yeah i was discussing it yesterday after the match with a very hardcore maison mere fan lol(who even had like 10 scars on his body over maison mere ) and i told him i found it strange that it annoys them that much that ferre claims he was in 4X4 but they tolerate it from seguin when ferre has like 3 4 live appearances on wenge podiums while seguin was barely seen,i cant recall seeing him in any of the videos involving ferre in 4X4,and he was left with no words,and just said he'll respect ferre the day ferre comes to la zamba and kneels in front of werra for betraying him for that guy whose ethnic group eat dogs(referring to jb)