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I don't why but I have been having dreams of Fally Ipupa and Roga Roga singing together. It sounds so good in my ears. Also recently Roga Roga has been singing Fally's praises. Then not long ago, Fally Ipupa performed as guest in one of Roga Roga's show.

There is chemistry singing wise with these two briefly.
Also recently there was a interview with these two men.


Do you guys that Fally Ipupa and Roga Roga do a duet album. For me, it is a yes. What about you guys?


With Roga as a guitarist yes, but Roga would be embarassed in a duet with Fally immagine like Ferrè and Robinio doing a duet album, that would be Robinio's Carrer death, the same for Roga

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Lately I have been watching this video non stop from the older days of Extra Musica. I love the song also. Cri du Coeur from Oxygene. This song has great harmony with Hermann Ngassaki and Oxygene also. I notice that Roga Roga is at the front. It is clear to me, this was the sign that Roga Roga was coming to dominate like he is now.

By the way, why they let Roga dominate like that? Ok he cane with the name, but God rest his soul, Kassoul cane with the name of Nouvel Horizon yet he didn't have the same ego trip and dominancy seeking of Rogatien. I think that Roga Is really insecure that Is why he acts like that, I mean kicking singers and atalakus out (Doudou Copa, Kilambongo Who still to these days most people outside of the Congolese diaspora believed was the leader of Extra) trying to force himself on his supposed petit Sono's wifer, and those ego trip like "I made It in Life (lol no you made It on the back of others let's be clear) if you don't like being here go and do a group with your family.".. Like why does he have to act like that, from what he says he Is super Rich and Congo Brazza Is in his Hands, so why he Always wants to dominate people?

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since he considers himself the second big guy of maison mere along with ferre he said he became reluctant to sing from the moment baby ndombe and jdt who he considers himself far superior to and who he does not get along with participated in ferre's project,so for him despite ferre's approachs which he found nice he decided not to participate and he will be doing on his side "empire" with chay ngenge,fabregas,gaz fabillous and tries to get heritier too and fally
To be honest this Is not funny anymore. It Is sad, yes he had successo with Boniomai and his Medicamenti Song in Soud Sol butnhe needs to be a realist, I mean if he Is si big why African countries don't call him? He had a Greta potential with that Niekesse Generique with Iniesta, Parfum D'Hiver andn many other good dancers




But blew It, he could spend time promoting his songs in interviews but he Is too busy talking shit while neither Ferrè or whoever he disses reply

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Congolese Music / ARE SWAHILIS THE BEST NATURAL SINGERS?
« on: January 27, 2022, 23:01 »
Now I like to categorie Congo in our 4 Major.tribesI know that there are more but bare with me, and from the music standpoint I have cane to this conclusione, from a pure Musical standard meanimg laying down a Great Song with the instrumental and finding voices (not singing, but finding those voices and instruments Who can Fit the Song well) I have to Say my tribe BaKongo are the best for example

Werra bevande successful also because he automatically knows when a Song Is good or not for example despite people.hating Lobeso for his slow pace, I think no One can deny that Muselu his last crie in Wenge was not a masterpiece from the musical standpoint




At 4:15

I don't know Who came up with the dumb idea to lower the quality of the video and audio on the official YouTube video version to descourage Piratesf from taking the Song It ruined what could have been a Great success (Just for some cries, some other cries were not necessary) and also Bercy Mwana's crie Ya Ngiama Coaches




6:55
Here you can here another version of musselu which Is even Better
At 8:40
I can go on Forever but I will be brief
Then we got Mulubas that ti me are the best dancers, like It Is really really really rare to see a Muluba Who can't dance JB Is a Great example, Bill also till to this day he Is a great dancer but to be extra specifico check these videos from BaYuda Du Congo you can see that dance Is in their Blood








About Mongo people whom are like an ancient versione of BaNgala people, I think that of course since It Is their Language the lyricism


You can hear here Mimì Mongo in a beautiful Mongo Song God rest her soul





For Swahilis instead I think that they are the best Natural singers, taking Cappuccino out Who to be Fair never sang with his Natural voice but in that weird.imitatiom of Werra, I Still have to hear a Swahili Person Who can't sing, not only Congolese MuSwahilis, but also MuSwahilis from Kenya, Tanzania etc. For example Brigade, Is a really Great Singer Who could have made It as a Singer




2:44

But also in his song Zone Rouge the voice variation Is Crazy




Pepe Kalle




 





Remy Ongala, man his face look so much Eastern African Is crazy

And of.course my beloved Innoss





And also a lot of MuSwahilis from Outside like our believed Diamond from Tanzania



Shilole and Hasan Vocha from Tanzania





Nandy also from Tanzania

Do you guys avere with me or you have different opinions?

