Who's the real creator of Victoria Eleison Bipoli or Emeneya. Because they do each claim to be the 'Jesus'of Les 12 Apotres. The only thing that I know whats is true, is that the maquis was Bipoli's home in Ndjili (in that quarter they also made their first concert at christmas) and Bipoli came as last person in at the presentation on Tele Zaire. Bipoli could also be the person who did give the name Victoria Eleison, because it's in portugese language and Bipoli's roots comes from Angola (an ex'portugese colony)

its both,the idea came from kes',bipoli tchando and cartouche
kester motivated those guys to leave then bipoli came and they used hos house to prepare their first concert
then kester cartouche and bipoli went for kisi,the last person to go out would become the leader and it was bipoli who went out the last,but soon after kester took the power back and became the leader

Ooh so that's because of that he came with the idea to create Victoria Principal, because he didn't like Ememeya's succes ??

a month ago I saw an interview of Kester, where he said that Bipoli was jealous that he became the big star of the band and didn't understand how he did bought a house in Bandal. So he manipulated other bandmembers, saying that Emeneya was hiding money on his back for them. So he left Victoria with other bandmembers to form Victoria Principal, while Kester was in Europe.


In this interview it's like Bipoli he want to revelate about all bad things (withcraft,etc.) of Victoria Eleison, it's also like that he want to say indirectly that Tofla died because of witchcraft, while people says that he was a victim of tuberculosis.
People says that Tofla died of tuberculosis, but it's like that Bipoli want to say that he died of withcraft.

I found an interview of what did upload 2 years ago on youtube. Cartouche is talking about the creation of the band.
from 33:57

@Archos
I will go try to write about Victoria Eleison from 1982 till '88. Can you give little details inbox and if you know the reason of the end of Victoria's succes in 1988 with many departures of Joly,Djoudjou,Makolin to Choc Stars ??

djudju music, djoly and makolin left because victoria eleison were in kinshasa for too long not touring europe enough so they went to choc stars, if remember in 1990 that concert in palais du peuple was meant to be played in a bigger hall in europe but he wasn't able to tour and do that show kester that was one of his regrets