Author Topic: BCBG NEW RECRUIT: SINGER GEANTA KISS  (Read 663 times)

shamala on: August 11, 2025, 20:18

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CM PRINCE #1 on: August 11, 2025, 20:20

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BCBG is never beating the old men allegations because this guy looks like he’s from the Fally and Ferre generation.

archos #2 on: August 11, 2025, 20:32

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he is the guy who used to sing with alain mpela in concerts
bro the thing is that very young guys dont have the patience the bcbg system needs,they want to be untouchable first teamers in 6 months which is a major dream in bcbg lol so they come and then go to places like but na filet or ibrator because fabro is always poaching their best talents
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shamala #3 on: August 12, 2025, 03:04

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Is he being fast tracked for some reason as he is already appearing before JB comes on?
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archos #4 on: August 12, 2025, 03:06

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he is going down the traditional process,appearances before jb comes like the backups and the backups of the backups lol,but with him being belgian,best believe  he might suddenly go high on the pecking order as soon as there is trips

Manzambi94 #5 on: August 12, 2025, 05:03

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he is going down the traditional process,appearances before jb comes like the backups and the backups of the backups lol,but with him being belgian,best believe  he might suddenly go high on the pecking order as soon as there is trips
Why would a man with Belgian papers would want to ne a musician of a group in Congo at his old age?

Wenge1995 #6 on: August 12, 2025, 06:53

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he is going down the traditional process,appearances before jb comes like the backups and the backups of the backups lol,but with him being belgian,best believe  he might suddenly go high on the pecking order as soon as there is trips
Why would a man with Belgian papers would want to ne a musician of a group in Congo at his old age?

Probably to help family in Kinshasa. The money that's made from touring abroad and donors can build housing, pay tuition, and medical expenses for his relatives. Whenever he's tired of music, he can return to Belgium.

I suspect that's what motivated Bikou Le Brun, Richard Mukena, and JDL to join BCBG – aside from a love of music. JDL has been a member of BCBG since 1999, I think he's living a way better life than what he would have prior to being serious about music...cars, a nice home in Kinshasa, and I'm sure his family benefits by proximity.
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shamala #7 on: August 12, 2025, 10:34

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he is going down the traditional process,appearances before jb comes like the backups and the backups of the backups lol,but with him being belgian,best believe  he might suddenly go high on the pecking order as soon as there is trips
Why would a man with Belgian papers would want to ne a musician of a group in Congo at his old age?

Probably to help family in Kinshasa. The money that's made from touring abroad and donors can build housing, pay tuition, and medical expenses for his relatives. Whenever he's tired of music, he can return to Belgium.

I suspect that's what motivated Bikou Le Brun, Richard Mukena, and JDL to join BCBG – aside from a love of music. JDL has been a member of BCBG since 1999, I think he's living a way better life than what he would have prior to being serious about music...cars, a nice home in Kinshasa, and I'm sure his family benefits by proximity.

Tutu Caludji also returned to Kinshasa
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CM PRINCE #8 on: August 12, 2025, 15:10

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he is going down the traditional process,appearances before jb comes like the backups and the backups of the backups lol,but with him being belgian,best believe  he might suddenly go high on the pecking order as soon as there is trips
Why would a man with Belgian papers would want to ne a musician of a group in Congo at his old age?

Probably to help family in Kinshasa. The money that's made from touring abroad and donors can build housing, pay tuition, and medical expenses for his relatives. Whenever he's tired of music, he can return to Belgium.

I suspect that's what motivated Bikou Le Brun, Richard Mukena, and JDL to join BCBG – aside from a love of music. JDL has been a member of BCBG since 1999, I think he's living a way better life than what he would have prior to being serious about music...cars, a nice home in Kinshasa, and I'm sure his family benefits by proximity.
Lol it has nothing to do with helping family in Kinshasa. They don’t make money like that, they have better chance of working in Europe and sending money to their families in Kin.
Those three singers you mentioned only joined because of their love for music because they were professionals in Europe and they didn’t want to do normal jobs in Europe but you can only get so far as a musician in Europe so all joined BCBG because they already had a relationship with jb before BCBG. Jdl was like Jb’s bodyguard everytime he came to Europe, Bikou Le brun was Werra’s pire petit with Werra mentioning him in La Vérité and Jb mentioned Richard Mukena in La Vie.

