists and promotersand he went on to say that promoters of the second show had issues already with some of the service providers the concert was meant to start at 6PM but until 8 9PM podium was not even totally set up with the instruments and of course when fans arrive and that 3 hours after things still have not kicked one bit people are disappointed and eventually leave and unlike some people saying that ferre only cancelled fearing not to fill the hall there was plenty of people coming and going when seeing that the concert was not startingThis discussion is unwarranted in 2021. Have professional handlers and set your standards at this point. This should only happen to Miel De Son or Deplick but it's not even happening to Innoss, why is it happening to Ferre Gola?How old are you? All artist go through this why was Fally's 1st concert in Benin cancelled do not give us the corona bullshit because the 2nd concert went ahead kie kie calm down don't listen to the mpiaka farce they are trying to push out there which use to work 3 or more years but people have opened their eyes and are not buying the propaganda anymore. When a promoter does not pay no concert that is true artists do
Quote from: POLE POSTION on February 15, 2021, 12:01Quote from: Ken Bilele on February 15, 2021, 11:17Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 10:45presenter jean marie molato speaks about what happened, i am not finding again the complete video like posted yesterday but he started saying that he was disappointed both for ferre and for the fans then he went to say that one factor which contributed massively to what happened is that in the organization of the second company there was the guy who brought him in ivory coast for the first time in 2008 and ferre's conditions were not fully respected but thanks to his frienship with some guys including him the presenter he went back home and this time around same things were happening and for him its a loss for both ferre and the promoters who all could have made money if they handled the things righthe cant blame ferre for refusing to perform and gives example of nigerian artists who wont even come to your country unless you have paid the whole money or will come but not step on stage without their complete money,no questions of wait after the concert or whateverand he went on to say some producers of ivory coast are not serious with the money issues and gives example of a concert of jb which he presented as he presented most concerts of rumba artists in ivory coast,and the producer ran away leaving jb to pay tickets to go back with his group,in 2013 fally gave a concert with a lot of hours late and fans even threw bottles and chairs to them presenters because fally refused to leave hotel until he got his money and they had to negotiate until he came later so for him in terms of professionalism he thinks ferre did the right thing but in terms of his image with fans when artists do that fans are left surprised and upset because unless artists take upon themselves to perform without having received the money(like he did in first concert being paid after concert and allegedly the other promoters wanted to pay him this week ) fans are the one who are thrown under the bus in conflicts between artists and promotersand he went on to say that promoters of the second show had issues already with some of the service providers the concert was meant to start at 6PM but until 8 9PM podium was not even totally set up with the instruments and of course when fans arrive and that 3 hours after things still have not kicked one bit people are disappointed and eventually leave and unlike some people saying that ferre only cancelled fearing not to fill the hall there was plenty of people coming and going when seeing that the concert was not startingThis discussion is unwarranted in 2021. Have professional handlers and set your standards at this point. This should only happen to Miel De Son or Deplick but it's not even happening to Innoss, why is it happening to Ferre Gola?How old are you? All artist go through this why was Fally's 1st concert in Benin cancelled do not give us the corona bullshit because the 2nd concert went ahead kie kie calm down don't listen to the mpiaka farce they are trying to push out there which use to work 3 or more years but people have opened their eyes and are not buying the propaganda anymore. When a promoter does not pay no concert that is true artists doLol Boss, You are asking how old I am? With people like you Ferre is going to hurt all of us. Boss we need Ferre do succeed for the betterment of our music.
