its actually the fourth time,if we are very strict,he went to maison mere when coming from karmapa before joining cultura but could not get a sniff obviously given how strong the team was,then he went again when he first left latino and then the fleche ingeta time and nowhe could have rejoined joss,i heard that david monsoh who is likely the producer/distributor of joss next album wanted the trio joss gesac gabbana,but joss and gabbana dont get along anymore since gabbana insulted him to the level of insulting his mother who he knows personally,gabbana is a little brother joss was taking by the hand to schoolso he had no choice it was either going solo for a non existent career or maison mere where kakol is there to help him