He says his real career started when he joined Ferre's group. He said that a leader needs to know how to sing. And now Ferre's group is up in airplane but their plane is keep on going down. He also said that if the whole leaves Ferre will still be Ferre and made an example of how Ferre played a whole acoustic concert with out any singers and the album is selling like an actual album. He says there's a lot of old singers in Kinshasa who don't know how to sing at all. He said that it's Ferre who who formed him because he didn't know how to play rhumba but now he knows how to and outplaying all of the drummers in Congo.