archos #9 on: August 12, 2025, 17:34

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for me his case looks like fleurie fleur and junior wendo with cultura,both had a little name somewhere in the circle of music at their level,but wanted to establish themselves and it required moving to kin to join a group have vocals and songs,which is seen as more "serious music" than what they were doing before in europe doing interpretation or in the case of junior releasing an album inviting many proven artists without being proven himself
i think he'll just use bcbg as a stepping stone to then become a leader in kinshasa were you just have to go to mamie ilela or nathy and co and say i recruit at adress x you will always have aspiring musicians coming

Mfumu Vata #10 on: August 12, 2025, 23:43

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Yeah, many of European-based musicians didn't like to work and alot used to live behind women. In one of the interviews Shulay did with Papy Gene, he said proudbly that he never worked when he lived in Europe and that he would never to it. A real man should be ashamed about himself by saying that. I really regret that JB Mpiana's song 11ème Commandement never came out. That song would have been a huge realitycheck to guys living like that. However, I don't believe that it would change his bandmembers, because although living in Kinshasas they are still depedent from different women next to doing matolo, since that they don't get proper salary. 


Talking about Bikou Le Brun, he was about to start a band in Kinshasa to promote the album he had recorded with Maison Mère. He had already bought a set of instruments, but was convinced by JB's staff to join Wenge BCBG instead. They told him that it was a waste of time, that it would be impossible for him to succeed in Kinshasa and that he would be better off joining Wenge BCBG. He accepted their advice and the UK-based staff introduced him to JB when he came to mix TH in Paris. JB accepted him into the group and followed them in Kinshasa to get presented at FIKIN, as "ba professionel"  (as reference to Congolese soccer-players in Europe when they play next to local players, also known as "ba locaux" in the national selection) next to Richard Mukena and JDL who joined earlier. But people weren’t really convinced of their abilities as singers and started saying that those coming from Europe couldn’t sing (JF Ifonge being among the guys responsible for that reputation)



Richard Mukena was part of a band called FGBM based in Brussels that had singers like Christian Lema (who joined Nouvelle Ecriture later), Papy Sebene, Didier Lacoste (who would later change his name into Didier Anaconda, when joining Wenge Tonya Tonya from Europe), Shulay, Jus d'Ete Mulopwe (before rejoining Wenge El Paris in 1995 after Marie Paul giving him false hopes), etc. They would often do the first part of concerts, when Wenge Musica 4x4 would perform at La Madeleine, Concert Noble or Claridge when coming to Brussels in the 1990s. It was Shaguy Sharufa, who used to own the at that time famous nightclub/restaurant La Reference in Brussels, who told him that it was time for him to join a big band instead of waisting time in Europe. So she presented him to JB Mpiana to talk about him joining Wenge BCBG, both guys already knew each other and he got easily accepted.



JDL used to be Wenge El Paris' keyboard-player during their concerts in Zaire back in 1992 and became a session-player when being brought by them. He even played for Olivier Ngoma and at some point did animations for Aurlus Mabele as atalaku. Later on, he became like JB's bodyguard and also used to do groceries for him. He would join BCBG in 1999 during the Europe tour. In his first months,  hewas mostly appearing on the television to attack Koffi Olomidé and Wenge Maison Mère. When getting presented as new singer in public-concerts, he would mostly come with slogans instead of singing, being afraid that the public would boo him. JF Ifonge once said that, when he started his solo-career, he met JDL in a nightclub and JDL told him that he couldn't leave Wenge BCBG, because he doesn't know what do in life.



Although different singers of Europe joining bands like BCBG, Quartier Latin, Tonya Tonya, Maison Mère and Nouvelle Ecriture. Many of them didn't had papers. Most of them decided to stop their relationship with their wives/girlfriends and abandoned their children for the passion they had for music. Shulay for example, had difficulties to come back to Europe after leaving Maison Mère. He followed Didier Masela, when he came from Europe after leaving Werrason, but the experience wasn't great. He then tried to join Wenge Tonya Tonya through influence of people coming from Yolo, but it didn't work out until he ended up by joining Zaiko that brought him back to Europe. But instead of shorting his papers out during the 7 years stay in Europe, he just went to Kinshasa like that with Nyoka Longo to get stuck in Kinshasa for 15 years until Fally saving him by inviting him for one of his shows during the Europe-tour of last year.