Quote from: Ken Bilele on February 16, 2021, 04:05Quote from: POLE POSTION on February 15, 2021, 12:01Quote from: Ken Bilele on February 15, 2021, 11:17Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 10:45presenter jean marie molato speaks about what happened, i am not finding again the complete video like posted yesterday but he started saying that he was disappointed both for ferre and for the fans then he went to say that one factor which contributed massively to what happened is that in the organization of the second company there was the guy who brought him in ivory coast for the first time in 2008 and ferre's conditions were not fully respected but thanks to his frienship with some guys including him the presenter he went back home and this time around same things were happening and for him its a loss for both ferre and the promoters who all could have made money if they handled the things righthe cant blame ferre for refusing to perform and gives example of nigerian artists who wont even come to your country unless you have paid the whole money or will come but not step on stage without their complete money,no questions of wait after the concert or whateverand he went on to say some producers of ivory coast are not serious with the money issues and gives example of a concert of jb which he presented as he presented most concerts of rumba artists in ivory coast,and the producer ran away leaving jb to pay tickets to go back with his group,in 2013 fally gave a concert with a lot of hours late and fans even threw bottles and chairs to them presenters because fally refused to leave hotel until he got his money and they had to negotiate until he came later so for him in terms of professionalism he thinks ferre did the right thing but in terms of his image with fans when artists do that fans are left surprised and upset because unless artists take upon themselves to perform without having received the money(like he did in first concert being paid after concert and allegedly the other promoters wanted to pay him this week ) fans are the one who are thrown under the bus in conflicts between artists and promotersand he went on to say that promoters of the second show had issues already with some of the service providers the concert was meant to start at 6PM but until 8 9PM podium was not even totally set up with the instruments and of course when fans arrive and that 3 hours after things still have not kicked one bit people are disappointed and eventually leave and unlike some people saying that ferre only cancelled fearing not to fill the hall there was plenty of people coming and going when seeing that the concert was not startingThis discussion is unwarranted in 2021. Have professional handlers and set your standards at this point. This should only happen to Miel De Son or Deplick but it's not even happening to Innoss, why is it happening to Ferre Gola?How old are you? All artist go through this why was Fally's 1st concert in Benin cancelled do not give us the corona bullshit because the 2nd concert went ahead kie kie calm down don't listen to the mpiaka farce they are trying to push out there which use to work 3 or more years but people have opened their eyes and are not buying the propaganda anymore. When a promoter does not pay no concert that is true artists doLol Boss, You are asking how old I am? With people like you Ferre is going to hurt all of us. Boss we need Ferre do succeed for the betterment of our music.This is why I ask how old you are when you say you want Ferre to succeed? Ferre is already successful otherwise he would not be fighting 4 groups at one, FVICTEAM (Fally), QL (Koffi), WMM (Werra) even though these 2 have given up as Ferre is too talented to erase from Congolese music unless you kill him kie kie and the also group is the media can you imagine the only artist since the beginning of Congolese music to face such clash for over 14 years the man is still standing.
Quote from: POLE POSTION on February 16, 2021, 08:30Quote from: Ken Bilele on February 16, 2021, 04:05Quote from: POLE POSTION on February 15, 2021, 12:01Quote from: Ken Bilele on February 15, 2021, 11:17Quote from: archos on February 15, 2021, 10:45presenter jean marie molato speaks about what happened, i am not finding again the complete video like posted yesterday but he started saying that he was disappointed both for ferre and for the fans then he went to say that one factor which contributed massively to what happened is that in the organization of the second company there was the guy who brought him in ivory coast for the first time in 2008 and ferre's conditions were not fully respected but thanks to his frienship with some guys including him the presenter he went back home and this time around same things were happening and for him its a loss for both ferre and the promoters who all could have made money if they handled the things righthe cant blame ferre for refusing to perform and gives example of nigerian artists who wont even come to your country unless you have paid the whole money or will come but not step on stage without their complete money,no questions of wait after the concert or whateverand he went on to say some producers of ivory coast are not serious with the money issues and gives example of a concert of jb which he presented as he presented most concerts of rumba artists in ivory coast,and the producer ran away leaving jb to pay tickets to go back with his group,in 2013 fally gave a concert with a lot of hours late and fans even threw bottles and chairs to them presenters because fally refused to leave hotel until he got his money and they had to negotiate until he came later so for him in terms of professionalism he thinks ferre did the right thing but in terms of his image with fans when artists do that fans are left surprised and upset because unless artists take upon themselves to perform without having received the money(like he did in first concert being paid after concert and allegedly the other promoters wanted to pay him this week ) fans are the one who are thrown under the bus in conflicts between artists and promotersand he went on to say that promoters of the second show had issues already with some of the service providers the concert was meant to start at 6PM but until 8 9PM podium was not even totally set up with the instruments and of course when fans arrive and that 3 hours after things still have not kicked one bit people are disappointed and eventually leave and unlike some people saying that ferre only cancelled fearing not to fill the hall there was plenty of people coming and going when seeing that the concert was not startingThis discussion is unwarranted in 2021. Have professional handlers and set your standards at this point. This should only happen to Miel De Son or Deplick but it's not even happening to Innoss, why is it happening to Ferre Gola?How old are you? All artist go through this why was Fally's 1st concert in Benin cancelled do not give us the corona bullshit because the 2nd concert went ahead kie kie calm down don't listen to the mpiaka farce they are trying to push out there which use to work 3 or more years but people have opened their eyes and are not buying the propaganda anymore. When a promoter does not pay no concert that is true artists doLol Boss, You are asking how old I am? With people like you Ferre is going to hurt all of us. Boss we need Ferre do succeed for the betterment of our music.This is why I ask how old you are when you say you want Ferre to succeed? Ferre is already successful otherwise he would not be fighting 4 groups at one, FVICTEAM (Fally), QL (Koffi), WMM (Werra) even though these 2 have given up as Ferre is too talented to erase from Congolese music unless you kill him kie kie and the also group is the media can you imagine the only artist since the beginning of Congolese music to face such clash for over 14 years the man is still standing.Truth be told, we should be asking that question on you but anyway let me preserve my energy, you're a troll.