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Congolese Music / Re: YOUNG PEOPLE IN ZAIKO
« on: January 27, 2022, 22:30 »
They wont recruit old people, because they don't have the time, because of having a wife, children, etc. and alot of responsibilities. It would hard for them to do matolo and live like a gigolo with mutliple women. Even Bana OK had in its last days, mostly youg musicians.

Another reason is that Zaiko wanted to compete against Wenge. Like the way Papa Wemba made Nouvelle Ecriture and Emeneya later creating a new Victoria Eleison. After the flop of Sans Issue and Backline Lesson One, they felt that they needed from new musicians. That's why the recruited Papy Cocaine who had to incarnate the role of Tutu Kaludji. In the final  he battled against Celezino, but Celezino lost (maybe that's why he used to insult Nyoka Longo alot at some point 5/6 years ago on youtube). They also recruited Daniel 6000 as new solist, Deo Brondo, Willy Bula and Lassa Lacolyte as singers. The formula worked the next album Nous Y Sommes was a succes, Poison wasn't well promoted by JPS but it was a good album.

After Poison, they continued recruiting young musicians. But many of them didn't join because they wanted it, they joined because of them looking a way to get in Europe, those who worked in Zaiko's staff trying to influence them. Shulay for example was stuck in Kinshasa when joining along with Japonais Wenge Maison Mere without having papers. But he left Maison Mere very quickly when Didier Masela left to form his own band, he followed him but he realized that Masela wasn't serious so he left. He tried to join Wenge Tonya Tonya, but Adolphe's staff blocked him. So he didn't hadn't any choice then joining Zaiko. He never received papers and would make the same mistake again like 1998 by returning along with Lola Muana, Doudou Adoula and Nyoka Longo to Kinshasa in 2009 to re-start Zaiko. But he left along with Lola Muana the band quickly and from then he's stuck in Kinshasa. Lola Muana would return again in 2011 after the release of Bande Annonce.


 If you look to Bidjana's interviews you will see that he said that he never wanted to join Zaiko because of seeing it as "orchestre ya ba pere" and being scared to die because of its reputation to lose his bandmembers often. But him ending up by joining because of someone working in Zaiko's staff imposing him to do. Guys like Prince Bella and Strelli Mikobi came from Lofombo's Delta Force and hadn't any choice because Lofombo spent to join time in Europe and other members like John Scott and Ile de Camboge leaving Delta Force for Quartier Latin.

Lola Muana was forced by Andre Kimbuta to join Zaiko. Back at that time he had his own band and even released an album. But that album flopped. In 2005 he was contacted by influent WMM-staff members to join Wenge Maison Mere to punish Koffi for the way Koffi recruited Jordan Kusa. But Werrason indirectly didn't accept him when doing his test at Zamba Playa. After it Andre Kimbuta contacted him to join Zaiko. He refused, but Andre Kimbuta insisted he helped with recruiting some musicians and even gave some concerts with them for PPRD's campaign (Kabila's party). After that Kimbuta made for him and Oncle Bapius a visa to get in Europe to join the real Zaiko.

2003-2009 was the worst period of Zaiko. There was a point that Nyoka Longo even started to complain that most young members didn't know songs of Zaiko and not even loved the band, just being there for Europe. Zaiko was stuck in Europe  after that Nyoka Longo was arrested for the ngulu-affair. Nyoka Longo had a case with the Belgian Justice about ngulu's (even spent a time in prison) and was afraid to return back to Kinshasa after it. But his friend and big Zaiko-fanatic André Kimbuta kept insisting and even recreated in 2006 a band for him in Kinshasa called "Les Gunners de Zaiko" associating drummer Roukoulet who was left behind for Zenith 2002, bass-player Oncle Bapius who left Zaiko in 1998/99 and Lola Muana. They recruited young musicians in Kinshasa (the team of Vaugerard, Alino Vimba, Theo Mbala and Bijou Bass). It was the same team that welcomed them in Kinshasa when Nyoka Longo returned him in 2009 and recorded with him Bande Annonce.

Tshanda was the lead-guitarist that played 19 minutes de Ngwasuma. Tshanda used to play in Vox Dei which was a reglious band that used to copy Zaiko. When solist Volvo 840 stayed in Europe after the Poison-recordings. Tshanda joined, they recruited him because he already used to play that style. When Daniel 6000 left in Ireland after Zenith, Tshanda remained the only solist.
I see, thanks a lot for the explanation.