There was a singer called Didier Mbole who decided to join Wenge Tonya Tonya when they came to Europe for LSC and Olympia, wanting to revive the SVP La Gamme-era of the past with Didier Lacoste and Shella Mputu. But it was a huge mistake. He didn't had papers got stuck in Kinshasa and never came back. After leaving Wenge Tonya Tonya a few years later, he kept thinking about the past, the problems he had, etc. which made him get strokes multiple times until getting paralyzed. He passed away 3 years ago.

Didier Anaconda got influenced by Adolphe Dominguez to go to Kinshasa with him, when backing him as dancer during playbacks-shows in Brussels and Paris with guys like Jeancy Ntela "Anti Gigolo" and co. His ex'wife wasn't happy with it and said to him, that he had to choose between her or Adolphe Dominguez. He choose for Adolphe, but he would just receive 1 vocal in Affaire Tonya Tonya. Didier was frustrated, due to the choice he made and risk he took by going to Kinshasa without having papers. Adolphe then calmed him down by promising him two songs in the coming album. However, Adolphe didn't respect the promise. This resulted in a fight during the studio-session of Mouna which led to Anaconda leaving the band

Manzambi94 #11 on: August 13, 2025, 10:05

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he is going down the traditional process,appearances before jb comes like the backups and the backups of the backups lol,but with him being belgian,best believe  he might suddenly go high on the pecking order as soon as there is trips
Why would a man with Belgian papers would want to ne a musician of a group in Congo at his old age?

Probably to help family in Kinshasa. The money that's made from touring abroad and donors can build housing, pay tuition, and medical expenses for his relatives. Whenever he's tired of music, he can return to Belgium.

I suspect that's what motivated Bikou Le Brun, Richard Mukena, and JDL to join BCBG – aside from a love of music. JDL has been a member of BCBG since 1999, I think he's living a way better life than what he would have prior to being serious about music...cars, a nice home in Kinshasa, and I'm sure his family benefits by proximity.
With all the messages fromcthe group member boe you understand why I am extmrely against a musician from Europe who is Congolese coming back to Kin or even for tbe first time to Kin to enter a band, as I have told you before, that isn't a life to be done, you are dependent as the guys said from Matolo, Mabangas and so on, taking also the considerazioni that most of the times you don't get paid a yearly salary and furthermore given BCBG rate, how long will it take for him to put a vocal on a song? Or do Mabangas? I am glad the guys said that most of the musicians from Europe who go back or go for the first time to Congo to join groups didn't want to do normale jobs, because even a work paying you 1500 Euro (at least this is in Italy I don't know how it is in other countries) a month will make give you more stability then to go to Congo to be first an employee with  o salary and second don't even know if you are gonna be a first teamer and not even knowing if you will have a song inside of the album, if you want the truth I think that most people who join bands back in Congo from Europe either have failed in life and / or even tho they have a life they let their passion for music blind them, I don't think I will last 5 minutes with a leader screaming at me or trying to belittle me cause I missed up a vocal I don't know how these guys find this acceptable when they really just had to work or if they haven't had papers sort papers out and live a comfortable life in Europe, and tbh I think you can make it in music in Europe just check at Gims, Naza, KeBlack, Kalash, Damso,  Youssoupha, BM, and to some extensive Stromae who always say he was heavily jnspired by Congolese music, but the only thing they have to understand is that you have to make music in a language that rhe local people can understand, there was this guy a French guy of Congolese origin who had/have a group called Quartier General, his name was Bouleman, despite having good music and also to some views he never reached mainstream success in Congolese households and history, if you go around and ask people who Bouleman is you will hardly get people to even know who you are talking about. Why? Cause this man made a Lingala speaking Congolese group in France and Congolese people from Kinshasa didn't take him seriously for the strong French accent and Congolese people in France prefer to listen either to Gospel Congolese artists or the Congolese Franco artist who only speak in French















shamala #12 on: August 13, 2025, 16:41

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bro the thing is that very young guys dont have the patience the bcbg system needs,they want to be untouchable first teamers in 6 months which is a major dream in bcbg lol so they come and then go to places like but na filet or ibrator because fabro is always poaching their best talents

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