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Congolese Music / Re: I MISS THE REAL TCHATCHO
« on: January 08, 2024, 04:05 »
you take v12 you add loi's sebenes and generiques instead of beevans rappa's parts you have a very very very difficult album to beat

Did Beevan Rappa not have enough time to find cries for V12, because he sounded like he was improvising. His animation was less cohesive, just a bit of cries from Wenge Musica's Pentagone and a lot of belting. I heard he tried his luck at Cultura in the late 90s...

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Congolese Music / Re: ATALAKU 3JOURS RETURNS TO VILLANOVA
« on: January 07, 2024, 10:05 »
lol i hope for him that it wont be as rude as the 12 on adada because of merveille,man sold all his house fourniture and gave clothes to family and friend only to be told at airport by their young brother fabro's brother yves who is the secretary "where are you going" yo oza na liste te

I'm surprised 3 Jours left in the first place, you know how many atalakus have attempted solo careers to no success? And I'm sure Fabro will bring him to Europe for concerts because his animation section is looking really weak lately
I mean, being humiliated, not being paid, being given limited space on a song and then no space when Showme came, why would have he stayed?


Only to come back, because solo career is very difficult to get started

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Congolese Music / Re: ATALAKU 3JOURS RETURNS TO VILLANOVA
« on: January 07, 2024, 09:34 »
lol i hope for him that it wont be as rude as the 12 on adada because of merveille,man sold all his house fourniture and gave clothes to family and friend only to be told at airport by their young brother fabro's brother yves who is the secretary "where are you going" yo oza na liste te

I'm surprised 3 Jours left in the first place, you know how many atalakus have attempted solo careers to no success? And I'm sure Fabro will bring him to Europe for concerts because his animation section is looking really weak lately

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number 2 of zangul is fiston boko who joined from maison mere back in 2001/2002 and had been loyal with all the splits
yeah i fully agree with you,they wanted to do the modern thing of every of them having their passport with one year of visa in their hands,who in his right state of mind as somebody who just saw "europe paradise" against all odds will have visa in their hands and say no no work first as much as it was a good thing it also damaged the group,
the guys returned to brazza then all of them went to paris again on their own,first time ever i think musicians leave like that having gone back to europe with their passport with visa  thats like fabregas did but 4 people at the same time
people had got used to the team of vision now they have had to completely renew the lineup around bastin dido dodi le talent and those guys(mogrosso,anouckha,poutine,nouzabraham)need time to build into the shoes of those who left including levyson but they dont have time for the good of the group they have to grow fast to get nh back to a fully charismatic lineup

Fiston Boko was in Maison Mere?! I actually understand why it didn't work out for him, because everyone's place was cemented since Solola Bien – he had an advantage on Adjani and Aimelia when it came to dancing (that's it).

Taka benefited from being Bill's friend and entering the group as a dancer first, then exploited the Les Marquis situation to graduate into singing. If I'm not mistaken, Prince d'Angola did the same thing...

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Congolese Music / Re: BOURO MPELA HAS WON HIS SPOT OF DEPUTY
« on: January 06, 2024, 17:48 »
Is it possible to balance music and politics?

I think so, he can limit concerts to two or three per month and still carry out his duties. You know with positions like these, there's a staff that does most of the work – he's just there to give authorization via signature, speak to press, or take meetings with important clientele.

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yes they probably teamed up with those who left extra musica zangul in the two tours of the recent years(the one before nh was created and the one after)

So whose "number two" in Zangul right now? I remember Levyson used to be that role publicly.

Also, I think NH should have done that system Zangul did for Papy Jah and Bastin back in 1998. They could have joined them to record Etat Major, but they had to wait. Maybe Sonor and Rama let those guys Willo, Bonbon Rouge, and FBI tour abroad too early in their career.

At the same time, how do you really tell who will return or run away from a European tour? But that question I'm sure you'll answer in that thread you're working on, thanks as always and Happy New Year's to everyone!!!