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Congolese Music / Re: Kas Kassongo "Le Roi Yaka" passed away
« on: January 27, 2022, 22:29 »
Kas Kassongo was known for promoting the music of the Yaka-tribe and the song Sisa Bidimbu dedicated to Joseph Kabila





Was he alsO in the video of Classement Sans Suite by Zaiko who was Lola Muana's song?




It feels so weird ti hear a Tshiluba Song from Zaiko, but It Is still a beautiful song

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Congolese Music / YOUNG PEOPLE IN ZAIKO
« on: January 27, 2022, 17:57 »
I am preparring something for my own artistico project and for this I have to review/study a lot of Congolese music and the first group I have studied Is Zaiko for obvious reasons, besides Franco and Tabù Ley I don't think that there Is a group who influenced Congolese musicians like Zaiko, even Koffi, Werra and many others BCBG too a lot have take their dances or cries with that said, why do young people like Vanguerard, the Bassist who Is now Is on Heritier if I am not mistaken, Lola Muana Who left the guigarist Who player in 19 Minutes De Ngwasuma join Zaiko? To take the msot recente example Vanguerard the guy with a weird voice Who dances really well, could.have gine ti BCBG, QL, or even Maison Mere since he has good dancing skills but why have he chosed Zaiko instead? To me that's weird being young (now he might be in his 40s or even 50s but he was young when he joined Zaiko) and joinikg Zaiko when there are a lot of banda available. What do you think Is the reasons why the join







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Congolese Music / Re: How is this song popular?
« on: January 27, 2022, 17:07 »
I am wandering how Goya Menor and Nektunez amapiano track is soooo popular in the US, but Congolese fail to gain popularity here.
Language barrier

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Congolese Music / Re: ALI MBONDA RETURNING TO MAISON MERE
« on: January 26, 2022, 18:59 »
I understand that Ali Mbonda loves Werrason a lot but he would be better off forming a band with maybe former Ferre Gola singer Rice Matadien.
TBH. Watching the interview, you can clearly see the desperation in the eyes of Ali Mbonda and I felt bad rossting him because you can see Kim Life Is slowly eating at him. Now thinking about It, he doesn't see ant other way in his life, because he Is too old to go.to Europe.and Congo Job market sucks so what hd have to do.

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Congolese Music / Re: ALI MBONDA RETURNING TO MAISON MERE
« on: January 26, 2022, 18:53 »
What happens to the current mbonda player?
Nothing lol, Returns are not seen well in Wenge, expect for Lacoste, It Is rare for a Wenge Maison Mere Who left to rejoice successfully, they did the same with ROI David he tried sto return but they made Life umcofortable untilhe left.

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Congolese Music / Re: Sec Bidens & Ado Yuhe
« on: January 25, 2022, 23:34 »
What's the problem with Ado Yuhe ? Does his wife not give him enough attention or what ?

The same Sec Bidens who indirectly said 3 years that he won't do an interview with Ado Yuhe and denigrating mukomboji and his questions, lol.
Bro. Kosila eza Pasi, when the Fally staff said that ADO Yuhe's interviews are for Batu Ba Sila I thought tthey were arrogant but now they are right. It was good when the purpose was to make history and to have something tangibile other then Just verbal spoken Word for archives but rn It Is Just people who are washed up, combined with ADO being a pervert askikg about dancers.

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Congolese Music / Re: ALI MBONDA RETURNING TO MAISON MERE
« on: January 25, 2022, 22:56 »
i knew you'd be the first comment lol and that you'd roast him
I mean bro, Is like being stabbed by your boss and then ask him to finish the job. I don't want to hear no Congolese journalist from now on Being mad at group members staying.in Europe. Being in a Congolese group of the old Leaders It Is not Life

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Congolese Music / Re: ALI MBONDA RETURNING TO MAISON MERE
« on: January 25, 2022, 18:21 »

Ok, the guy Is stupid, the same group who didn't help you when you were sick, who humiliated you by letting a small girl talk bad to you and who doesn't provide for you financially? Why the hell did he went back?

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Congolese Music / Re: NONO FUDJI KO TOKA GENERIQUE....
« on: January 25, 2022, 17:37 »
Here..

Premiered a few minutes ago...

I like it, Nono seemed stiff.


I don't like It It seems like a Ferrè generique the only part that I likes was the su the unthe middle but I don't know It didn't have outstanding momento, It Is sad ti see that he he has only 5k views despite the public liking It, I don't know if It Is the genre losing hisbaooeal or him being in BCBG which automatically doesn't give you the same spotlight Maison Mere guys have

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Congolese Music / Re: Protéger base ( Werrason )
« on: January 25, 2022, 16:17 »

Video not available... What have happened?

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