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Congolese Music / Re: GENERAL DEFAO NEW CLIP BIGA NSUMBU
« on: May 02, 2021, 06:43 »



Wow the guitar lick at 8:32 is really wonderful

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Congolese Music / THE BRAND OF FERRÉ
« on: May 01, 2021, 12:32 »
Ferré was born on the 3rd of March 1976
And is really well known in the Congolese scene to be regarded as one of the best singer from the Post Wenge Musica BCBG 4X4 Split shining as a singer in Werra's side of Wenge Musica: Maison Mère.
Despite him being one of the best singers in Congo and in Africa his move, after spending years with Wenge of going to Koffi to try to gain some money (he was broke after he left Les Marquis) and his pivotal role to create Les Marquis Maison Mère after leaving Wenge is what still to these days give Maison Mère fans (in their opinion) all the reason to mock and desrespect Ferré, with Ferré most of the time being desrespected not by QL Fans but by ex Members or fanatique of Wenge Maison Mère, while Fally is almost universally regarded as a genius, a great marketer the proper musical son of Koffi etc. Etc. Ferré is regarded as desrespectful towards Werra, a weed smoker, and a guy who struggle to reach the international fame of his rival Fally unlike Bill who is probably the ex member who insulted Werra the most without.any major consequences Ferré and one.of.his best friend Celeo usually get the short end of the stick because of their insults or banter against Werra. With that said Ferré brought the vocal range and ability for a Rhumba artist to really expand his voice plus unlike Fally, Werra and many others Ferré is the only artist if not one of the only who can manage to pull an incredible successful string of albums by putting the majority of songs in a Rhumba way with zero sebens and one or two générique
 A star in Africa , Ferré for some reason struggle to reach the international height that his voice would require,he have very low number of features and it is not really well known outside of Africa like Fally is,this is due to the incompetence of his marketing bureau who have always been a mess since his solo career started but also due to the reserved and laid back nature of Ferré who feels like he doesn't have anything to proof to the world and almost seems like he do music just for the passion and the craft of it and really don't care about making an impact on the Market sides, despite this fact Ferré have sold a lot of records in Europe and have s really loyal fan base who love him for his personality and his own personal style of Rhumba

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https://mbote.cd/but-na-filet-a-devoile-son-album-positionnement/posts/63343
How many générique ? Please don't tell me just one or two? And how many Sebenes? I hope they are not zero

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Congolese Music / Re: THE BRAND OF FALLY
« on: April 30, 2021, 22:32 »
One thing I have to hand to Fally Ipupa is that he knew how to market to International audiences when he got flack and he was persistent to this market and now it is working in his favor. Especially these last two years, more international artists have called and wanted to collaborate with Fally Ipupa. That is why Fally is on top right now.

I agree

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Congolese Music / Re: THE BRAND OF FALLY
« on: April 30, 2021, 22:32 »


I wanted to make this column/index book about what the various Congolese artists have brought into our music and I wanted to title what have they brought but I think the Brand of is a way better title with that said I will cover artists that I have followed closely or that I have known about in my lifetime so unfortunately no Franco, Tabu Let etc. but they are legends anyway, so I will start with
Fally
Ferré
Werra
Koffi
JB Mpiana
Wazekwa
Fabregas
Deplick
Héritier etc.
I will try to limit myself with successful leaders and if the index book get success I will focus even on the one with less success.

Good, now let's move on to the first story of this topic
Fally a nickname of Faustin Ipupa N'simba was born in December 14th 1977 and more then focusing on his life and the many rumours surrounding him (the most famous one being the one about him killing both his parents for fame) I want to focus on his brand and what he have brought into Congolese music in a Ndombolo scene dominated by the recent Success of A La Queue Leu Leu and the buzz surrounding the release of Témoignage to see if Werra could counter back Bill, Ferré, JDT and the many other artists who have left Wenge to form Les Marquis De Maison Mère by replacing them with artists who could have matched that level of stardom and by Koffi whom after releasing Effrakata, Affaire d'État and Monde Arabe couldn't expect that Fally his own pire petit could do something like preparing his solo album under his eyes. In this time dominated by Ndombolo and fast paced songs Fally came and shocked everybody by not only leaving Quartier Latin but also announcing his new and first album Droit Chemin with many collaborations from ex Quartier Latin members like Champion Djikapela, Apocalypse, and Modogo Abarambwa.
It was a risk and going solo not to form a group like Les Marquis did but going solo like Fally did was unheard of at the time and complice the fact that Koffi took Ferré to try to counter Werra and to have the best singers of Congo at the time in his group Fally decided to leave and release this album.