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Congolese Music / Re: BRIGADE THREATENS TO TAKE WERRA TO COURT
« on: January 05, 2024, 20:36 »
CNN spoke about this in his interview with Ado Yuhe, how is it only now Brigade found out he isn’t credited? Atalakus aren't credited for their work. For example guys like Mboshi and Somono realistically could be millionaires off of royalties by Loi alone with how many times that’s been played, sampled etc. The music industry is a dirty business especially Congolese genre.

If the lawsuit is successful, does that open the doors for musicians to collect payments from their songs from group albums ?

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After more than a decade of beef

Was the years long beef really due to leadership wars for Delta Force or did it eventually pass over, but they never got around to talking until now? I don't think they were mad at each other for decades long

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Congolese Music / Re: BOURO MPELA HAS WON HIS SPOT OF DEPUTY
« on: January 05, 2024, 04:26 »
Like title says,many musicians had gone for deputy role(bouro,werra,lacoste,jean goubald and co) and bouro is the first of them to have officially taken his role as a deputy and having his office already set

What does this job entail? Why is it so desired by musicians?

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fleury fleur confirms news that wazekwa fired the whole group and told them to look for a leader within them to continue the group without him and that he'd start another band  and that many members were even crying because they spent all their adult live there(some like indice arriving in the group not even being 15years old and now heading towards 40's)

But why? Why fire all of them just like that? Has this ever happened in music before

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Congolese Music / Re: NOUVEL HORIZON NEW EP IS OUT
« on: December 21, 2023, 05:37 »
HAHAHA we would have had "bana le monde entier nabengani sonor na ramatoulaye lol appelez moi le leader maximo enigma immorta le musicien le plus charismatique du monde" :D :D :D :D

Do you think Levyson regrets going solo? His first generique is still the highest viewed song on his entire channel. Aside from that, it's a couple excerpts of playbacks, bland rhumbas, and interviews.

I'm guessing he makes a little more money as a solo artist, because he doesn't split profit and donors with the group members like Ramatoulaye, Sonor, and others. But the pool of money is a lot less, because he doesn't carry the Extra Musica name which is still a strong brand.


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Congolese Music / Re: THE RULES OF CONGOLESE MUSIC
« on: December 19, 2023, 00:50 »
yes some of the questions have answers in some of my older topic but you just gave me there an idea of how to structure my topic,i think i will do for example rehearsal rules,concert rules,studio rules and so on

Also, could you give some stories of politics and conflicts that big bands had and were able to solve? We know often about the ones that split groups, but I've heard stories of donors, members, and even family members that have made interventions to keep a group from splitting or losing key members

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Congolese Music / Re: SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA DRUMMING
« on: December 10, 2023, 09:46 »
there is many now there is ndiaye which is the most used one,there is dm record studios,there is the palm beach studio which has been unused for a while because of witchcraf suspicion lol then there is a couple of studios owned by pastors where secular musicians still record, then there are their private studios

Is Bobongo Studios closed? You never mentioned it

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Congolese Music / Re: Werrason Fatshi Beton Campaign Song
« on: December 08, 2023, 16:40 »
Right like now he wants to create a sebene song but it’s for a campaign song smh… like why can’t the donors also ask for a sebene song smh.

From what I've seen, a lot of donors are on the older side – 40 years old and older. That age group is gravitates to rhumbas more than sebene songs, that's not to say they don't like to dance.

The younger generation prefer songs that copy the Afro-beats esthetic, so it's pressure from both sides of the generation to move away from the sound we miss.

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Jb was performing in the region of bandundu for the first time of his solo career,for the campaign of donor hugues eka mpulusi and had with him the two idiofa born guys didier lacoste and his cousin miel de son
is it me or lacoste's voice has gone downhill a lot

Could be lack of practice and health reasons. People forget that those who are generally healthy keep their voice, even if they don't perform as they used to like Aimelia Lias, the Bula brothers, Modogo, and Sam Tshintu.

It breaks my heart watching Alain Mpela these days, because even his speaking voice seems raspy and exhausted. I suspect he has diabetes given the flux in weight over the years.

Although it's interesting, Genta and Bill have similar voice of animation and have been doing it roughly the same amount of time, but Genta voice is dying...literally sounds like it's a fight to scream. While Bill sounds relatively the same. I'm guessing Genta smokes or drinks too much, but apparently Bill is a party guy too so idk...


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