The success was weirdly immediate everybody were dancing songs like Prince Dr Southfork, Associé and especially Liputa which is now considered a classic among Rhumba lovers, for the first time since the Ndombolo fast paced era an album was more successful for the Rhumbas more then the Générique, but for Fally I think his brand was not that but the fact that he brought professionalism into the Congolese industry, it wasn't the classical Congolese artist who had a friend as an administrative and a weak marketing behind the disc no, Fally calculated every move and I think his brand was the one to be professional and never leave anything to the case he signed to Monsoh which at the time was one of the best producer in Africa and managed to make a successful album not only for Congo or Africa but even in Europe diasporaand many albums later now even managed to work with very famous french artists like Maître Gina, Aya Nakamura, Naza & KeBlack showing every artist in Congo that being professional is the way to go.
This was the first episode of The Brand Of tell me what you guys think in the comments about this series.

Only one mistake Fally was born on December 14th February 1977


Ahahah link me that video where he says it it is too funny

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Congolese Music / Re: THE BRAND OF FALLY
« on: April 30, 2021, 22:30 »
focusing on his life and the many rumours surrounding him (the most famous one being the one about him killing both his parents for fame)

Where did you hear that ???

I have said it is a rumour this means itight be true or not anyway if you have close people from Kin or relatives from there they will all tell you that story

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The Générique is astonishing tho as I have said before Ndombolo real Ndombolo is here we need to pay attention more to artists who are not Werra, Koffi etc. And expand our horizon with this I don't mean that Mbilia Bel is not a legend but usually Mbilia Bel is not the hot name you think about when you think about great génériques

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Congolese Music / Re: JORDAN KUSA...
« on: April 30, 2021, 19:15 »
I think he is still in Paris and I think he is working on his new album if I am not mistaken.
I see, he can work on it until he wants but if he will not clear his position his album is gonna be the biggest flop in Congolese music history

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Congolese Music / THE BRAND OF FALLY
« on: April 30, 2021, 16:44 »


I wanted to make this column/index book about what the various Congolese artists have brought into our music and I wanted to title what have they brought but I think the Brand of is a way better title with that said I will cover artists that I have followed closely or that I have known about in my lifetime so unfortunately no Franco, Tabu Let etc. but they are legends anyway, so I will start with
Fally
Ferré
Werra
Koffi
JB Mpiana
Wazekwa
Fabregas
Deplick
Héritier etc.
I will try to limit myself with successful leaders and if the index book get success I will focus even on the one with less success.

Good, now let's move on to the first story of this topic
Fally a nickname of Faustin Ipupa N'simba was born in December 14th 1977 and more then focusing on his life and the many rumours surrounding him (the most famous one being the one about him killing both his parents for fame) I want to focus on his brand and what he have brought into Congolese music in a Ndombolo scene dominated by the recent Success of A La Queue Leu Leu and the buzz surrounding the release of Témoignage to see if Werra could counter back Bill, Ferré, JDT and the many other artists who have left Wenge to form Les Marquis De Maison Mère by replacing them with artists who could have matched that level of stardom and by Koffi whom after releasing Effrakata, Affaire d'État and Monde Arabe couldn't expect that Fally his own pire petit could do something like preparing his solo album under his eyes. In this time dominated by Ndombolo and fast paced songs Fally came and shocked everybody by not only leaving Quartier Latin but also announcing his new and first album Droit Chemin with many collaborations from ex Quartier Latin members like Champion Djikapela, Apocalypse, and Modogo Abarambwa.
It was a risk and going solo not to form a group like Les Marquis did but going solo like Fally did was unheard of at the time and complice the fact that Koffi took Ferré to try to counter Werra and to have the best singers of Congo at the time in his group Fally decided to leave and release this album.

The success was weirdly immediate everybody were dancing songs like Prince Dr Southfork, Associé and especially Liputa which is now considered a classic among Rhumba lovers, for the first time since the Ndombolo fast paced era an album was more successful for the Rhumbas more then the Générique, but for Fally I think his brand was not that but the fact that he brought professionalism into the Congolese industry, it wasn't the classical Congolese artist who had a friend as an administrative and a weak marketing behind the disc no, Fally calculated every move and I think his brand was the one to be professional and never leave anything to the case he signed to Monsoh which at the time was one of the best producer in Africa and managed to make a successful album not only for Congo or Africa but even in Europe diasporaand many albums later now even managed to work with very famous french artists like Maître Gina, Aya Nakamura, Naza & KeBlack showing every artist in Congo that being professional is the way to go.
This was the first episode of The Brand Of tell me what you guys think in the comments about this series.

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Congolese Music / JORDAN KUSA...
« on: April 30, 2021, 16:18 »
Any update on his case and what do American justice have decided? Where does he lives now? And had the family of the girl in question pressed charges against him?

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We are so close to the end......

Magie Vs Solola Bien

Fois Cent Vs Likombe

Etage ya Suka Vs Kalayi Boeing (Remix)

Amen vs Nostalgie

Solola Bien

Likombe

Kalayi Boeing (Remix)

Nostalgie

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I agree with jv,(by the way jv seems like you dont rate heritier much)

I don't think is about not liking Heritier, simply said Heritier isn't that good of a singer, Werra saw him as his own son so he gave him all of that space from A La Queue Leu Leu until Ingeta but tbh there were way more better guys who deserves a chance then Héritier, Adjani, Taddeo, to some extent Miel too plus if it wasn't for Ferré, Aimelia, JDT, Kabose and all the first generation guys leaving tbh I really struggle to see Héritier's getting any space, and his limited ability are shown into his career beside BM, D de D and Abeti Faux who are great compositions more than great vocal performances by Heritier what songs he has on his new album who created the same success of the previous three or even Nostalgie or Confession Intime etc.?
Lol Heritier is a good singer, don’t do that.
He is not, he is not a faux chanteur either but he is not a good singer

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Congolese Music / Re: THIS GÉNÉRIQUE IS SO UNDERRATED
« on: April 30, 2021, 15:54 »
Well on this one I am guilty too, I don't like it at all, I think this is when the silly world music idea started growing. I hardly enjoy Showme

Wym? Anyway the song had potential but I think putting Lévitique (Cinq Chantier) and Robinio singing (which. Is a torture) really ruined what could have been a song

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I agree with jv,(by the way jv seems like you dont rate heritier much)

I don't think is about not liking Heritier, simply said Heritier isn't that good of a singer, Werra saw him as his own son so he gave him all of that space from A La Queue Leu Leu until Ingeta but tbh there were way more better guys who deserves a chance then Héritier, Adjani, Taddeo, to some extent Miel too plus if it wasn't for Ferré, Aimelia, JDT, Kabose and all the first generation guys leaving tbh I really struggle to see Héritier's getting any space, and his limited ability are shown into his career beside BM, D de D and Abeti Faux who are great compositions more than great vocal performances by Heritier what songs he has on his new album who created the same success of the previous three or even Nostalgie or Confession Intime etc.?

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Who sang best with Werrason?

Ferre Gola
Heritier
or
JB Mpiana

Why in your opinion
I am looking forward to your responses.

Héritier shouldn't be in this conversation, he is a great guy but to be honest he is really weak vocally, it seems like he forces a natural voice that is not his basically doing low effort while singing and making the song not enjoyable like in here (in the first three minutes)



With that said I have to say JB becuase Ferré in Wenge wasn't the singer he is now so to me JB because at the time was the better singer comparing him to Ferré now tbh Ferré sings better than JB but his voice is too powerful to just harmonize A Werra's song now I would see really well Café Rhoum as a good harmonizer next to Werra.

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